Why would the sharps not just buy the points to where they want it to begin with? Instead of investing all this $ just to make the line move to buy it back the other way at a better line.
If what they want is Giants +3.5 or +3 just buy the points in the first place and place your bet duh
It's not that silly. There was a college football game earlier this season - Nevada vs Texas Tech. The early action moved the line from Texas Tech -20 to -21.5 or something like that.
Then during the week, the money poured in on Nevada. By kickoff, it was Texas Tech -14. No unusual injuries or suspensions for Tech or anything else during the week to explain the line movement.
Covers even mentioned this "fake" line movement when discussing line moves for that week.
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Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:
This is the silliest thing i've ever heard
Why would the sharps not just buy the points to where they want it to begin with? Instead of investing all this $ just to make the line move to buy it back the other way at a better line.
If what they want is Giants +3.5 or +3 just buy the points in the first place and place your bet duh
It's not that silly. There was a college football game earlier this season - Nevada vs Texas Tech. The early action moved the line from Texas Tech -20 to -21.5 or something like that.
Then during the week, the money poured in on Nevada. By kickoff, it was Texas Tech -14. No unusual injuries or suspensions for Tech or anything else during the week to explain the line movement.
Covers even mentioned this "fake" line movement when discussing line moves for that week.
Yeah, sportsbooks ARE NOT a revenue generator for casinos.
There is a reason they are always in the back of the casino and sometimes hard to find. They want you to play slots, table games and eat food.
To think casinos would gamble to make money on a certain side is ridiculous. It's all about the juice.
There's a reason why betting exchanges are the most profitable Internet sports betting operations - guaranteed money with minimal risk.
You make it sound like a sportsbook hardly makes any money. Think about this - if sportsbooks truly made no $$$, then why are there sooooooo many illegal local bookies out there?
People offer vice (i.e., drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.) for one reason only: They're insanely profitable.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brent Musburger:
Yeah, sportsbooks ARE NOT a revenue generator for casinos.
There is a reason they are always in the back of the casino and sometimes hard to find. They want you to play slots, table games and eat food.
To think casinos would gamble to make money on a certain side is ridiculous. It's all about the juice.
There's a reason why betting exchanges are the most profitable Internet sports betting operations - guaranteed money with minimal risk.
You make it sound like a sportsbook hardly makes any money. Think about this - if sportsbooks truly made no $$$, then why are there sooooooo many illegal local bookies out there?
People offer vice (i.e., drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.) for one reason only: They're insanely profitable.
You make it sound like a sportsbook hardly makes any money. Think about this - if sportsbooks truly made no $$$, then why are there sooooooo many illegal local bookies out there?
People offer vice (i.e., drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.) for one reason only: They're insanely profitable.
The percentage of revenue from sportsbooks in the casino's is less than 3% of its total revenue.In the scheme of things it means very little to a casino
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Quote Originally Posted by composite:
You make it sound like a sportsbook hardly makes any money. Think about this - if sportsbooks truly made no $$$, then why are there sooooooo many illegal local bookies out there?
People offer vice (i.e., drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.) for one reason only: They're insanely profitable.
The percentage of revenue from sportsbooks in the casino's is less than 3% of its total revenue.In the scheme of things it means very little to a casino
Although they try to get 50-50 on each side it doesnt happend that often.There will be alot of times throughout the year where the books will be on a certain side because of so much action that is one sided.
As far as Casinos,sportsbook is last on their list of revenue with less than 3%.They care about slots,slots,slots and more slots which is guaranteed money!!
keep in mind it is not the actual # of people that matters in moving a line ,
it is the amount of $ placed on each team
ie >> if it says 65% of the public is backing the Pats , what really matters as far as examining the line movement is the 4 or 5 large bets on the Ravens .. this is tricky in making an evaluation on what the line movement really means yes ..
going opposite of what makes sense would be to take the ravens and the 49ers , a lot of times that method is just as true as the common sense method in picking .. of course i like ny and ne
thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:
Although they try to get 50-50 on each side it doesnt happend that often.There will be alot of times throughout the year where the books will be on a certain side because of so much action that is one sided.
