NFL Team to win NFC Division Odds

Like the Falcons +210

I like Seattle but I got it at +250

Giants
Packers
49ers
Falcons

DegoMo

all being equal the four teams would be 3/1 (a 100% book)

with the bookmakers margin built in they would all be around 13/5 - 11/4

agree that 4/1 Tampa is a horrible price, I would want double that at least.

Really?  You think, during the offseason, the Bears got worse than their 9-7 record last year?  Not to mention they have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year.

Your bashing of the Bears leading up to this season is very telling.  I don't blame you, I'd be worried, too.  It must be the fact that you live in Chicago and you just can't handle the ribbing.

First, SOS is the most OVERRATED statistic you can look at.  It has no relevance whatsoever, period, end of story.  I say it like it is regarding the Bears.  They are way too weak on Defense, O line, and at WR to win this division.  And, to be honest, I'm not worried at all about the Bears.  The Packers are the team I am worried about. 

I like the Pack in the North because they have the best QB in this division. We will see just how good Cutler is when he has to throw to dogshit receivers.

In the West you have to take a look at Seattle, typically the loser of the Superbowl fails to make the playoffs the following year which wipes out Arizona, the Rams never seem to be healthy and 49ers seem to get over hyped every year. I like Hasselback and the addition of TJ Houshmanzadeh along with the pick of Aaron Curry.

The South and the East are just too tough to call for me.  But if I had to I would put it on the Falcons and the Saints in the South and you come out ahead if either of those win. In the East if I had a gun to my head I would go with Philly, you have a rejuvenated McNabb. The Cowboys are overrated every season and the Redskins seem to make the biggest splash in the offseason but it never seems to make a difference when it counts. Giants are a real solid club but they were a different team w/out Plax.

Good shit man

Only difference I still think that Minnesota takes the North, I'm trying to figure out what to expect from Cutler and the Bears.  I just don't know yet, I can't wait to at least see a preseason game..
I need to look at Green Bay a little harder, Detroit is Detroit.
Completely agree with the Seahawks, kinda have this feeling Warner is going to be banged up this season.  See the Cards struggling.  Rams are couple years away, 9ers don't have a QB.

East I go with Phily too, I think Washington's D is going to be tough but don't know if I trust Cambell yet, but I still think he has a good future ahead of him.  Dallas is going to finish last in my opinion, and the Giants I think struggle a little this season too.  I think they slip, losing Plax is a big difference.  I don't know if Nicks is going to make a huge difference this season.

South is the Falcons for me.  I think the Panthers slip maybe to second or 3rd.  Tampa is going to be bad this year.  Saints I don't know think its a little up in the air.  I always think they are going to be better than they are maybe a wild card?  Falcons are going to be really good this year in my opinion.  But hell its only a couple days into training camp. 

Obviously, you have a position (i.e. an incredible positive bias for the Vikes and negative bias against the Bears) and are grasping at any straws you can to fulfill your beliefs.

The Packers OL is MUCH more questionable than the Bears.  The Bears weren't weak on the OL last year and they have significantly upgraded that unit for this year (three free agents and a healthy Chris Williams).  The OL is one of the key reasons the Packers were 6-10 last year and they haven't addressed it in the offseason.

The Bears defense should be better this year with Urlacher completely recovered from neck surgery and Tommie Harris reporting the camp 100% healthy.  There won't be a better linebacking corps in the league than Briggs, Urlacher and Pisa, with plenty of strong back-up options.  The DL has the same people the '05 and '06 units had when they completely dominated the league.  Now they have Marinelli coaching them.

Cornerback shouldn't be a problem, but safety could be the weakness, I will give you that.

Now, to the Vikings.  I'll just cut and paste this from ESPN:

"It's easy to be deceived as to how good an NFL team was in a given season by looking at its record. Yes, the Vikings went 10-6 and won the NFC North last year, but was this really a team worthy of making the playoffs? After all, they beat the winless Lions by scores of only 12-10 and 20-16. They narrowly edged the Packers 28-27 when Mason Crosby's last-second field goal try went just wide, and if not for a 50-yard Ryan Longwell field goal at the gun in Week 17, they wouldn't have beaten the "nothing to play for" Giants."

In contrast, the Bears were winning late at Carolina last year except for a late fumble by a wide receiver that gave the game away.  They lost to the Falcons on a fluke last second drive in Atlanta.  They completely botched the game against Tampa Bay and let it get to over time.  All the breaks the Vikings got last year went in the opposite direction for the Bears.  Don't expect that kind of luck to continue year after year.

