Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
For whatever all that's worth to anyone
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
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Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
"Take away the points they've allowed on turnovers,"
No offense but I find this hilarious!! Thats like saying take away all the broken promises the President has made he would be a good president!
Agreed. Thats like seeing a hot girl on the street with big tits a nice ass etc. and your buddy goes "She's ok...if she didnt have big tits and a nice ass she'd be a 5........WELL SHE DOES HAVE THEM! SO shes a 9!.........Vick is a turnover machine. Simple as that. I like Eagles though.
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Quote Originally Posted by Xcountry:
"Take away the points they've allowed on turnovers,"
No offense but I find this hilarious!! Thats like saying take away all the broken promises the President has made he would be a good president!
Agreed. Thats like seeing a hot girl on the street with big tits a nice ass etc. and your buddy goes "She's ok...if she didnt have big tits and a nice ass she'd be a 5........WELL SHE DOES HAVE THEM! SO shes a 9!.........Vick is a turnover machine. Simple as that. I like Eagles though.
Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
For whatever all that's worth to anyone
Finally, someone else in this thread stating FACTS. Thanks PB
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:
Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
For whatever all that's worth to anyone
Finally, someone else in this thread stating FACTS. Thanks PB
Agreed. Thats like seeing a hot girl on the street with big tits a nice ass etc. and your buddy goes "She's ok...if she didnt have big tits and a nice ass she'd be a 5........WELL SHE DOES HAVE THEM! SO shes a 9!.........Vick is a turnover machine. Simple as that. I like Eagles though.
Horrible analogy! The girl will have those same tits and ass when she walks out her front door Sunday afternoon. Meanwhile the Eagles can correct their mistakes on offense and go out and have a turnover free afternoon, which as the poster is trying to convey, changes everything because teams have not successfully been driving the ball on the Eagles defense.
A body part is permanent, A mistake can often easily be corrected through focus and attention to detail.
Why is it hard for people to grasp what he was trying to say? Yes Vick could turn it over again 3 or 4 times, but they have been working on protecting the ball better the last 2 weeks and if they can, then their stout defense will not have to take the field constantly protecting their own red zone and their offense will not be handing the other team scores. It would change everything.
Can they protect it better remains to be seen, but it is not a certainty they will turn it over either.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
Agreed. Thats like seeing a hot girl on the street with big tits a nice ass etc. and your buddy goes "She's ok...if she didnt have big tits and a nice ass she'd be a 5........WELL SHE DOES HAVE THEM! SO shes a 9!.........Vick is a turnover machine. Simple as that. I like Eagles though.
Horrible analogy! The girl will have those same tits and ass when she walks out her front door Sunday afternoon. Meanwhile the Eagles can correct their mistakes on offense and go out and have a turnover free afternoon, which as the poster is trying to convey, changes everything because teams have not successfully been driving the ball on the Eagles defense.
A body part is permanent, A mistake can often easily be corrected through focus and attention to detail.
Why is it hard for people to grasp what he was trying to say? Yes Vick could turn it over again 3 or 4 times, but they have been working on protecting the ball better the last 2 weeks and if they can, then their stout defense will not have to take the field constantly protecting their own red zone and their offense will not be handing the other team scores. It would change everything.
Can they protect it better remains to be seen, but it is not a certainty they will turn it over either.
You and all the public JOE knows this. Don't you think VEGAS well aware of this. I say this is the easiest win this week ATL + whatever. See VEGAS knows public are very aware of this trend with Reid. Falcons know as well so don't you think they will have game plan to make sure this trend won't continue?? And Vegas know public have short term memory. They just saw ATL barely beat OAK at home (my oh my now ATL on the road etc) while PHI let a game slip at home with poor defense down the stretch. If DET can win in the 4th qrt against this defense, I will take ATL offense to close out game in similar fashion. If I take PHI, I would bet them 1st half. Until they show me they can win close game, I will take ATL in a close game any day.
then why is 'public joe' betting on ATL? you do realize joe public is on ATL more than the eagles, i hope. The line dropped to -1 when the line started at -2.5
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Quote Originally Posted by seattleseahawks:
You and all the public JOE knows this. Don't you think VEGAS well aware of this. I say this is the easiest win this week ATL + whatever. See VEGAS knows public are very aware of this trend with Reid. Falcons know as well so don't you think they will have game plan to make sure this trend won't continue?? And Vegas know public have short term memory. They just saw ATL barely beat OAK at home (my oh my now ATL on the road etc) while PHI let a game slip at home with poor defense down the stretch. If DET can win in the 4th qrt against this defense, I will take ATL offense to close out game in similar fashion. If I take PHI, I would bet them 1st half. Until they show me they can win close game, I will take ATL in a close game any day.
then why is 'public joe' betting on ATL? you do realize joe public is on ATL more than the eagles, i hope. The line dropped to -1 when the line started at -2.5
Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
For whatever all that's worth to anyone
This would mean more if their records were the same. Yes Atlanta has had an easier schedule but they are 6-0. Eagles 3 wins were by 5 points. They could easily be 0-6 right now.
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:
Combined record for Falcons opponents is 13-24 and not one single opponent with a winning record. Three of their wins came against the Chiefs, Panthers and Raiders. Three of the worst teams in the league and they beat the last two by the skin of their teeth with some help from lady luck at the end.