As far as Casinos,sportsbook is last on their list of revenue with less than 3%.They care about slots,slots,slots and more slots which is guaranteed money!!
keep in mind it is not the actual # of people that matters in moving a line ,
it is the amount of $ placed on each team
ie >> if it says 65% of the public is backing the Pats , what really matters as far as examining the line movement is the 4 or 5 large bets on the Ravens .. this is tricky in making an evaluation on what the line movement really means yes ..
going opposite of what makes sense would be to take the ravens and the 49ers , a lot of times that method is just as true as the common sense method in picking .. of course i like ny and ne
ok this is how it is... BetCRIS Makes on average the toughest lines out there for the sharp players. They open up @ SF -3 so anyone who likes SF is making the play at a these other places. The guys who like NYG SHOULD ONLY BE BETTING AT BetCRIS & that's what they want because they are the real sharp guys. It's not that tricky pepole just make it that way. IT IS THE 49ers. I hope I could help.
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ok this is how it is... BetCRIS Makes on average the toughest lines out there for the sharp players. They open up @ SF -3 so anyone who likes SF is making the play at a these other places. The guys who like NYG SHOULD ONLY BE BETTING AT BetCRIS & that's what they want because they are the real sharp guys. It's not that tricky pepole just make it that way. IT IS THE 49ers. I hope I could help.
keep in mind it is not the actual # of people that matters in moving a line ,
it is the amount of $ placed on each team
ie >> if it says 65% of the public is backing the Pats , what really matters as far as examining the line movement is the 4 or 5 large bets on the Ravens .. this is tricky in making an evaluation on what the line movement really means yes ..
going opposite of what makes sense would be to take the ravens and the 49ers , a lot of times that method is just as true as the common sense method in picking .. of course i like ny and ne
thanks
Correct the amount of money moves the lines not necessarily the amount of people betting
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeCommish:
keep in mind it is not the actual # of people that matters in moving a line ,
it is the amount of $ placed on each team
ie >> if it says 65% of the public is backing the Pats , what really matters as far as examining the line movement is the 4 or 5 large bets on the Ravens .. this is tricky in making an evaluation on what the line movement really means yes ..
going opposite of what makes sense would be to take the ravens and the 49ers , a lot of times that method is just as true as the common sense method in picking .. of course i like ny and ne
thanks
Correct the amount of money moves the lines not necessarily the amount of people betting
so when someone says they are leery of betting on the pats and giants because the public %s show a higher % on the pats and giants .. what does this really mean ? people in general think the public/higher % shown will be no good more than it cashes ..
what is the true $ result for big books if the public is right on the pats while some so called sharp $ was huge on the ravens ? another words people think siding with the public /higher % shown on who people bet on is a bad idea when really in effect the public had to be right so the huge bets would crash .. ? CRASH , NOT CASH . it could simply be like life , anything can be flipped a hundred ways , you can make 1 simple subject have a room divided and only until the results come in can people say i told u so , always only after the game is over ..
IF THE GIANTS WIN IT WAS A NO BRAINER , IF SF WINS IT WAS A NO BRAINER in all honesty , the saints giftwrapped that game for sf , turnovers . saints are an indoor team , sf winning was a gift and all factors were in their favor , and they still barely pulled out the win . the giants may play turnover free which would make ny an overwhelming fav . sf turned the ball over the least yes , but what ny will bring on d is almost scary to think about ..
sf was ranked 24th going into the season , ny was around 14th . if the pack had won over ny then it would be sf at gb in the nfc title game , no one would give sf a snow balls chance .. and rightfully so .. if the saints hosted the 9ers in the nfc title game , the 9ers would never have won or even been in the game .. special circumstances <<< underline that word .. soooooooooo ? are there more possible special circumstances this sun in sf ? yes , weather and of course as always the turnover scenario .. in effect makign a team look better than they really are .. that little 60 min window of time .. we all know anyone can win .. but who is the RIGHT PLAY ? the play that even if it is a dud ewas the right play ? gotta be NY .
thanks , sorry to ramble and jumble so many different sub in one little box
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so when someone says they are leery of betting on the pats and giants because the public %s show a higher % on the pats and giants .. what does this really mean ? people in general think the public/higher % shown will be no good more than it cashes ..
what is the true $ result for big books if the public is right on the pats while some so called sharp $ was huge on the ravens ? another words people think siding with the public /higher % shown on who people bet on is a bad idea when really in effect the public had to be right so the huge bets would crash .. ? CRASH , NOT CASH . it could simply be like life , anything can be flipped a hundred ways , you can make 1 simple subject have a room divided and only until the results come in can people say i told u so , always only after the game is over ..
