I wholeheartedly agree with your statement sir. People call him the G.O.A.T based on his championships, but I disagree. Robert Horry in the NBA had 7 championships (1 more than MJ) but was a career role player, so titles alone in my eyes don't equate to G.O.A.T. Is Brady an excellent QB, OF COURSE!! But G.O.A.T based on titles alone in what is a pen-ultimate team sport. Anyone that disagrees can look at super bowls Brady has won and ones he has lost. He lost a super bowl in his greatest statistical season and strongest team he ever had (2007). He lost a super bowl in which he shattered numerous offensive records (against Philly). The LUCK factors that jump out instantly are: tuck rule game that kick-started the championship collection, Malcolm Butler INT in a game that all Brady could do was watch on the sideline and the defense made a once-in-a-lifetime play. Sure Brady played well, but so did Seattle. The second super bowl versus the Rams. The man played like dogshit and looked like Blake Bortles out there, yet the defense dominated and held the Rams to a FG. The AFC title win vs. KC was a game that neither team could stop each other all day, and the Patriots won the coin toss in OT. The super bowl against the Falcons. Again, I credit Brady for making plays to get the team within fighting distance, but the defense had so many key stops vs. the falcons, timely sacks, and above and beyond any other measure of good fortune, the Pats won the coin toss in OT and faced a gassed defense. One could reasonably argue that Falcons would have scored a TD in OT as well as neither team had much luck stopping one another. The Brady dick-riders will come out and point to the David Tyree Catch, Mario Manningham catch, the Philly-Special, and perhaps other examples where Brady was on the opposite side of luck, but more often than not, the man has enjoyed ridiculous good fortune in his 20 year career. Today's P.I. call late in a game for the Bucs is a classic example. Bucs defenders were getting away with physical play without getting penalized throughout the game, and in the biggest moment, Bucs got the call that sealed the game. For the record, I had no side or total in this game, and profited on player prop wagers.
Brady has fucked Andy Reid twice ('04 super bowl, '18 AFC title game) and Mahomes once ('18 AFC title game) and needless to say, I'll be rooting for the Chiefs to beat the Bucs in their home stadium in two weeks. Knowing Brady's luck, if Mahomes tests positive for COVID-19 at 5:59pm on Sun Feb 6th, I would be the least surprised.
Chalks, Dogs, Overs, Unders, Props....I love 'em all
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@Phillip2002
I wholeheartedly agree with your statement sir. People call him the G.O.A.T based on his championships, but I disagree. Robert Horry in the NBA had 7 championships (1 more than MJ) but was a career role player, so titles alone in my eyes don't equate to G.O.A.T. Is Brady an excellent QB, OF COURSE!! But G.O.A.T based on titles alone in what is a pen-ultimate team sport. Anyone that disagrees can look at super bowls Brady has won and ones he has lost. He lost a super bowl in his greatest statistical season and strongest team he ever had (2007). He lost a super bowl in which he shattered numerous offensive records (against Philly). The LUCK factors that jump out instantly are: tuck rule game that kick-started the championship collection, Malcolm Butler INT in a game that all Brady could do was watch on the sideline and the defense made a once-in-a-lifetime play. Sure Brady played well, but so did Seattle. The second super bowl versus the Rams. The man played like dogshit and looked like Blake Bortles out there, yet the defense dominated and held the Rams to a FG. The AFC title win vs. KC was a game that neither team could stop each other all day, and the Patriots won the coin toss in OT. The super bowl against the Falcons. Again, I credit Brady for making plays to get the team within fighting distance, but the defense had so many key stops vs. the falcons, timely sacks, and above and beyond any other measure of good fortune, the Pats won the coin toss in OT and faced a gassed defense. One could reasonably argue that Falcons would have scored a TD in OT as well as neither team had much luck stopping one another. The Brady dick-riders will come out and point to the David Tyree Catch, Mario Manningham catch, the Philly-Special, and perhaps other examples where Brady was on the opposite side of luck, but more often than not, the man has enjoyed ridiculous good fortune in his 20 year career. Today's P.I. call late in a game for the Bucs is a classic example. Bucs defenders were getting away with physical play without getting penalized throughout the game, and in the biggest moment, Bucs got the call that sealed the game. For the record, I had no side or total in this game, and profited on player prop wagers.
Brady has fucked Andy Reid twice ('04 super bowl, '18 AFC title game) and Mahomes once ('18 AFC title game) and needless to say, I'll be rooting for the Chiefs to beat the Bucs in their home stadium in two weeks. Knowing Brady's luck, if Mahomes tests positive for COVID-19 at 5:59pm on Sun Feb 6th, I would be the least surprised.
Brady scrud Rodgers today. That guy was elite this year. Beat him on his home turf. he'll remember getting beat by an old Brady the rest of his life.
