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Given the Pats have been in 8 SB's w/ Brady and Belichick we have A LOT of data to work with.

8 SB's 5-3 SU, 2-6 ATS, As favorites 1-5 ATS

 

2001 LAR -14 Cover 20-17

2003 NEP -7 No Cover 32-29

2004 NEP -7 No Cover 24-21

2007 NEP -12.5 No Cover 14-17

2011 NEP -3 No Cover 17-21 

2014 PK Cover 28-24

2016 NEP -3 Cover 34-28

2017 NEP -4.5 No Cover 33-41

 

NEP Average points scored = 25.25

NEP Average points given up = 24.75

 

2018 Season NEP Average points scored = 27.25

2018 Season LAR Average points given up = 24

2018 Season LAR Average points scored = 33 

 

2018 Season Rams losses margin: 7, 9, 10 points

NEP SB's: Smallest margin of victory = 3 (i.e. point spread should not be a factor, if you are betting Money Line, you are betting scared)

 

If you look at the more recent SB's over the past 7-11 years, Patriots have gone 2-3 and in 4 out of 5 of those matchups have put up fewer rushing yards on the year then their opponent, 1 of their two wins was due to a fluke defensive play and the other win was due to an utter collapse by their Opponent (Falcons).

 

2018 Rams 3rd in Rushing yards

NEP 5th

 

2017 Eagles 3rd in Rushing yards

NEP 10th - Eagles won

 

2016 Atlanta 5th in Rushing yards

NEP 7th - NEP won with dramatic come from behind victory (Falcons collapsed)

 

2014 Seattle 1st in Rushing yards

NEP 18th - Patriots won with dramatic end of game Goal Line defensive play

 

2011 Giants 32nd in Rushing yards

NEP 20th - Giants win

 

2007 Giants 4th in Rushing yards

NEP 13th - Giants win

 

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2004 Eagles 24th in Rushing yards

NEP 7th - NEP won

 

2003 Panthers 7th in Rushing yards

NEP 27th - NEP won

 

2001 Rams 5th in Rushing yards

NEP 13th - NEP won

 

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Yes Patriots have more experience in the Super Bowl, but in recent history they have not exactly dominated it.

 

Patriots 28 points (and that is being generous)

Rams more than 28 points (does it matter how many more?)

Goff MVP (better odds than ML)

 
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When pats are -3   favorites or less they are 3-1 ATS in SB.

They only lose ATS with a higher line. 
In games they win with as a 3 fav or less they are 3-0 ATS
 
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Great info thanks
 
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“If you are betting ML, you are betting scared”.....these are your words? Haaaaa. So the Ravens ML -145 and Bears ML -260 you played in the postseason? Explain those Chief. You disappeared after that. You love calling everybody else out who plays ML yet you play em at -260. It is a joke reading your nonsense. Always trying to steer people in the wrong direction. You b@tch that I don’t pick a side yet where is your pick in this game hypocrit? Answer the question. Are you going to reaffirm your words of the Patriots just not having it anymore as they lost you your phantom OVER TOTAL ON WINS? Or are you jumping back on the Patriots wagon? If not you’d definitely have to buy a new Velcro hat to match your shoes. Man oh man....I could roast your hypocrit, fake persona all day but as I type, it’s too easy. Question: If one is getting the Patriots ML at -130 (half of what you paid for on the Bears ML by the way) why take the Patriots at -2.5 (-120)? You say it’s a scared play to take the ML, I say it’s smart if you like the Patriots. Get it. Got it. Good. Couid you be so kind to grace is with your fake spreadsheet and tickets? The smart ones on here know you are down prolly 40-50 units. I lost count after you didn’t win ONE game for three weeks. Facts. Regroup, get some motivation from your roommate and come correct. That’s all I got for ya. I’ll be back after the game chief to update my units and record. Until then....you better not pick the Patriots because of you do, you’d be plagiarizing yours truly, right? Dope.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

When pats are -3   favorites or less they are 3-1 ATS in SB.They only lose ATS with a higher line. In games they win with as a 3 fav or less they are 3-0 ATS

NO.