IF THE GIANTS WIN IT WAS A NO BRAINER , IF SF WINS IT WAS A NO BRAINER in all honesty , the saints giftwrapped that game for sf , turnovers . saints are an indoor team , sf winning was a gift and all factors were in their favor , and they still barely pulled out the win . the giants may play turnover free which would make ny an overwhelming fav . sf turned the ball over the least yes , but what ny will bring on d is almost scary to think about ..
sf was ranked 24th going into the season , ny was around 14th . if the pack had won over ny then it would be sf at gb in the nfc title game , no one would give sf a snow balls chance .. and rightfully so .. if the saints hosted the 9ers in the nfc title game , the 9ers would never have won or even been in the game .. special circumstances <<< underline that word .. soooooooooo ? are there more possible special circumstances this sun in sf ? yes , weather and of course as always the turnover scenario .. in effect makign a team look better than they really are .. that little 60 min window of time .. we all know anyone can win .. but who is the RIGHT PLAY ? the play that even if it is a dud ewas the right play ? gotta be NY .
thanks , sorry to ramble and jumble so many different sub in one little box
so when someone says they are leery of betting on the pats and giants because the public %s show a higher % on the pats and giants .. what does this really mean ? people in general think the public/higher % shown will be no good more than it cashes ..
what is the true $ result for big books if the public is right on the pats while some so called sharp $ was huge on the ravens ? another words people think siding with the public /higher % shown on who people bet on is a bad idea when really in effect the public had to be right so the huge bets would crash .. ? CRASH , NOT CASH . it could simply be like life , anything can be flipped a hundred ways , you can make 1 simple subject have a room divided and only until the results come in can people say i told u so , always only after the game is over ..
IF THE GIANTS WIN IT WAS A NO BRAINER , IF SF WINS IT WAS A NO BRAINER in all honesty , the saints giftwrapped that game for sf , turnovers . saints are an indoor team , sf winning was a gift and all factors were in their favor , and they still barely pulled out the win . the giants may play turnover free which would make ny an overwhelming fav . sf turned the ball over the least yes , but what ny will bring on d is almost scary to think about ..
sf was ranked 24th going into the season , ny was around 14th . if the pack had won over ny then it would be sf at gb in the nfc title game , no one would give sf a snow balls chance .. and rightfully so .. if the saints hosted the 9ers in the nfc title game , the 9ers would never have won or even been in the game .. special circumstances <<< underline that word .. soooooooooo ? are there more possible special circumstances this sun in sf ? yes , weather and of course as always the turnover scenario .. in effect makign a team look better than they really are .. that little 60 min window of time .. we all know anyone can win .. but who is the RIGHT PLAY ? the play that even if it is a dud ewas the right play ? gotta be NY .
thanks , sorry to ramble and jumble so many different sub in one little box
LOL Yiou say NY defense is scary.Well SF defense is better than NY so what does that make SF defense REAL SCARY!
Also lets not forget if the PACK dont gift wrap 4 turnovers for NY prolly wouldnt have won also NY did fumble the ball 3 times but got back all 3 fumbles.You think if they played again the PACK is gonna play like that??Same as you say with NO?To be fair gotta look at it both ways
That being said you cant say if this didnt .if that didnt happend and so on.It did they won the game.
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeCommish:
so when someone says they are leery of betting on the pats and giants because the public %s show a higher % on the pats and giants .. what does this really mean ? people in general think the public/higher % shown will be no good more than it cashes ..
what is the true $ result for big books if the public is right on the pats while some so called sharp $ was huge on the ravens ? another words people think siding with the public /higher % shown on who people bet on is a bad idea when really in effect the public had to be right so the huge bets would crash .. ? CRASH , NOT CASH . it could simply be like life , anything can be flipped a hundred ways , you can make 1 simple subject have a room divided and only until the results come in can people say i told u so , always only after the game is over ..
IF THE GIANTS WIN IT WAS A NO BRAINER , IF SF WINS IT WAS A NO BRAINER in all honesty , the saints giftwrapped that game for sf , turnovers . saints are an indoor team , sf winning was a gift and all factors were in their favor , and they still barely pulled out the win . the giants may play turnover free which would make ny an overwhelming fav . sf turned the ball over the least yes , but what ny will bring on d is almost scary to think about ..
sf was ranked 24th going into the season , ny was around 14th . if the pack had won over ny then it would be sf at gb in the nfc title game , no one would give sf a snow balls chance .. and rightfully so .. if the saints hosted the 9ers in the nfc title game , the 9ers would never have won or even been in the game .. special circumstances <<< underline that word .. soooooooooo ? are there more possible special circumstances this sun in sf ? yes , weather and of course as always the turnover scenario .. in effect makign a team look better than they really are .. that little 60 min window of time .. we all know anyone can win .. but who is the RIGHT PLAY ? the play that even if it is a dud ewas the right play ? gotta be NY .
thanks , sorry to ramble and jumble so many different sub in one little box
LOL Yiou say NY defense is scary.Well SF defense is better than NY so what does that make SF defense REAL SCARY!
