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I could make the same argument about Kurt Warner that you've been making about Eli with Plaxico.  How many balls does Warner simply throw up to Larry Fitzgerald?  What about the 5 yard passes he throws to Anquan Boldin who is the best yards after catch receiver in the league? 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:


yeah chargers are lucky to have rivers----

LUCK-- Also this guy has had a horshoe up his ass his whole career-

In the superbowl he throws the late INT that goes right through SAMUELS hands and he DROPS IT--

Then the throw to TYREE where he was under the grasp of a D player and throws a lucky pass to TYREE--

THe luck has ran out and this guy is very very average- He cannot lead a team, you better have a top 5 defense in the NFL and a top 3 running game if you expect to win with this scared coward--

This man is simply scared of contact, and because of that he will not take a hit and his team will lose.

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And they gave this mofo the mvp for that SB... They had 10 pts with 2 mins to go in the game. Tyree should've gotten it for bailing him out.

The team he's on has to play great all around, he can't carry them.
And he's lucky. Against the Cardinals, DRC swats the ball 15 yards to his guy on the dead run for a TD. Let me know when you see that again, or that lucky fckn stunt Tryee pulled off with Harrison draped all over him. 
 
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Sammy my friend you embarrassing yourself with your lack of football knowledge and failure to recognize why the Giants are not playing well, and it is not Eli>>> 

Are you mad b/c the Giants lost you money or he made love to your sister?
 
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The reason I bet the games is I couldn't watch this shit any other way.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mgcfeet17:

I could make the same argument about Kurt Warner that you've been making about Eli with Plaxico.  How many balls does Warner simply throw up to Larry Fitzgerald?  What about the 5 yard passes he throws to Anquan Boldin who is the best yards after catch receiver in the league? 

Really. Do you think Eli Manning could come to teams as bad as the Rams were in 1998 or the Cardinals who hadn't won jack ever and resurrect their franchises and get them to SBs? Who are you kidding, Eli Manning is average. He can't dominate a game like his brother, Warner, or Brady. He'll have an exceptional game once in a while, the rest of the time average. He had a good month leading up to the SB win.

Larry Fitzgerald ain't Larry Fitzgerald unless Kurt Warner puts it on him and lets him do his thing, just like he did with Holt & Bruce previously. 

If his name wasn't Manning he wouldn't be put on a pedestal.
 
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Really. Do you think Eli Manning could come to teams as bad as the Rams were in 1998 or the Cardinals who hadn't won jack ever and resurrect their franchises and get them to SBs? Who are you kidding, Eli Manning is average. He can't dominate a game like his brother, Warner, or Brady. He'll have an exceptional game once in a while, the rest of the time average. He had a good month leading up to the SB win.
 
I noticed you decided to exclude Brees, and throw Warner in their. Brees is better than Warner, I know he needs to win the big games, but they are coming.
 
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u have to throw brady and manning out of the equation they are in a league of their own. after that u have farve brees rodgers who i would say are clearly the next best. then u have a bunch of guys who go up and down. warner looks good at times but also looks like shit at times. its a tough league manning romo rivers mcnabb big ben schaub there the next level. above average qbs who can win a suber bowl. by no means suck

 
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Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

Sammy my friend you embarrassing yourself with your lack of football knowledge and failure to recognize why the Giants are not playing well, and it is not Eli>>> 

Are you mad b/c the Giants lost you money or he made love to your sister?

couldnt agree more

 
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Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


Really. Do you think Eli Manning could come to teams as bad as the Rams were in 1998 or the Cardinals who hadn't won jack ever and resurrect their franchises and get them to SBs? Who are you kidding, Eli Manning is average. He can't dominate a game like his brother, Warner, or Brady. He'll have an exceptional game once in a while, the rest of the time average. He had a good month leading up to the SB win.
 
I noticed you decided to exclude Brees, and throw Warner in their. Brees is better than Warner, I know he needs to win the big games, but they are coming.


Please explain to me why Brees is better than Warner?
 
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Please explain to me why Brees is better than Warner?


Unless you're talking about this year.
 
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It all comes down to one thing.

Money

$106.9 million over the next seven years
Who cares if you win or lose if your getting paid 1 million a game. Highest paid QB
 
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Eli needs everything in place to run a game. Things are falling apart around him. He is NOT his Brother and can't carry the team like Payton.

Looks to me like the Offensive Line is Breaking down too. No, Back to catch and move, no major Receiver, no offenisive line... times are tuff.

Things are looking bad now and blame will start being thrown around. Could colapse the Team, good fade material the rest of the year if things stay the same.

I bet them...  Cant win em all..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



Unless you're talking about this year.

Of course, this year give me Bree over Kurt Warner, plus he is not consistent enough to me.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



Unless you're talking about this year.

 

You, my friend need to be worried this Sunday, you have 25 players on the injury list. I am pounding Hou this week.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

Of course, this year give me Bree over Kurt Warner, plus he is not consistent enough to me.



Alright, I definitely agree.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

 

You, my friend need to be worried this Sunday, you have 25 players on the injury list. I am pounding Hou this week.



I need to be worried? As long as the Colts have Peyton under center, he can be throwing to high school players, and I'll be fine. Pound Houston, I can't disagree with you, Houston always plays Indy tough. But as far as being worried, I think the Saints have more to be worried about than the Colts.
 
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You sound like another loser venting after making a bad bet.  You could not sound like a bigger fool that has zero clue about the NFL and how the games are played.  The things that are going wrong w/ the Giants are deep and plenty.  First things first the problem starts on defensive side of the ball and the sole cause of their ineptitude is their inability to pressure the QB w/ their front 4.  Their secondary is being torched because of the lack of pressure up front and it all falls apart from this inherent problem that should not be a problem.  The strength of this team is it's defensive front and their depth at the position. Of all the problems the Giants have this is problem numero uno hands down and they look ridiculous here!