They used to hate Michael Jordan back in the day because of all his championships. To this day Michael Jordan is making hundreds of millions and the rest of these guys are scrambling for peanuts. The Pistons used to kill Jordan until they got old and the NBA created the Jordan rules.
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Brady scrud Rodgers today. That guy was elite this year. Beat him on his home turf. he'll remember getting beat by an old Brady the rest of his life.
They used to hate Michael Jordan back in the day because of all his championships. To this day Michael Jordan is making hundreds of millions and the rest of these guys are scrambling for peanuts. The Pistons used to kill Jordan until they got old and the NBA created the Jordan rules.
Yeah, my team lost. But someone tell me one play Brady made in the 2H today? Oh his one touchdown pass after his defense caused a fumble to start the 2h at like the 10 yard line? I mean the guy literally had 3 interceptions in the 2h and got bailed out on a flag that they didn't call all day. Tell me how he won this game for his team?
Remember, he threw 2 balls in the first half that should have been intercepted that resulted in TD scores. The long duck ball that the safety mis-judged and the dropped INT before the end of the half.
You wanna crown his ass? Go ahead, but i'll take an Aaron Rodgers highlight reel over a Brady one any day. It's fine to call him the G.O.A.T. but from an eye perspective, rodgers has and will always be a more talented player with a team that holds him down every time.
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Yeah, my team lost. But someone tell me one play Brady made in the 2H today? Oh his one touchdown pass after his defense caused a fumble to start the 2h at like the 10 yard line? I mean the guy literally had 3 interceptions in the 2h and got bailed out on a flag that they didn't call all day. Tell me how he won this game for his team?
Remember, he threw 2 balls in the first half that should have been intercepted that resulted in TD scores. The long duck ball that the safety mis-judged and the dropped INT before the end of the half.
You wanna crown his ass? Go ahead, but i'll take an Aaron Rodgers highlight reel over a Brady one any day. It's fine to call him the G.O.A.T. but from an eye perspective, rodgers has and will always be a more talented player with a team that holds him down every time.
Oh Brady was terrible in the 2nd h....no question. The team won it, not him. But they were up 11, and got a fumble to start the 2nd half to go up 18, and that was a huge hill to climb. You have to give the Buccs some credit for going up 18.
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@DscountDblchk12
Oh Brady was terrible in the 2nd h....no question. The team won it, not him. But they were up 11, and got a fumble to start the 2nd half to go up 18, and that was a huge hill to climb. You have to give the Buccs some credit for going up 18.
@budwiser I'm giving credit to the Bucs team. I'm just commenting on the initial idea of this post. Brady will go down as the G.O.A.T. no doubt.
But watching game after game in the playoffs with the guy, it just seems somehow he is always on the right side of everything somehow.
Listen, the guy is an underdog story if you have ever heard of one. But football is a team game. It literally takes your whole roster to win in the playoffs.
He benefited this playoffs from some great defensive play and implosions from other teams. Maybe that's just the Brady factor, but the guy isn't Jesus Christ.
I could count 12 more plays this game that Rodgers made from his ability alone vs Brady. It's just sad that people need to have a dick matching contest with sports.
As a Packers fan, I appreciate everything Rodgers has done for us. I honestly hope, he just leaves the game. He seems like someone that could benefit humanity more than some silly Football game.
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@budwiser I'm giving credit to the Bucs team. I'm just commenting on the initial idea of this post. Brady will go down as the G.O.A.T. no doubt.
But watching game after game in the playoffs with the guy, it just seems somehow he is always on the right side of everything somehow.
Listen, the guy is an underdog story if you have ever heard of one. But football is a team game. It literally takes your whole roster to win in the playoffs.
He benefited this playoffs from some great defensive play and implosions from other teams. Maybe that's just the Brady factor, but the guy isn't Jesus Christ.
I could count 12 more plays this game that Rodgers made from his ability alone vs Brady. It's just sad that people need to have a dick matching contest with sports.
As a Packers fan, I appreciate everything Rodgers has done for us. I honestly hope, he just leaves the game. He seems like someone that could benefit humanity more than some silly Football game.
cmon man after 6 SB wins are you still going to doubt the GOAT? He made it to the SB without Belicheck.....enough said. In the next 2 weeks we will hear everything on both sides....I mean KC is a monster on offense....but KC defense, the GOAT can still shred too so let's see.....lets see.....where the money flows....it all depends....imo.
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@Phillip2002
cmon man after 6 SB wins are you still going to doubt the GOAT? He made it to the SB without Belicheck.....enough said. In the next 2 weeks we will hear everything on both sides....I mean KC is a monster on offense....but KC defense, the GOAT can still shred too so let's see.....lets see.....where the money flows....it all depends....imo.