Combined record for Eagles opponents is 20-20 with three of their opponents having winning records, the two teams with the best records the Eagles played were the Ravens at 5-2 and Giants at 5-2 and the Eagles won both games so both those teams only lost one game aside from getting beat by the Eagles. Now the Eagles face another team with a top winning record.
Vick has spent the last two weeks sleeping and eating with a football in his hand, he has taken it everywhere with as a self training method for hanging onto the football.
For whatever all that's worth to anyone
This would mean more if their records were the same. Yes Atlanta has had an easier schedule but they are 6-0. Eagles 3 wins were by 5 points. They could easily be 0-6 right now.
I live in Eagez territory, but am Redskins fan. Yes, DC got fired because they were 3-3 and they needed to let someone go. But their reason was legitimate,2 4th qtr meltdowns. Otherwise, except for their lack of sacks, they're a very gpod defense. And Reid's teams are good for a loss going into a bye, and a win coming out. That said:
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I live in Eagez territory, but am Redskins fan. Yes, DC got fired because they were 3-3 and they needed to let someone go. But their reason was legitimate,2 4th qtr meltdowns. Otherwise, except for their lack of sacks, they're a very gpod defense. And Reid's teams are good for a loss going into a bye, and a win coming out. That said:
you know the great thing about perfect trends? they often stay perfect, did anyone remember the BYU game against notre dame with 2 perfect trends? guess what, BYU covered easily. Don't take this "13-0 after a bye" trend lightly. I agree in my head the falcons should win, but sometimes you have to go with the trends.
Cardinal Sin to bet against a streak to end!
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Quote Originally Posted by BradyWearsUGGZ:
you know the great thing about perfect trends? they often stay perfect, did anyone remember the BYU game against notre dame with 2 perfect trends? guess what, BYU covered easily. Don't take this "13-0 after a bye" trend lightly. I agree in my head the falcons should win, but sometimes you have to go with the trends.
Tell me how it could possibly be the defenses fault when Vick fumbles and they return it for a TD. I'm not saying take away every point that was scored in the result of turning over the ball, the opposing offense marching down the field and scoring, I'm saying literally the points allowed off fumble/interception return for TD's. Honestly, there's no point in bothering with the trolls that will be gone sooner than later. Good luck on whatever your wagers are
I don't think people can read in here. I really don't.
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Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:
Tell me how it could possibly be the defenses fault when Vick fumbles and they return it for a TD. I'm not saying take away every point that was scored in the result of turning over the ball, the opposing offense marching down the field and scoring, I'm saying literally the points allowed off fumble/interception return for TD's. Honestly, there's no point in bothering with the trolls that will be gone sooner than later. Good luck on whatever your wagers are
I don't think people can read in here. I really don't.
atlanta will struggle this game . philly's pass rush is the x-factor . falcons only a threat when making deep plays ..cant make deep plays if you have no time to make the play develop smell me ?
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atlanta will struggle this game . philly's pass rush is the x-factor . falcons only a threat when making deep plays ..cant make deep plays if you have no time to make the play develop smell me ?
The Eagles 3 wins may be by 5 total points but 2 of thier losses were by 5 total points as well. In those 2 games the offense took the lead late and the defense needed one stop and blew it. They could easily be 5-1 just as the previous arguement for 0-6.
The problem with this team, or at least betting on them, is that you cannot predict turnovers. At this point, with Vick you can assume. But I feel like they set lines based on the potential of this team. When Vick doesnt turn the ball over they win. When he does they can still win, just not as often and usually by just a hair. But it typically sets up for a loss.
Who shows up tomorrow is anybody's guess. Hopefully Reid helps them out and runs the ball with the crap weather. I can't bet on this team anymore. But I wouldn't bet against them this week either.
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The Eagles 3 wins may be by 5 total points but 2 of thier losses were by 5 total points as well. In those 2 games the offense took the lead late and the defense needed one stop and blew it. They could easily be 5-1 just as the previous arguement for 0-6.
The problem with this team, or at least betting on them, is that you cannot predict turnovers. At this point, with Vick you can assume. But I feel like they set lines based on the potential of this team. When Vick doesnt turn the ball over they win. When he does they can still win, just not as often and usually by just a hair. But it typically sets up for a loss.
Who shows up tomorrow is anybody's guess. Hopefully Reid helps them out and runs the ball with the crap weather. I can't bet on this team anymore. But I wouldn't bet against them this week either.
I think the Falcons are a 12-4 type of team, the Eagles a 9-7 type of team. Home field helps the Eagles close that gap, but they should not have been favoured to win here.
If Philly wins the turnover battle, I think they can still win this game.
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I think the Falcons are a 12-4 type of team, the Eagles a 9-7 type of team. Home field helps the Eagles close that gap, but they should not have been favoured to win here.
If Philly wins the turnover battle, I think they can still win this game.
the prob w/you philly jackoffs is that a team can never correct turnover problems during the season. and it has nothing to do with 'focus' or any bullshit like that.
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the prob w/you philly jackoffs is that a team can never correct turnover problems during the season. and it has nothing to do with 'focus' or any bullshit like that.
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