Also lets not forget if the PACK dont gift wrap 4 turnovers for NY prolly wouldnt have won also NY did fumble the ball 3 times but got back all 3 fumbles.You think if they played again the PACK is gonna play like that??Same as you say with NO?To be fair gotta look at it both ways
That being said you cant say if this didnt .if that didnt happend and so on.It did they won the game.
i did that to put the teams in perspective , putting all possible facts together and coming up with the most probable result . we know sf at gb would be gb all day , we sure would think gb would win .. yes ? there would be nothing to suggest otherwise .. the thing about looking at a teams ranking on offensive and d can be a total misrepresentation of what will truly occur in said game . the styles of offense teams run ans what they are wiiling to give up in each game , who the opponent is .. the team ranking on d and o can be quite false in what will occur when they are cfacing another opponent . they only play 16 reg season games .. is not really a large enough profile to know what will occur in said upcoming game .. same reason that a guy picking 16 games and showing a great record has nothing to do with how good he really is when faced with different matchups in the future .. upcoming game
the gameplan by one team can dictate how the other team has to play , a team gives up plenty of passing yards because they r way up in the game or comfortably in the lead .. all that is bs stats that do not tell the true story .. is sf d better than ny ? of course not .. it is all just wordplay man .. is ny d better than sf d right now ? i wont say yes to that but i would take ny d all day if i had that choice of buying the players for my own team .. sf broguth in around 9 new faces on d at the start of the season .. so they coudl be the future , but we are in the NOW . THE ONLY FACTOR IN SF FAVOR IS >>> the easy coast to west coast thing but they dont play at 1 so its not like it is really 10 am in ny or anything ..
sf qb vs ny qb = sad
ny recievers all day
ny rbs all day .. soooo ? i dont get why people would try and make it like sf is the better team .
experience ? sad for sf , all ny man
playing contrarian would be to take sf .. and of course they could win as with any game in any sport 24/7/365 but the right play is ny given all the info , fact you can get +3 is really a no brainer .. montana is not on the field , young isint either .. GARCIA ? ahhh now that was an awesome comeback he pulled for sf in the 4th q beating the gmen .. no way that could happen with this giant d and supporting cast all the way around for ny .. it will be something to see .. if sf wins then it will be no different than all the other contrarian picks that are $ every day of the year in every sport ..
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i did that to put the teams in perspective , putting all possible facts together and coming up with the most probable result . we know sf at gb would be gb all day , we sure would think gb would win .. yes ? there would be nothing to suggest otherwise .. the thing about looking at a teams ranking on offensive and d can be a total misrepresentation of what will truly occur in said game . the styles of offense teams run ans what they are wiiling to give up in each game , who the opponent is .. the team ranking on d and o can be quite false in what will occur when they are cfacing another opponent . they only play 16 reg season games .. is not really a large enough profile to know what will occur in said upcoming game .. same reason that a guy picking 16 games and showing a great record has nothing to do with how good he really is when faced with different matchups in the future .. upcoming game
the gameplan by one team can dictate how the other team has to play , a team gives up plenty of passing yards because they r way up in the game or comfortably in the lead .. all that is bs stats that do not tell the true story .. is sf d better than ny ? of course not .. it is all just wordplay man .. is ny d better than sf d right now ? i wont say yes to that but i would take ny d all day if i had that choice of buying the players for my own team .. sf broguth in around 9 new faces on d at the start of the season .. so they coudl be the future , but we are in the NOW . THE ONLY FACTOR IN SF FAVOR IS >>> the easy coast to west coast thing but they dont play at 1 so its not like it is really 10 am in ny or anything ..
sf qb vs ny qb = sad
ny recievers all day
ny rbs all day .. soooo ? i dont get why people would try and make it like sf is the better team .
experience ? sad for sf , all ny man
playing contrarian would be to take sf .. and of course they could win as with any game in any sport 24/7/365 but the right play is ny given all the info , fact you can get +3 is really a no brainer .. montana is not on the field , young isint either .. GARCIA ? ahhh now that was an awesome comeback he pulled for sf in the 4th q beating the gmen .. no way that could happen with this giant d and supporting cast all the way around for ny .. it will be something to see .. if sf wins then it will be no different than all the other contrarian picks that are $ every day of the year in every sport ..
