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holdingxyz, yes I agree I had jets, denver rams in the games u mentioned.

but all the people in good faith came out after the 49ers won that game, wasnt in the mood to argue
 
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  • MIN +3      Supersized
  • TB    -2      Supersized
  • DET  -2.5  Supersized
  • CLE   +4    Medium fries
  • BUFF +3   Medium fries
  • SEA   -2.5 Let it ride small
  • IND   -8    Supersized
  • NYG  +4.5 Small fries
  • NYJ   +3.5 Small fries
  • OAK  +3.5 Medium fries
  • SD   +2       Medium fries
  • PHI +11     SUPERSIZED 
  • NE        ADDED
  • Here you guys go... Per someones request... 
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Buff 3
Jags 8
Hou 2.5
Clev 4.5
Det -2.5
Vik1.5
Ari 2.5
Giants 4.5
Oak2.5
Jets3.5
Philly 11
Dal (toughest game IMO)-2
Pats 1.5
Saints -6 

Only betting philly, the rest are my leans
 only taking 3 favorites

 
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Interesting day of college football  it must be the end of the month Vegas does not want you to take home the months profits extreme caution until Oct guys
 
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Well they just gave some back last thursday... 
 
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Here are my winners for Sunday.  Hope I'm on the right side of the fixes!! 


Vikes ML +125

Detroit -3 (+105)

Giants ML (+170)

Philly/Denver UN 58.5


Good luck all..................may the fix be with you!  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:

So....the only lesson learned is that week 2 games are difficult to wager and make lines for. Not enough data in a very even(talent-wise) league. It's that simple. It's not a conspiracy, though many on this site continue to staunchly think so. It's week 2, perhaps you should consider this very important fact.
 
Do you think the NE-Jets game was fixed? Or perhaps it is more likely that bettors knew that Brady, without any targets, would struggle against a divisional foe who knows him well? 

How about Vikings-Bears? Everyone knew Cutler would throw a beautiful sideline/endzone TD pass, right at the end to win the game but not cover, right? A line of -6.5 was a sketchy number at home, obviously? Fixed, without a doubt. I am stupid for not seeing this.

The Chargers obviously were waiting for Chip Kelly's onsides kick when they were down 27-23 with under 5 minutes left, right? Clearly fixed. How did I not know. I am dumb.

The Bills were supposed to not only cover, but win the game outright in the last 30 seconds. Obviously fixed. Why didn't I know?

The Titans knew they were going to drive 99 yards to take a 1 point lead on the 4th and then get a pick 6 on the next drive to go up 24-16. Then they gave up a TD and 2 point conversion. They subsuequently had a 3 and out and played with FG kicker Bullock's mind on 3 occasions(who missed the game FG off the left upright) to send it to OT. Where they would eventuallyose by 6. Fixed, fixed, fixed. garbage, I am dumb.

Oh yeah, clearly, the Cowboys were meant to cover the +3.5, isn't it obvious?

The Cardinals knew they would be down 21-19 and get a TD late in the 4th. Scripted to perfection.

Finally, the Bucs absolutely knew they would return an 85 yard INT for a TD in the 4th to cover the spread. I should have known.


Most dudes on here are silly.








Ok guys i think someone need to start a forum here (no one seems to reply to my threads anyways)

The thread should discuss the many ways NFL can be fixed because i have done some research and its hard to figure it out...i dnt think the coach do it and i dont think the players do it and the referees can try to fix it but its a gamble for them as well because it can go south very easily.


So please lets discuss this. How is NFL and NCAAF fixed or controlled in either case which ever one
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fcksptbtng:




Ok guys i think someone need to start a forum here (no one seems to reply to my threads anyways)

The thread should discuss the many ways NFL can be fixed because i have done some research and its hard to figure it out...i dnt think the coach do it and i dont think the players do it and the referees can try to fix it but its a gamble for them as well because it can go south very easily.


So please lets discuss this. How is NFL and NCAAF fixed or controlled in either case which ever one

Oh easy.. If  you were within that circle.. And you had every play in the book... What would you do to fix a game? Now im imagining you are slighly dirty and greedy... Just ask yourself this.. Dont go posting all over the place as if everyones always has answers for you.. FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.. Besides,, what if a person came and told you something and he ends up lying? FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF... 
 
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And maybe people are at home busy finding out who's their next play or watching line movements.. Who really cares how what why.. Its more a matter of when... 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

And maybe people are at home busy finding out who's their next play or watching line movements.. Who really cares how what why.. Its more a matter of when... 


how the hell am i suppose to find out?
So talk to goodell? or something

I have an idea something is shady but u are missing my question...how? and am looking for real stuff here not some assumptions...i can assume many ways too yes...as your name says holdingxyz..i know all that..am not stupid..lol

What am saying is real life stuff about some busted things happeneing


And i requested for movies/films u said books and yet u never mentioned title of books


common be helpful for once
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fcksptbtng:



how the hell am i suppose to find out?
So talk to goodell? or something

I have an idea something is shady but u are missing my question...how? and am looking for real stuff here not some assumptions...i can assume many ways too yes...as your name says holdingxyz..i know all that..am not stupid..lol

What am saying is real life stuff about some busted things happeneing


And i requested for movies/films u said books and yet u never mentioned title of books


common be helpful for once

Sorry im not helpful.. 
 