These are the 8 Super Bowls, they only covered once when favorites.

2001 LAR -14 Cover 20-17

2003 NEP -7 No Cover 32-29

2004 NEP -7 No Cover 24-21

2007 NEP -12.5 No Cover 14-17

2011 NEP -3 No Cover 17-21 

2014 PK Cover 28-24

2016 NEP -3 Cover 34-28

2017 NEP -4.5 No Cover 33-41

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

“If you are betting ML, you are betting scared”....

Glad you chimed in, yes that quote was directed at your incompetence.  Glad you solved that riddle, not responding to the rest of your wall as trash, because as usual it is worthless.

 
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 remember when the patriots played the seahawks  in the superbowl new england started out opening line as a underdog then moved to a favorite. same situation this years superbowl.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

This thread is

Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.


So sad you continue to scrounge. Tell me....are you the type when shaking someone’s hand, you look down? You fail to make eye contact? Let’s try this: Where’s your spreadsheet? How bout the units you are down? Mr. Transparency...remember? That was short lived huh? Have you even reached double digit wins this year? It’s a serious question. At 48 years, with a room mate, how much does your tout service pay you? Is it salary or commission? When you post your fake tickets, do you feel guilty? Whatever it takes to pay your share of the bunk bed huh? It is sooooooo sad that you TRY so hard to make believe on here. I’ve never said this but I feel it’s necessary: I truly feel sorry for you. I mean that. In my time in this site, I don’t think I’ve ever come across such a fake, lost soul who tries so hard to be relevant. You will never take ownership nor will you come clean about what you are all about but hey, some things just don’t register for some. That’s ok. You fill the quota. I should ask coverscap to put out a thread of LEAST SUCCESSFUL on this site. They’ve already put out the top 5 in each category.....have you checked that out? Feel free to pudding pants. Cheers
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

NO.

These are the 8 Super Bowls, they only covered once when favorites.

2001 LAR -14 Cover 20-17

2003 NEP -7 No Cover 32-29

2004 NEP -7 No Cover 24-21

2007 NEP -12.5 No Cover 14-17

2011 NEP -3 No Cover 17-21 

2014 PK Cover 28-24

2016 NEP -3 Cover 34-28

2017 NEP -4.5 No Cover 33-41


Yes when pats are 3 point favorites or less they are 3-1 ATS. 

The pats other ATS losses came with a bigger favorite then 4 points.ok

If pats win they are 3-0 ATS with a line 3 favorite or less.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

NO. These are the 8 Super Bowls, they only covered once when favorites. 2001 LAR -14 Cover 20-17 2003 NEP -7 No Cover 32-29 2004 NEP -7 No Cover 24-21 2007 NEP -12.5 No Cover 14-17 2011 NEP -3 No Cover 17-21  2014 PK Cover 28-24 2016 NEP -3 Cover 34-28 2017 NEP -4.5 No Cover 33-41
Yes when pats are 3 point favorites or less they are 3-1 ATS. The pats other ATS losses came with a bigger favorite then 4 points.okIf pats win they are 3-0 ATS with a line 3 favorite or less.
The title of this thread has nothing to do with when the Patriots are under dogs so why even bother interjecting your retarded ideas?  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by pdouble:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

This thread is
Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.
last year you lost you behind on the pats ... now when you could actually get paid , youre going with the rams ..., that’s why clowns like you only come out a couple weeks a year

"only come out a couple weeks a year "