i did that to put the teams in perspective , putting all possible facts together and coming up with the most probable result . we know sf at gb would be gb all day , we sure would think gb would win .. yes ? there would be nothing to suggest otherwise .. the thing about looking at a teams ranking on offensive and d can be a total misrepresentation of what will truly occur in said game . the styles of offense teams run ans what they are wiiling to give up in each game , who the opponent is .. the team ranking on d and o can be quite false in what will occur when they are cfacing another opponent . they only play 16 reg season games .. is not really a large enough profile to know what will occur in said upcoming game .. same reason that a guy picking 16 games and showing a great record has nothing to do with how good he really is when faced with different matchups in the future .. upcoming game
the gameplan by one team can dictate how the other team has to play , a team gives up plenty of passing yards because they r way up in the game or comfortably in the lead .. all that is bs stats that do not tell the true story .. is sf d better than ny ? of course not .. it is all just wordplay man .. is ny d better than sf d right now ? i wont say yes to that but i would take ny d all day if i had that choice of buying the players for my own team .. sf broguth in around 9 new faces on d at the start of the season .. so they coudl be the future , but we are in the NOW . THE ONLY FACTOR IN SF FAVOR IS >>> the easy coast to west coast thing but they dont play at 1 so its not like it is really 10 am in ny or anything ..
sf qb vs ny qb = sad
ny recievers all day
ny rbs all day .. soooo ? i dont get why people would try and make it like sf is the better team .
experience ? sad for sf , all ny man
playing contrarian would be to take sf .. and of course they could win as with any game in any sport 24/7/365 but the right play is ny given all the info , fact you can get +3 is really a no brainer .. montana is not on the field , young isint either .. GARCIA ? ahhh now that was an awesome comeback he pulled for sf in the 4th q beating the gmen .. no way that could happen with this giant d and supporting cast all the way around for ny .. it will be something to see .. if sf wins then it will be no different than all the other contrarian picks that are $ every day of the year in every sport ..
Um now go to the other 10 catagories you left out where SF has the advantage.
Special teams,linebackers etc....???
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeCommish:
i did that to put the teams in perspective , putting all possible facts together and coming up with the most probable result . we know sf at gb would be gb all day , we sure would think gb would win .. yes ? there would be nothing to suggest otherwise .. the thing about looking at a teams ranking on offensive and d can be a total misrepresentation of what will truly occur in said game . the styles of offense teams run ans what they are wiiling to give up in each game , who the opponent is .. the team ranking on d and o can be quite false in what will occur when they are cfacing another opponent . they only play 16 reg season games .. is not really a large enough profile to know what will occur in said upcoming game .. same reason that a guy picking 16 games and showing a great record has nothing to do with how good he really is when faced with different matchups in the future .. upcoming game
the gameplan by one team can dictate how the other team has to play , a team gives up plenty of passing yards because they r way up in the game or comfortably in the lead .. all that is bs stats that do not tell the true story .. is sf d better than ny ? of course not .. it is all just wordplay man .. is ny d better than sf d right now ? i wont say yes to that but i would take ny d all day if i had that choice of buying the players for my own team .. sf broguth in around 9 new faces on d at the start of the season .. so they coudl be the future , but we are in the NOW . THE ONLY FACTOR IN SF FAVOR IS >>> the easy coast to west coast thing but they dont play at 1 so its not like it is really 10 am in ny or anything ..
sf qb vs ny qb = sad
ny recievers all day
ny rbs all day .. soooo ? i dont get why people would try and make it like sf is the better team .
experience ? sad for sf , all ny man
playing contrarian would be to take sf .. and of course they could win as with any game in any sport 24/7/365 but the right play is ny given all the info , fact you can get +3 is really a no brainer .. montana is not on the field , young isint either .. GARCIA ? ahhh now that was an awesome comeback he pulled for sf in the 4th q beating the gmen .. no way that could happen with this giant d and supporting cast all the way around for ny .. it will be something to see .. if sf wins then it will be no different than all the other contrarian picks that are $ every day of the year in every sport ..
Um now go to the other 10 catagories you left out where SF has the advantage.
Um now go to the other 10 catagories you left out where SF has the advantage.