Add to that, Gus Frerotte was sacked 29 times in 11 games last year, and you think the Bears have OL issues?!?!?!?!

This Vikings team doesn't scare anyone with Sage RosenStein and Turnovaris Sackson at QB.  This is a QB league and you have none.

Until you have a team that is capable of winning a playoff game, I'd suggest you keep your mouth shut.

Im just a fan that KNOWS wtf he is talking about.  First off, I don't copy and paste stuff from espn.com nonetheless LOL, which is  the worst site for NFL tidbits.  Now back to smashing you in another post.

The Bears offensive line was HORRIBLE last year.   60% of your offensive line hasn't played a snap together LOL.  Pretty high risk if you ask me.  Pace bus is damaged goods - even the RAMS let him go lol.  Urlacher is 2 years past his prime.  The bears have the THIRD best LB corps in the NFC NORTH.  Hilarious!  You honestly think they are going to have the best corps in the NFL 

And, don't talk about "luck of the game."  The Bears were the definition in 2006.  They rely way too much on the TO, and with a defense like that, it will cost them time and time again kid.  And, NEVER compare the fckin' Bears o line with the Vikings LOL.  Seems like it's YOU who should stfu son. . .

Funny, I didn't see one single thing in your thread, or any inane thread you come up with while we are at it,that wasn't MDAAKD's asinine opinion.  No facts and no conjecture than can be backed up by any other objective source.

What objective measure can you point to that justifies the Bears O-line as "horrible"?  29 sacks in 11 games horrible?

Hmm, let's see.  The Bears have 2 pro-bowlers at linebacker (one a hall of famer) plus the leading tackler for the Rams over the last three years.  Which linebacking corps in the North can you compare with that and still keep a straight face?  Urlacher is 31, hardly past his prime.  (I know these things called facts are difficult for you to swallow.  I can understand why you don't use them, though, since not a single fact can support any of your arguments.)

With those two retards passing themselves off as QBs, the Vikings will be lucky if AP's legs don't fall off with all the carries he will get vs. defenses that will be stacked against him every single week.

Yeah, right, the '06 Bears lucked their way all the way to a 2nd quarter lead in the Super Bowl.

You're a fanboy surrounded by Bears fans who have obviously given you an inferiority complex.  You don't have a clue.

How many probowlers did the Bears send to Hawaii last year?  LOL.  Your lack of football knowledge just makes me chuckle with every pathetic post you type!  Urlacher's stats are avg at best the last two seasons, but you would know that right. 

The 2006 Bears had a few fortunate games go there way ala the NYG, SF, and AZ games to name a few. 

Bears O line is in the bottom half of the league.  Anyone that has even a basic understanding of the game knows this, obviously you don't

So, there you go.  You were incorrect on many things just noted.  You want facts, look them up yourself.  I didn't have to kid. 

Did I claim that they went to the pro bowl last year?  No.  But, since you want to continue to make an ass out of yourself, LANCE BRIGGS WAS THE STARTING OLB FOR THE NFC IN THE 2009 PRO BOWL, DUMBASS.

Has Ray Lewis had years where he wasn't elected to the pro bowl in between pro bowl years?  Yes.

Urlacher had 5 sacks, 5 interceptions, 123 tackles and a defensive touchdown in 2007.  But don't let the facts get in your way, moron.

So the '06 Bears were fortunate to have a 13-3 record, smash the Saints in the NFC championship game and go to the SUPER BOWL?

The Giants and 9ers games?  What the hell are you talking about, dude?

You may not have to look up facts, but you certainly make yourself look like a fool time and time again by not doing so.

Briggs wasn't originally picked dipshit.  Point is that you keep posting dumb posts with no rationale to back up your reasoning!

Ray Lewis is a HOF, so please, don't even bring him and a Chicago Bear up in the same post again.  Then again, I expected a sentence of that magnitude LOL.  Urlacher is arguably the most OVERRATED LB in the NFL (where Chad Greenway is the MOST UNDERRATED).  You know damn well that the Bears had a lucky year in 2006.  TO after TO.  Ha, even when they played the Vikings at home last year they got lucky.  Charles Gordon fucked us with 2 ST miscues.  Won't happen again, since we waived him.

Bears fans are the worst.  They have one track minds and they claim that every year is their year LOL.  You guys already won the SB because Cutler is here, didn't you get that memo fuckhead Ball falls that way sometimes, but then they came back to reality in 2007 and 2008 haha. 

Stick with a real football team like the Steelers (looking from your avatar LOL).  So, you're a Bears fan AND a Steelers fan lol.