I am guessing you have been asleep the entire season.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.
So sad you continue to scrounge. Tell me....are you the type when shaking someone’s hand, you look down? You fail to make eye contact? Let’s try this: Where’s your spreadsheet? How bout the units you are down? Mr. Transparency...remember? That was short lived huh? Have you even reached double digit wins this year? It’s a serious question. At 48 years, with a room mate, how much does your tout service pay you? Is it salary or commission? When you post your fake tickets, do you feel guilty? Whatever it takes to pay your share of the bunk bed huh? It is sooooooo sad that you TRY so hard to make believe on here. I’ve never said this but I feel it’s necessary: I truly feel sorry for you. I mean that. In my time in this site, I don’t think I’ve ever come across such a fake, lost soul who tries so hard to be relevant. You will never take ownership nor will you come clean about what you are all about but hey, some things just don’t register for some. That’s ok. You fill the quota. I should ask coverscap to put out a thread of LEAST SUCCESSFUL on this site. They’ve already put out the top 5 in each category.....have you checked that out? Feel free to pudding pants. Cheers

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I stopped reading at "fake tickets", it really kills you that I am more successful at this then you are after all that work you put in plagiarizing other people's picks to take credit.  I bet your wife doesn't even let you have a gambling account since your meager paycheck has to go towards paying for junior's education and you only do it for the fake internet points.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.
So sad you continue to scrounge. Tell me....are you the type when shaking someone’s hand, you look down? You fail to make eye contact? Let’s try this: Where’s your spreadsheet? How bout the units you are down? Mr. Transparency...remember? That was short lived huh? Have you even reached double digit wins this year? It’s a serious question. At 48 years, with a room mate, how much does your tout service pay you? Is it salary or commission? When you post your fake tickets, do you feel guilty? Whatever it takes to pay your share of the bunk bed huh? It is sooooooo sad that you TRY so hard to make believe on here. I’ve never said this but I feel it’s necessary: I truly feel sorry for you. I mean that. In my time in this site, I don’t think I’ve ever come across such a fake, lost soul who tries so hard to be relevant. You will never take ownership nor will you come clean about what you are all about but hey, some things just don’t register for some. That’s ok. You fill the quota. I should ask coverscap to put out a thread of LEAST SUCCESSFUL on this site. They’ve already put out the top 5 in each category.....have you checked that out? Feel free to pudding pants. Cheers
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

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agreed.. such an irrelevant post .. who cares that they didn’t cover -6, -7, -7, -13 most irrelevant thing ever the spread everyone has is New England -1 to -2.5 ... they need to win by a fg.. they don’t need to cover a td.. a New England Super Bowl is typically 3 or 4 point wins for the side close hard fought games whoever executed and makes the game changing play wins..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by pdouble:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

This thread is
Says the guy that can't even break even after getting outted for stealing LC's picks every week of the season.
last year you lost you behind on the pats ... now when you could actually get paid , youre going with the rams ..., that’s why clowns like you only come out a couple weeks a year

Well said !

 
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Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:



It’s the OG Clown!!!!! Haaaaaaaa
 
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Quote Originally Posted by supermanbets:

Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

This thread is
agreed.. such an irrelevant post .. who cares that they didn’t cover -6, -7, -7, -13 most irrelevant thing ever the spread everyone has is New England -1 to -2.5 ... they need to win by a fg.. they don’t need to cover a td.. a New England Super Bowl is typically 3 or 4 point wins for the side close hard fought games whoever executed and makes the game changing play wins..

If you had half a brain you would realize when Rams lose they do not lose by < 2.5 points, so anyone backing the Patriots should not have to resort to paying the high premium on the Money Line unless they are notoriously bad cappers like Achilles who has shown he is a losing gambler when not plagiarizing picks off of League Capper's weekly threads.

 
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Hey GOAT_12.....go check out the covers cap thread. Go ahead. The facts are there. If covers came up with a TOP TEN FADES/FAKES you’d be sitting at the top Chief.

How did the Ravens ML and Bears ML treat you a few week ago. I mean we didn’t see ya for a while afterwards. To the guy who plays -260ML, loses almost 30 units in a week and to a guy who has fake spreadsheets and fake tickets on this site. HUUUUUUGE CLOWN THE GOAT_12 is. Should we all chip in and buy a new bunk bed for the 48 year old and his roommate. These are facts by the way. 48, roommate, doctors up spreadsheets, only plays LARGE MONEYLINES and hasn’t won’t double digits all year. Facts. I hit at 60% for 196 plays yet I can’t cap? Up over 44 units this year (if you only knew what one unit represented)....hint....it’s not silver and round like the units you play with and have won 12 times the plays you have.....Haaaaaa!!!!!! Keep scrounging clownshoe. You look like a fool AGAIN. 
 