If you watched Eli last week against Atl you saw what he is capable of when asked to sling it. Fortunately the Giants are not built to win games w/ Eli chucking it around just like most teams.  The problem with this offense falls squarely on its inability to effectively run the ball on a consistent basis and allow Eli do what he does best w play action under center and not this shotgun crap hey are using now allwoing the defense to pin their ears bak w/ relentless pressure.  Eli throws a ball second to none...he is 2nd to none when it comes to mounting a game winning drive and there are not too many i'd rather have behind center when it counts,  You r completely off w/ your comments and I'm not sure why i'm even wasting m time w/ this.  The problems stem so much deeper than QB play it"s ridiculous!  His own signal caller (gilbride) can be blamed beforeu bring up qb that's how off you are ....watch some football please!
 
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Dude, Peyton is hurting also, luckily it's a glute injury, Wayne is hurt Addai, and Bethea and Freeney. Read it on nfl.com
 
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Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

Dude, Peyton is hurting also, luckily it's a glute injury, Wayne is hurt Addai, and Bethea and Freeney. Read it on nfl.com

Peyton is a far superior QB to Brees and the Colts are a far superior team to the Saints. Some reasons: The colts pull out tough games against good teams like the Patriots and the Texans.  The Saints pull out tough games against teams like Carolina and St. Louis.
 
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Rivers vs ELI? HMMMMMMM

Rivers walked into Denver and said fuck you Denver and basically owned them, he said you are my bitches and I own you guys. He was cocky and fired up and working it vs a pretty good Denver Defense--

Rivers is playing POSSESSED and is a TRUE leader-
He does not have his blood family to pull strings to get him in the league like Manning and Simms.

Manning's are CHOKERS, they dont win big games, look at their careers, they both lost every big game in College, they both lost every single playoff game they have played in, except for the one title they both got-

The Eli Superbowl win appears good but the REALITY is its not good at all-
Richard Seymour told ELI get ready to go HOME on that final DRIVE of the game- ELI folded like a 7 year 1 legged school girl, he wanted off the field and wanted no part of that game-
So he throws a perfect pass to Ashante samuel who DROPS perhaps one of the easiest INT's ever.
If I was brady or bellichek I would give Samuel a good solid beating for dropping that INT-
Manning folded there, Seymour yelled at him and ELI folded again and tried to lose the game but SAMUEL fucked up-

THen he throws the miraculous terrible Duck and TYREE makes a basically one in a million CATCH--

This guy is a choker, he is slow, not athletic, not a leader, wimpy , soft, has NO ARM, cannot throw deep, cannot move in the pocket, audibles to the point where he checks into the wrong play and flat out is scared of the defenders.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


Really. Do you think Eli Manning could come to teams as bad as the Rams were in 1998 or the Cardinals who hadn't won jack ever and resurrect their franchises and get them to SBs? Who are you kidding, Eli Manning is average. He can't dominate a game like his brother, Warner, or Brady. He'll have an exceptional game once in a while, the rest of the time average. He had a good month leading up to the SB win.
 
I noticed you decided to exclude Brees, and throw Warner in their. Brees is better than Warner, I know he needs to win the big games, but they are coming.

Brees is better than Warner...hmmm.... the jury is out as to whether he will make the HOF... he has a ring, and led his team to the show in the later portion of his career.... went to the SB in every season the he started every game... whether he makes the HOF or not, is in question.....Brees, as of right now, is not even a consideration by any AP, or analysts opinons...not even close...so better than Warner? that is a helluva statement to support; but I have yet to see a post of yours that is ever supported by fact, or any that would lead anyone to think you know what you are talking about.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

  • u have to throw brady and manning out of the equation they are in a league of their own. after that u have farve brees rodgers who i would say are clearly the next best. then u have a bunch of guys who go up and down. warner looks good at times but also looks like shit at times. its a tough league manning romo rivers mcnabb big ben schaub there the next level. above average qbs who can win a suber bowl. by no means suck

How can you say Aaron Rodgers is better than Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, and Big Ben?  How is Brees any better than Philip Rivers?  Although, he is having a good season last year, Brees didn't even make the playoffs last year.

 
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I would be shocked in ELI ever beats a good defense in the NFL--

I know that even I can coach a NFL defense and shut out ELI also-

ZONA figured this out finally, blitz blitz this guy and he is DONE-

He cannot handle people near him because he cannot move, and he also has a weak arm and cannot make most of the NFL throws, BURRIS made this guy into an average QB, as he would throw it up for grabs and Burris always made the catch--

Now he has no BURRIS and he is BELOW average- Stats dont lie, he did nothing vs Zona, nothing vs Denver, any Aggressive D shuts this guy down like he is nothing--

I am telling everyone this guy is the easiest money in the NFL, the GIANTS will not win with this guy once teams COMMITT to blitzing him, he has no TALL receivers now, so he cant just throw it for grabs and rely on a 6'5 receivers to make the catch--

I would say that ELI could honestly be as good as a Brady Quinn, Derek ANdreson, Trent Edwards, jamarcus Russell, Jason Cambell-

If you watch FILM on all these QBs they are basically the same, in that they are SPINELESS, weak minded inaccurate QB's---
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:



I know that even I can coach a NFL defense and shut out ELI also-


Nope
 
 
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look at the numbers reach.. and big ben gets hurt every fucking week
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