Special teams,linebackers etc....???
good feedback man , true if they run a couple kicks/punts back and force ny to fumble on ny returns then yes that would be the x factor and sf would have a very great chance of getting the w .. now could it be by 1 pt or 2 pts ? nwo that is funny right , we never really expect a 1 or 2 pt marging on victory yet it can so easily occur .. but yes the special teams can be huge ! you right the linebackers do seem to stick out more for sf .. in baseball we put a lot of emphasis on the starting pitcher .. so in football we have smith vs manning ? that is sorta like happ vs pedro , but the scenario is both are in their prime .
the whole story in how you gauge it ? you have to look at it in the NOW . really what the giants did in the reg season is more than irrelevant because of injs , like to the 150th power it is useless info .. most people look at the reg season in how they place value in a team .. in realtime ? you have a team and i am one of your best players , couple others are breat too but we are inj and not playing .. sooo ? just wait til i get back in there right and the other key guys .. then look at us . look at what we have done since we got all our players back man !
well we are not in the reg season and all the ny giants are healthy , just because they are playing in sf , people bite , take the bait . if it was in ny , the line would be around 7 , if it wasnt it should be .. if the line came out nyg - 2 , this would plant a seed in peoples heads that hey , the giants are really a better team than sf is , see they are favored .. true meaning ? is irrelevant . most will take the team because they see a minus pts b ythe team , so they should win right , seeeee , they are the fav .. come on man .
yes it all comes down to what happens in that small window of time on the field , esp with the zebras .. but lets take it to the truest of levels of what will occur sunday >>>> 1 fav wins and one dog is good , 1 home and 1 away . nough said GL to all
1 fav 1 dog = 1 home and one away i would bank on it
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Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:
Um now go to the other 10 catagories you left out where SF has the advantage.
Special teams,linebackers etc....???
good feedback man , true if they run a couple kicks/punts back and force ny to fumble on ny returns then yes that would be the x factor and sf would have a very great chance of getting the w .. now could it be by 1 pt or 2 pts ? nwo that is funny right , we never really expect a 1 or 2 pt marging on victory yet it can so easily occur .. but yes the special teams can be huge ! you right the linebackers do seem to stick out more for sf .. in baseball we put a lot of emphasis on the starting pitcher .. so in football we have smith vs manning ? that is sorta like happ vs pedro , but the scenario is both are in their prime .
the whole story in how you gauge it ? you have to look at it in the NOW . really what the giants did in the reg season is more than irrelevant because of injs , like to the 150th power it is useless info .. most people look at the reg season in how they place value in a team .. in realtime ? you have a team and i am one of your best players , couple others are breat too but we are inj and not playing .. sooo ? just wait til i get back in there right and the other key guys .. then look at us . look at what we have done since we got all our players back man !
well we are not in the reg season and all the ny giants are healthy , just because they are playing in sf , people bite , take the bait . if it was in ny , the line would be around 7 , if it wasnt it should be .. if the line came out nyg - 2 , this would plant a seed in peoples heads that hey , the giants are really a better team than sf is , see they are favored .. true meaning ? is irrelevant . most will take the team because they see a minus pts b ythe team , so they should win right , seeeee , they are the fav .. come on man .
yes it all comes down to what happens in that small window of time on the field , esp with the zebras .. but lets take it to the truest of levels of what will occur sunday >>>> 1 fav wins and one dog is good , 1 home and 1 away . nough said GL to all
1 fav 1 dog = 1 home and one away i would bank on it
good feedback man , true if they run a couple kicks/punts back and force ny to fumble on ny returns then yes that would be the x factor and sf would have a very great chance of getting the w .. now could it be by 1 pt or 2 pts ? nwo that is funny right , we never really expect a 1 or 2 pt marging on victory yet it can so easily occur .. but yes the special teams can be huge ! you right the linebackers do seem to stick out more for sf .. in baseball we put a lot of emphasis on the starting pitcher .. so in football we have smith vs manning ? that is sorta like happ vs pedro , but the scenario is both are in their prime .
the whole story in how you gauge it ? you have to look at it in the NOW . really what the giants did in the reg season is more than irrelevant because of injs , like to the 150th power it is useless info .. most people look at the reg season in how they place value in a team .. in realtime ? you have a team and i am one of your best players , couple others are breat too but we are inj and not playing .. sooo ? just wait til i get back in there right and the other key guys .. then look at us . look at what we have done since we got all our players back man !