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Plagiarizing picks? You had LCs Ravens at -145 ML in the wildcard round after he posted his. Fact. Who did I have? Not the Ravens.

YOU LOST YOUR A$$ AGAIN IN MONOPOLY MONEY that week and your formula of poisoning this forum was the same then that it is now. You had the bears -260ML too...........let that sink in to how much you lost that week. Yet you continue to point fingers. Tell me is it hard pointing when the clown nose gets in the way? Is it hard walking in real life with oversized clown shoes? At 48, is it hard going down the ladder of your bunk bed when your might mouse alarm clock goes off at 11AM?  It must be tough being you man. 
 
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The only clown in this thread is Achilles who cannot man up for plagiarizing picks.  Once I pointed it out, your win rate went in the toilet <  46%, add in the vig for normal lines -110, and the vig for buying points and the vig for picking high leverage money lines and you came across as a complete joke and the entire community here knows it.  Maybe next time you track units and ROI like a professional instead of some rookie making $5 bets to keep your wife happy. 

Keep embarrassing yourself by attacking me, I find it HIGHLY amusing.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

The only clown in this thread is Achilles who cannot man up for plagiarizing picks.  Once I pointed it out, your win rate went in the toilet <  46%, add in the vig for normal lines -110, and the vig for buying points and the vig for picking high leverage money lines and you came across as a complete joke and the entire community here knows it.  Maybe next time you track units and ROI like a professional instead of some rookie making $5 bets to keep your wife happy. 

Keep embarrassing yourself by attacking me, I find it HIGHLY amusing.


I really wanna see your TRANSPARENCY spreadsheet. Can you share that with us? Please?????? I find it comical when you peel it all back that you rest upon being a hypocrit. This is your game. You try soooo hard to find something, anything to get under people’s skin. Chief, I could do this all day but you what’s sad is you continually denounce FACTS.

1. You call me a plagiarizer so let me get this straight: everyone who has a similar pick throughout the week is a plagiarizer? Are we 3 years old? 

2. You factually lost almost 30 units in one week and went over two weeks at the end of the year without winning ONE wager.

3. You print fake tickets. See this is the big one here. How pathetic is that? I could pull winning lotto tickets and say I win ever week huh? Pathetic attempts again.

4. Your winning clip is less that 28% all year. All year!!!!!

5. You play large ML plays and lose all the time. You haven’t won ONE parlay either all year. These are FACTS and the information is all logged. Want me to expose the facts AGAIN? I can. 

6. So we’re bringing families into this? Haaaaaa. Tell us all when you were born, what YOUR living situation is and what your true job is in being a fake on this site? 

Here’s what’s gonna happen now: no ownership, you’re gonna scrounge for something, anything and you will pretend as if your ineptness isn’t known to people in here. You ain’t on my level and that right there is the game changer. The posts show it in this site. If you just take the primetime first half plays I’ve won this year alone, that’s more wins and money that you’ve won all year. All year. Yet you claim I plagiarize. Ask LC how many plays he had on primetime. I can respond to your nonsense with facts ALLLLLLLL day. You? You can’t and that’s why we continue to get the clown show. You and your clown clan try so hard. You don’t like me because I’ve ecposed you too many times. I will leave this here and be done with it: CLOWN_12 you are pathetic. Your job is to be a liar and a fake and in bringing families into this....hows the roommmatr treating you? You are 48!!!!!!!! You told us all that. No wonder you get mad with me. I’m done here. Shame on me for getting sucked into the pathetic world of yours. Thanks for all the laughs Chief. It’s been fun. 
 
 
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Triggered, better watch your blood pressure boy.  Keep thinking I "print fake tickets" talk about grasping at straws, LMFAO.

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