Quote Originally Posted by ROCKON: It's the NFL and it's KC the ref who was giving Buffalo saw where the ball was the other ref on the other side had Allen's backside marks it short crazy shit again..Buffalo fucked up getting away from Cook I agree. It was a very risky decision to run the qb sneak again. But your point about the ref seeing only Josh Allen’s back is the one who marks him short, where as the ref who could actually see the ball marked him for a first down. This alone is very upsetting to the fans who want to see the call made properly.
Had the over not the side in this one, but this was my problem right from the jump. How can the ref who couldn't see the ball at all from where he was positioned, only Allen's back through a see of defenders and offensive lineman, make the overriding determination. If he was being fair and impartial he has to admit to the other officials, he couldn't see it and defer to the one who could. How does this not happen? It's a travesty.
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Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:
Quote Originally Posted by ROCKON: It's the NFL and it's KC the ref who was giving Buffalo saw where the ball was the other ref on the other side had Allen's backside marks it short crazy shit again..Buffalo fucked up getting away from Cook I agree. It was a very risky decision to run the qb sneak again. But your point about the ref seeing only Josh Allen’s back is the one who marks him short, where as the ref who could actually see the ball marked him for a first down. This alone is very upsetting to the fans who want to see the call made properly.
Had the over not the side in this one, but this was my problem right from the jump. How can the ref who couldn't see the ball at all from where he was positioned, only Allen's back through a see of defenders and offensive lineman, make the overriding determination. If he was being fair and impartial he has to admit to the other officials, he couldn't see it and defer to the one who could. How does this not happen? It's a travesty.
This is getting old, everyone blaming the refs when KC wins. Seems people can't wrap their heads around that KC has a real good team. Buffalo didn't need to run a QB sneak and make it as close as it was. Blame Buffalo's offensive line for not getting a bigger push on that sneak.
Nobody is blaming anyone for anything. This is a discussion for the adults. Carry on.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ufo2112:
This is getting old, everyone blaming the refs when KC wins. Seems people can't wrap their heads around that KC has a real good team. Buffalo didn't need to run a QB sneak and make it as close as it was. Blame Buffalo's offensive line for not getting a bigger push on that sneak.
Nobody is blaming anyone for anything. This is a discussion for the adults. Carry on.
Who cares about that one play. Every game, calls go both ways. Bills took a lot of risks and it ended up losing them the game. If you told me Bills had the ball with 3 minutes plus down 3, I’ll take that every time.
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Who cares about that one play. Every game, calls go both ways. Bills took a lot of risks and it ended up losing them the game. If you told me Bills had the ball with 3 minutes plus down 3, I’ll take that every time.
The one thing that is really pissing me off about the BUF/KC game. I’ve seen this in multiple games this season. 4th and one for Buffalo, Josh Allen qb sneaks. He’s obviously very close to the line to gain. So close that one official is calling it a first down and the other is marking him inches short. The original spot for the ball, I thought was perfect. On the tv broadcast the nose of the football was just hanging over the orange first down line. I know that line is not official, but I’ll tell you it’s usually pretty damn accurate. Now this is a huge play and it goes to automatic booth review which is excellent. After they come back from commercial they say the ruling on the field stands and the runner was short of the line to gain. No measurement, no explanation, nothing. Anyone who knows the play that I’m talking about knows this- Josh Allen never went down to the ground. The ball was never anywhere near the ground. So how could you possibly know where to spot the ball in relation to the field (ground) without placing it on the ground and taking a measurement?
The officials were never going to let the bills win the game. That was a high conviction feeling I got.
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Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:
The one thing that is really pissing me off about the BUF/KC game. I’ve seen this in multiple games this season. 4th and one for Buffalo, Josh Allen qb sneaks. He’s obviously very close to the line to gain. So close that one official is calling it a first down and the other is marking him inches short. The original spot for the ball, I thought was perfect. On the tv broadcast the nose of the football was just hanging over the orange first down line. I know that line is not official, but I’ll tell you it’s usually pretty damn accurate. Now this is a huge play and it goes to automatic booth review which is excellent. After they come back from commercial they say the ruling on the field stands and the runner was short of the line to gain. No measurement, no explanation, nothing. Anyone who knows the play that I’m talking about knows this- Josh Allen never went down to the ground. The ball was never anywhere near the ground. So how could you possibly know where to spot the ball in relation to the field (ground) without placing it on the ground and taking a measurement?
The officials were never going to let the bills win the game. That was a high conviction feeling I got.