well we are not in the reg season and all the ny giants are healthy , just because they are playing in sf , people bite , take the bait . if it was in ny , the line would be around 7 , if it wasnt it should be .. if the line came out nyg - 2 , this would plant a seed in peoples heads that hey , the giants are really a better team than sf is , see they are favored .. true meaning ? is irrelevant . most will take the team because they see a minus pts b ythe team , so they should win right , seeeee , they are the fav .. come on man .
yes it all comes down to what happens in that small window of time on the field , esp with the zebras .. but lets take it to the truest of levels of what will occur sunday >>>> 1 fav wins and one dog is good , 1 home and 1 away . nough said GL to all
1 fav 1 dog = 1 home and one away i would bank on it
In reality what happend the last game doesnt matter either as we have seen!I
And most people wont and are not taking SF JUST because they are FAVORED LOL that just ridiculous!!
Devils advicate to your see they are fav that means they are gonna win!!The Giants beat the superbowl champs,are rolling and are getting points gotta take them how could they lose!!And yes the Giants are getting more action than SF
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeCommish:
good feedback man , true if they run a couple kicks/punts back and force ny to fumble on ny returns then yes that would be the x factor and sf would have a very great chance of getting the w .. now could it be by 1 pt or 2 pts ? nwo that is funny right , we never really expect a 1 or 2 pt marging on victory yet it can so easily occur .. but yes the special teams can be huge ! you right the linebackers do seem to stick out more for sf .. in baseball we put a lot of emphasis on the starting pitcher .. so in football we have smith vs manning ? that is sorta like happ vs pedro , but the scenario is both are in their prime .
the whole story in how you gauge it ? you have to look at it in the NOW . really what the giants did in the reg season is more than irrelevant because of injs , like to the 150th power it is useless info .. most people look at the reg season in how they place value in a team .. in realtime ? you have a team and i am one of your best players , couple others are breat too but we are inj and not playing .. sooo ? just wait til i get back in there right and the other key guys .. then look at us . look at what we have done since we got all our players back man !
well we are not in the reg season and all the ny giants are healthy , just because they are playing in sf , people bite , take the bait . if it was in ny , the line would be around 7 , if it wasnt it should be .. if the line came out nyg - 2 , this would plant a seed in peoples heads that hey , the giants are really a better team than sf is , see they are favored .. true meaning ? is irrelevant . most will take the team because they see a minus pts b ythe team , so they should win right , seeeee , they are the fav .. come on man .
yes it all comes down to what happens in that small window of time on the field , esp with the zebras .. but lets take it to the truest of levels of what will occur sunday >>>> 1 fav wins and one dog is good , 1 home and 1 away . nough said GL to all
1 fav 1 dog = 1 home and one away i would bank on it
In reality what happend the last game doesnt matter either as we have seen!I
And most people wont and are not taking SF JUST because they are FAVORED LOL that just ridiculous!!
Devils advicate to your see they are fav that means they are gonna win!!The Giants beat the superbowl champs,are rolling and are getting points gotta take them how could they lose!!And yes the Giants are getting more action than SF
manning is def going to have to air it out .. personally i like jacobs and bradshaw . the stats for the reg season are not a guide to what will happen in a future game .. stop living in the past !!! come out into the light in the here and now . that was then this is now is a slogan you should live by . come out of the past , here ye here ye !! game is a tossup , but all i conveyed is also simple common sense if you watch the games year after year .. you have to figure in that the players will bring their A game , reg season the teams underestimate and play down to their level of comp and can mess up .. in crunch time the players as well as the caching staff go all out .. so who do you trust more eli or alex ?
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manning is def going to have to air it out .. personally i like jacobs and bradshaw . the stats for the reg season are not a guide to what will happen in a future game .. stop living in the past !!! come out into the light in the here and now . that was then this is now is a slogan you should live by . come out of the past , here ye here ye !! game is a tossup , but all i conveyed is also simple common sense if you watch the games year after year .. you have to figure in that the players will bring their A game , reg season the teams underestimate and play down to their level of comp and can mess up .. in crunch time the players as well as the caching staff go all out .. so who do you trust more eli or alex ?
In reality what happend the last game doesnt matter either as we have seen!I
And most people wont and are not taking SF JUST because they are FAVORED LOL that just ridiculous!!
Devils advicate to your see they are fav that means they are gonna win!!The Giants beat the superbowl champs,are rolling and are getting points gotta take them how could they lose!!And yes the Giants are getting more action than SF
the higher %s of who people bet on as shown on the net always is the public backs the majority of favs .. never changes . there are always exceptions to the rule but overall the public backs the team with the minus on it . you joking right ? i was speaking in general .. public = favs are you new to this ?