The Goat lol, he's lucky he gets to play in all these 1 game championships , he usually always sucks like he did today giving away the ball away on three consecutive 2nd half drives, that's a loser for a QB. enough Brady BS .
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@Killer_B
The Goat lol, he's lucky he gets to play in all these 1 game championships , he usually always sucks like he did today giving away the ball away on three consecutive 2nd half drives, that's a loser for a QB. enough Brady BS .
Manning is the best quarterback I've seen in my life. only 2 super bowls.
Elway only got one when he was old.
Rodgers is ELITE and only has one.
And yet THIS GUY...get Bill Belichik, multiple Super Bowls, a hot brazilian wife I mean she is hot in Brazil of all places. he plays golf alongside Phil Mickelson to beat Tiger Woods and Peyton Manning. he is 43 years old, he gets guys like Suh Gronkowski JPP Fournette Evans Godwin Vita AB to play with him with an elite coach in Arians. I mean give me a break man is this guy lucky or what, talk about jealousy lolll
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@DscountDblchk12
loll you got a point
Manning is the best quarterback I've seen in my life. only 2 super bowls.
Elway only got one when he was old.
Rodgers is ELITE and only has one.
And yet THIS GUY...get Bill Belichik, multiple Super Bowls, a hot brazilian wife I mean she is hot in Brazil of all places. he plays golf alongside Phil Mickelson to beat Tiger Woods and Peyton Manning. he is 43 years old, he gets guys like Suh Gronkowski JPP Fournette Evans Godwin Vita AB to play with him with an elite coach in Arians. I mean give me a break man is this guy lucky or what, talk about jealousy lolll
Well, he was a 6th rd draft pick. And, he had played in 9 superbowls while throwing to the likes of guys like Gronk (when he was half-way healthy) Welker, Edelman, Amendola, etc. Just imagine if he had a Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne combo for lets say, maybe half of his career?
And/or a Joseph Addai/Roger Craig type rb to compliment him??
What he has accomplished in his career (w/what little he has had)has been nothing short of unprecedented and to now be participating in his 10th SB makes him easily the best of all-time. What a lot of people fail to realize is the hate that he has had to endure(?) over his career has fueled his fire and he has been able to use that hate as a healthy chip on his shoulder to prove those haters wrong. Full disclosure, I am a New England Pats fan
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Well, he was a 6th rd draft pick. And, he had played in 9 superbowls while throwing to the likes of guys like Gronk (when he was half-way healthy) Welker, Edelman, Amendola, etc. Just imagine if he had a Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne combo for lets say, maybe half of his career?
And/or a Joseph Addai/Roger Craig type rb to compliment him??
What he has accomplished in his career (w/what little he has had)has been nothing short of unprecedented and to now be participating in his 10th SB makes him easily the best of all-time. What a lot of people fail to realize is the hate that he has had to endure(?) over his career has fueled his fire and he has been able to use that hate as a healthy chip on his shoulder to prove those haters wrong. Full disclosure, I am a New England Pats fan
Wins as a QB don't mean much when you're throwing multiple INT'S , lets not make his performances something there not , you can suck and be outplayed at the QB position and still win the game , like Brady's done many times.
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@Mcmanus
Wins as a QB don't mean much when you're throwing multiple INT'S , lets not make his performances something there not , you can suck and be outplayed at the QB position and still win the game , like Brady's done many times.
It's silly that people will spend days arguing about who's the best player of all time and it means nothing. If anything, this season has taught me to just turn off sports talk shows and just watch the games. People will always debate who the greatest is. You're right, Manning was amazing. In my opinion, Rodgers has done more for his team from a football player than Brady did. But maybe Brady's secret sauce is his way to elevate players off the field. Who knows, and who cares. Honestly, there's only been one team in 20 years who have enjoyed success, and it's the Patriots, no one else.
I could make the argument that Reggie White was a better NFL player and man than Tom Brady ever could dream of being.
I just appreciate that my team is at least in the hunt year after year. I could be someone watching a 6-10 football team every year.
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@budwiser
It's silly that people will spend days arguing about who's the best player of all time and it means nothing. If anything, this season has taught me to just turn off sports talk shows and just watch the games. People will always debate who the greatest is. You're right, Manning was amazing. In my opinion, Rodgers has done more for his team from a football player than Brady did. But maybe Brady's secret sauce is his way to elevate players off the field. Who knows, and who cares. Honestly, there's only been one team in 20 years who have enjoyed success, and it's the Patriots, no one else.
I could make the argument that Reggie White was a better NFL player and man than Tom Brady ever could dream of being.
I just appreciate that my team is at least in the hunt year after year. I could be someone watching a 6-10 football team every year.