He didn’t make it, the ref that has the better view, made the call, they reviewed it in new york , these guys are just mad they lost, if it’s soo rigged don’t watch ,
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He didn’t make it, the ref that has the better view, made the call, they reviewed it in new york , these guys are just mad they lost, if it’s soo rigged don’t watch ,
I Had the over with no side but will say this.....he did get the first down and they are indeed (league and the refs) under fire about this call as the link will solidify and show with reasoning but in the end it all won't mean shit because the league wants who they want in their bowl and they got it.
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I Had the over with no side but will say this.....he did get the first down and they are indeed (league and the refs) under fire about this call as the link will solidify and show with reasoning but in the end it all won't mean shit because the league wants who they want in their bowl and they got it.
The one thing that is really pissing me off about the BUF/KC game. I’ve seen this in multiple games this season. 4th and one for Buffalo, Josh Allen qb sneaks. He’s obviously very close to the line to gain. So close that one official is calling it a first down and the other is marking him inches short. The original spot for the ball, I thought was perfect. On the tv broadcast the nose of the football was just hanging over the orange first down line. I know that line is not official, but I’ll tell you it’s usually pretty damn accurate. Now this is a huge play and it goes to automatic booth review which is excellent. After they come back from commercial they say the ruling on the field stands and the runner was short of the line to gain. No measurement, no explanation, nothing. Anyone who knows the play that I’m talking about knows this- Josh Allen never went down to the ground. The ball was never anywhere near the ground. So how could you possibly know where to spot the ball in relation to the field (ground) without placing it on the ground and taking a measurement?
How bout the flag that they thought they might need but took away and stuffed back in their pocket
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:
The one thing that is really pissing me off about the BUF/KC game. I’ve seen this in multiple games this season. 4th and one for Buffalo, Josh Allen qb sneaks. He’s obviously very close to the line to gain. So close that one official is calling it a first down and the other is marking him inches short. The original spot for the ball, I thought was perfect. On the tv broadcast the nose of the football was just hanging over the orange first down line. I know that line is not official, but I’ll tell you it’s usually pretty damn accurate. Now this is a huge play and it goes to automatic booth review which is excellent. After they come back from commercial they say the ruling on the field stands and the runner was short of the line to gain. No measurement, no explanation, nothing. Anyone who knows the play that I’m talking about knows this- Josh Allen never went down to the ground. The ball was never anywhere near the ground. So how could you possibly know where to spot the ball in relation to the field (ground) without placing it on the ground and taking a measurement?
How bout the flag that they thought they might need but took away and stuffed back in their pocket
it won’t cost them books won , nfl won 99.9 and the people saying i’m done the nfl are just getting emotional, they will be back here and when the chiefs repeat they will more then likely screaming fix, , honestly the public is willing stupid they know it’s so rigged supposedly for the chiefs yet bet against them, that’s good for me , stuff been rigged for 30 years probably even longer, look at it this way all these sports book apps ain’t opening up because the public is winning !!
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@SportsIntuition
it won’t cost them books won , nfl won 99.9 and the people saying i’m done the nfl are just getting emotional, they will be back here and when the chiefs repeat they will more then likely screaming fix, , honestly the public is willing stupid they know it’s so rigged supposedly for the chiefs yet bet against them, that’s good for me , stuff been rigged for 30 years probably even longer, look at it this way all these sports book apps ain’t opening up because the public is winning !!
what are you crying about then , your on a gambling forum saying refs are cheating, hmm ?? so what would a person with a little bit of common sense do????
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@justliketoplay
what are you crying about then , your on a gambling forum saying refs are cheating, hmm ?? so what would a person with a little bit of common sense do????
What I can't believe that in the 21st century and all the technology there isn't a way to isolate one player (Allen) in the pile of bodies and be able to tell at any given point did he make the line to gain.
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What I can't believe that in the 21st century and all the technology there isn't a way to isolate one player (Allen) in the pile of bodies and be able to tell at any given point did he make the line to gain.
it won’t cost them books won , nfl won 99.9 and the people saying i’m done the nfl are just getting emotional, they will be back here and when the chiefs repeat they will more then likely screaming fix, , honestly the public is willing stupid they know it’s so rigged supposedly for the chiefs yet bet against them, that’s good for me , stuff been rigged for 30 years probably even longer, look at it this way all these sports book apps ain’t opening up because the public is winning !
Got news for you the chiefs are NOT winning
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@jflydaddy
it won’t cost them books won , nfl won 99.9 and the people saying i’m done the nfl are just getting emotional, they will be back here and when the chiefs repeat they will more then likely screaming fix, , honestly the public is willing stupid they know it’s so rigged supposedly for the chiefs yet bet against them, that’s good for me , stuff been rigged for 30 years probably even longer, look at it this way all these sports book apps ain’t opening up because the public is winning !
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