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Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:
In reality what happend the last game doesnt matter either as we have seen!I
And most people wont and are not taking SF JUST because they are FAVORED LOL that just ridiculous!!
Devils advicate to your see they are fav that means they are gonna win!!The Giants beat the superbowl champs,are rolling and are getting points gotta take them how could they lose!!And yes the Giants are getting more action than SF
the higher %s of who people bet on as shown on the net always is the public backs the majority of favs .. never changes . there are always exceptions to the rule but overall the public backs the team with the minus on it . you joking right ? i was speaking in general .. public = favs are you new to this ?
i was saying the spread in this game is most likely not relevant but that many people , thousands would be INFLUENCED BY WHO THE FAV WAS , it is subliminal if not just downright people believe what they see at face value .. come on man ! this rule does not have to apply to every single game in history but is a simple reflection of the human reaction to taking things at face value and buying into hype .. you may buy the more expensive product because of the ads and it cost more when in reality it is the same as the cheap model with no hype .. come on man !
the power of sugestion is as strong as any power ever known to man , some people just wont admit it or recognize it .. why do you think we have to sit through 500 commercials every day . you may not be keen and wise enough to know what is going on when they are talking about pizza hut pan pizza in the background but when you look up you just might say , hey baby lets order some pizza .. come on man !!! subconscious my brother , just as strong as the conscience , you may still be in the womb . it takes time and good influence to take it to another level , no matter what the subject .. time brother .
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i was saying the spread in this game is most likely not relevant but that many people , thousands would be INFLUENCED BY WHO THE FAV WAS , it is subliminal if not just downright people believe what they see at face value .. come on man ! this rule does not have to apply to every single game in history but is a simple reflection of the human reaction to taking things at face value and buying into hype .. you may buy the more expensive product because of the ads and it cost more when in reality it is the same as the cheap model with no hype .. come on man !
the power of sugestion is as strong as any power ever known to man , some people just wont admit it or recognize it .. why do you think we have to sit through 500 commercials every day . you may not be keen and wise enough to know what is going on when they are talking about pizza hut pan pizza in the background but when you look up you just might say , hey baby lets order some pizza .. come on man !!! subconscious my brother , just as strong as the conscience , you may still be in the womb . it takes time and good influence to take it to another level , no matter what the subject .. time brother .
manning is def going to have to air it out .. personally i like jacobs and bradshaw . the stats for the reg season are not a guide to what will happen in a future game .. stop living in the past !!! come out into the light in the here and now . that was then this is now is a slogan you should live by . come out of the past , here ye here ye !! game is a tossup , but all i conveyed is also simple common sense if you watch the games year after year .. you have to figure in that the players will bring their A game , reg season the teams underestimate and play down to their level of comp and can mess up .. in crunch time the players as well as the caching staff go all out .. so who do you trust more eli or alex ?
eli or alex...here's a prop for you,
Will Manning throw int.......... -215
Will Alex smith throw int ...... +105
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Quote Originally Posted by LakeCommish:
manning is def going to have to air it out .. personally i like jacobs and bradshaw . the stats for the reg season are not a guide to what will happen in a future game .. stop living in the past !!! come out into the light in the here and now . that was then this is now is a slogan you should live by . come out of the past , here ye here ye !! game is a tossup , but all i conveyed is also simple common sense if you watch the games year after year .. you have to figure in that the players will bring their A game , reg season the teams underestimate and play down to their level of comp and can mess up .. in crunch time the players as well as the caching staff go all out .. so who do you trust more eli or alex ?
Lakecommish come on man and sub consciuosly the public is thinking how are the Giants getting pts and jumoing on them.Are u new to this.always 2ways to look at this
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Lakecommish come on man and sub consciuosly the public is thinking how are the Giants getting pts and jumoing on them.Are u new to this.always 2ways to look at this
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in all honesty , the saints giftwrapped that game for sf , turnovers . saints are an indoor team , sf winning was a gift and all factors were in their favor , and they still barely pulled out the win . the giants may play turnover free which would make ny an overwhelming fav . sf turned the ball over the least yes , but what ny will bring on d is almost scary to think about .. 
game is a tossup , but all i conveyed is also simple common sense if you watch the games year after year .. you have to figure in that the players will bring their A game , reg season the teams underestimate and play down to their level of comp and can mess up .. in crunch time the players as well as the caching staff go all out .. so who do you trust more 
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