He is now the greatest American team athlete ever. Could argue the Celtics players but that way before free agency. 10 Super Bowls is just insane. If not for Eli and the Giants and Foles and the Eagles, man. Just watched Tim Hasselbeck criticize him on SVP which is just surreal. But ,yeah one year removed from the Patriots and back in the Superbowl. This isn't basketball where you can throw together three players and be a champion. So much more difficult. Great match up for the Superbowl in Tampa Bay which again is Surreal. He may play til he is 45. He looks as good as he did a decade ago. Amazing.
God is Good and the Ball don't Lie.
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He is now the greatest American team athlete ever. Could argue the Celtics players but that way before free agency. 10 Super Bowls is just insane. If not for Eli and the Giants and Foles and the Eagles, man. Just watched Tim Hasselbeck criticize him on SVP which is just surreal. But ,yeah one year removed from the Patriots and back in the Superbowl. This isn't basketball where you can throw together three players and be a champion. So much more difficult. Great match up for the Superbowl in Tampa Bay which again is Surreal. He may play til he is 45. He looks as good as he did a decade ago. Amazing.
I have the feeling that Brady coaxed Tampa to sign Antonio Brown in order to stick it up Bob Kraft's rear end for not demanding that Belichick resign him until the end of his career.
When AB was let go by the Patriots over issues in his personal life with the opposite sex, AB responded in a way which I thought would forever banish him from the league, he embarrassed an owner.
AB reminded the world about Kraft and his Orchids of Asia Spa scandal (caught on camera soliciting sex) in Jupiter, Florida.
If Kraft were like a Father figure to Brady (that was purported to be the case), he wouldn't have pursued acquiring him IMO unless he had an axe to grind...don't get me wrong, AB aside from being a psychotic and toxic waste dump is a talented receiver that any QB would prefer to have in their arsenal.
Perhaps I am in left field on this one, but I bet that every time Bob Kraft sees AB in uniform and on the field with Brady, it chaps his a$$.
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I have the feeling that Brady coaxed Tampa to sign Antonio Brown in order to stick it up Bob Kraft's rear end for not demanding that Belichick resign him until the end of his career.
When AB was let go by the Patriots over issues in his personal life with the opposite sex, AB responded in a way which I thought would forever banish him from the league, he embarrassed an owner.
AB reminded the world about Kraft and his Orchids of Asia Spa scandal (caught on camera soliciting sex) in Jupiter, Florida.
If Kraft were like a Father figure to Brady (that was purported to be the case), he wouldn't have pursued acquiring him IMO unless he had an axe to grind...don't get me wrong, AB aside from being a psychotic and toxic waste dump is a talented receiver that any QB would prefer to have in their arsenal.
Perhaps I am in left field on this one, but I bet that every time Bob Kraft sees AB in uniform and on the field with Brady, it chaps his a$$.
He’s the GOAT. No question BUT the man has sold his soul to the devil. He’s been a game manager during this playoff run, totally pedestrian. 3!!! Picks today and still wins the game, HOW??
Aaron Jones fumble , FREE 7
Kevin King?? Good grief , FREE 7
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He’s the GOAT. No question BUT the man has sold his soul to the devil. He’s been a game manager during this playoff run, totally pedestrian. 3!!! Picks today and still wins the game, HOW??
@Killer_B The Goat lol, he's lucky he gets to play in all these 1 game championships , he usually always sucks like he did today giving away the ball away on three consecutive 2nd half drives, that's a loser for a QB. enough Brady BS .
100%
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Quote Originally Posted by Silverstones:
@Killer_B The Goat lol, he's lucky he gets to play in all these 1 game championships , he usually always sucks like he did today giving away the ball away on three consecutive 2nd half drives, that's a loser for a QB. enough Brady BS .
Brady scrud Rodgers today. That guy was elite this year. Beat him on his home turf. he'll remember getting beat by an old Brady the rest of his life. They used to hate Michael Jordan back in the day because of all his championships. To this day Michael Jordan is making hundreds of millions and the rest of these guys are scrambling for peanuts. The Pistons used to kill Jordan until they got old and the NBA created the Jordan rules.
Are you out of your mind? You think Brady was a better QB on the field today than Rodgers? Did u watch the game? Clearly not. Dude did everything he can to give the game away.
TB was gifted 2 TD’s. Arians and his defense has carried that turd.
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
Brady scrud Rodgers today. That guy was elite this year. Beat him on his home turf. he'll remember getting beat by an old Brady the rest of his life. They used to hate Michael Jordan back in the day because of all his championships. To this day Michael Jordan is making hundreds of millions and the rest of these guys are scrambling for peanuts. The Pistons used to kill Jordan until they got old and the NBA created the Jordan rules.
Are you out of your mind? You think Brady was a better QB on the field today than Rodgers? Did u watch the game? Clearly not. Dude did everything he can to give the game away.
TB was gifted 2 TD’s. Arians and his defense has carried that turd.
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