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HoldingXYZ is correct, at least in terms of what someone would do if given the chance to fix games.  It is really rather hard, given our perspective.

Think about this though: Knowing that the most popular of NFL ratings are Dallas Cowboys & Green Bay Packers games shown to the public, and you knew millions of people were excited to watch the Cowboys/Packers, all the while knowing that you, CEO of business ops, has to make the NFL rich in the most profitable yet simplest of ways, would you do some kind of trick to make Dallas or Green Bay reach the playoffs each/every season?
 
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BINGO
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Daran.T:

HoldingXYZ is correct, at least in terms of what someone would do if given the chance to fix games.  It is really rather hard, given our perspective.

Think about this though: Knowing that the most popular of NFL ratings are Dallas Cowboys & Green Bay Packers games shown to the public, and you knew millions of people were excited to watch the Cowboys/Packers, all the while knowing that you, CEO of business ops, has to make the NFL rich in the most profitable yet simplest of ways, would you do some kind of trick to make Dallas or Green Bay reach the playoffs each/every season?

so why did the nfl give room a brand new ball that slipped out of his hands for the fg, and how come the cowboys haven't won a playoff game in like ten years. the packers have won 1 sb in last 17 years. from 99-03 Denver stllouis, Baltimore, new England, and tampa bay won. Yeah real big markets. Guess what, the ratings didn't suffer because football fans will watch any match up in sb. you conspiracy nuts take statistically normal events and make them seem unnormal. The league does not fix games, you can yell all you want on these forums that you want to say they do

 
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I meant Tony Romo, the year the cowboys lost to seattle on the missed fg try.
 
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You ever been to that dallas stadium? Wow how many can be seated there on a night? Then you have all the concerts and all that PIE.. HOW COME YOU THINK DALLAS CARES.?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

You ever been to that dallas stadium? Wow how many can be seated there on a night? Then you have all the concerts and all that PIE.. HOW COME YOU THINK DALLAS CARES.?

Instead of making VAGUE WEIRD POSTS,  why don't you come out and say what is GOING ON? 

You're easily one of the most annoying posters here.  And that says a lot.





 
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

  • MIN +3      Supersized
  • TB    -2      Supersized
  • DET  -2.5  Supersized
  • CLE   +4    Medium fries
  • BUFF +3   Medium fries
  • SEA   -2.5 Let it ride small
  • IND   -8    Supersized
  • NYG  +4.5 Small fries
  • NYJ   +3.5 Small fries
  • OAK  +3.5 Medium fries
  • SD   +2       Medium fries
  • PHI +11     SUPERSIZED 
  • NE        ADDED
  • Here you guys go... Per someones request... 
  • BOL

Moron
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


Instead of making VAGUE WEIRD POSTS,  why don't you come out and say what is GOING ON? 

You're easily one of the most annoying posters here.  And that says a lot.






AND WHO WAS TRYING TO RESPOND TO YOU? MR WWF.. MAYBE YOU FIXED IT ALL.. 
 
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You do realize that you can pick eithr side? Right? So maybe they are good at the ines but the lines are set by betters not anyone else.....so when big bettors put their money one way or another that ultimately sets the lines...I'm pretty close on this...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:



Age does not impart wisdom, my friend. A false maxim. Good luck to you.

I AM OLD AND I AGREE.... BUT it does impare vision and force us fart more than impart ... and the NFL to me means No friggin Luck

In fact last week, at the very last second .... I faded myself (yes maybe farted myself as well) .... on what I Thought were pretty sure bets ... and went 4-0

But truth be told I am a gambler and hence I have no real favorite team.... so I dont like watching the NFL unless I bet it ......

AND oh by the way ... this weeks SURE THING is the KAnsas City CHiefs -4 ........ they cant lose to this giants team in conplete disaray ... Can they ????

 

FADE

 

 
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Games are not scripted. Line makers are just VERY VERY good at what they do.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

You ever been to that dallas stadium? Wow how many can be seated there on a night? Then you have all the concerts and all that PIE.. HOW COME YOU THINK DALLAS CARES.?

Dude....You need to change your handle to "The Riddler".....What the f.uck are you talking about?  Get off the Meth.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ironpedler:

You do realize that you can pick eithr side? Right? So maybe they are good at the ines but the lines are set by betters not anyone else.....so when big bettors put their money one way or another that ultimately sets the lines...I'm pretty close on this...

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NewYorkCowboy:

I AM OLD AND I AGREE.... BUT it does impare vision and force us fart more than impart ... and the NFL to me means No friggin Luck

In fact last week, at the very last second .... I faded myself (yes maybe farted myself as well) .... on what I Thought were pretty sure bets ... and went 4-0

But truth be told I am a gambler and hence I have no real favorite team.... so I dont like watching the NFL unless I bet it ......

AND oh by the way ... this weeks SURE THING is the KAnsas City CHiefs -4 ........ they cant lose to this giants team in conplete disaray ... Can they ????

 

FADE

 


About the watching the game without money involved i totally agree.. I used to have favorite teams and players until i start to pile on so much data that i can barely relax on a normal nice day.. 

In regards to the Giants, sure they have been dumping,, i did well on the Car-nyg game when everyone in the world says pitt and nyg cant go 0-3... I had an early post about Rg3, nyg, Sf and so forth all dumping at the same time... What are the odds? So i made a switch from kc to nyg for small fries just to watch the game.. Just so i can challenge myself.. 
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