Have not watched much of the Cardinals but I am leaning Seahawks in this tossup battle for the division lead. They came very close against the Rams, and should have won. They then got a gutsy win against the Niners to get themselves back in the division race. All that work will be undone if they lose a 5th straight at home. They are also the team that is a game behind, the crowd should be fired up.
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Cardinals have won 4 straight
Seahawks have lost 4 straight…at home.
Have not watched much of the Cardinals but I am leaning Seahawks in this tossup battle for the division lead. They came very close against the Rams, and should have won. They then got a gutsy win against the Niners to get themselves back in the division race. All that work will be undone if they lose a 5th straight at home. They are also the team that is a game behind, the crowd should be fired up.
Tough game to cap, I actually agree with AM on this one. Think they could skip ahead to last 5 minutes for the winner to be decided. I like HT dogs and there's 8 this weekend including 3 division games, got my name written all over it. Of course, you can always pick the wrong ones too, ha! GL BB!
"I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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Tough game to cap, I actually agree with AM on this one. Think they could skip ahead to last 5 minutes for the winner to be decided. I like HT dogs and there's 8 this weekend including 3 division games, got my name written all over it. Of course, you can always pick the wrong ones too, ha! GL BB!
I like the Cardinals. They have a strong rushing game that's 2nd in the league at 5.2 YPR. This shouldn't be a surprise, as they had a strong rushing game last season. Seattle's Rushing D is 25th in the league, yielding 4.8 yards a pop. That's the kind of defense that the Cardinals will annihilate. The Cardinals are tough. They've improved in every facet of the game from last season. With Murray back in action, their offense is deadly. They'll handle the Seahawks.
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I like the Cardinals. They have a strong rushing game that's 2nd in the league at 5.2 YPR. This shouldn't be a surprise, as they had a strong rushing game last season. Seattle's Rushing D is 25th in the league, yielding 4.8 yards a pop. That's the kind of defense that the Cardinals will annihilate. The Cardinals are tough. They've improved in every facet of the game from last season. With Murray back in action, their offense is deadly. They'll handle the Seahawks.
Superbook released at a pick, and it went Seattle -1 immediately. Money is on Zone Caesar’s and mgm have had to move to zona -1 multiple times already. From what I understand, and have heard the money is on zona, but everytime it goes Seattle +1 a respected player takes Seattle.
idk. I guess I’ll just quote superbook on this. “The Cardinals will attract the most bets. I would be shocked if we didn’t need Seattle by kickoff," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.
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I’ve been following this line.
Superbook released at a pick, and it went Seattle -1 immediately. Money is on Zone Caesar’s and mgm have had to move to zona -1 multiple times already. From what I understand, and have heard the money is on zona, but everytime it goes Seattle +1 a respected player takes Seattle.
idk. I guess I’ll just quote superbook on this. “The Cardinals will attract the most bets. I would be shocked if we didn’t need Seattle by kickoff," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.
The question for me is who is the better team here.
Yes, the Cardinals has won 1 more game than the Seahawks.
Seattle has played 2 games without Kenneth Walker (won both), and 2 games without DK Metcalf (both home losses).
Arizona’s core of Murray, Conner, Harrison Jr., and McBride have missed a total of one game this season.
Arizona is off two blowout wins against the Jets who despite the talent are 3-8, and the Bears who have lost 4 games in a row. The wins look nice on paper, but are those good teams?
Let’s just say for the sake of argument that Arizona is the better team here.
My question is, how much better is Arizona than Seattle? A lot better or a little better?
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The question for me is who is the better team here.
Yes, the Cardinals has won 1 more game than the Seahawks.
Seattle has played 2 games without Kenneth Walker (won both), and 2 games without DK Metcalf (both home losses).
Arizona’s core of Murray, Conner, Harrison Jr., and McBride have missed a total of one game this season.
Arizona is off two blowout wins against the Jets who despite the talent are 3-8, and the Bears who have lost 4 games in a row. The wins look nice on paper, but are those good teams?
Let’s just say for the sake of argument that Arizona is the better team here.
My question is, how much better is Arizona than Seattle? A lot better or a little better?
I think Hawks got their mojo back with a big win @SFO and they’ll end their home losing streak by beating the Cards
That’s my thinking as well. This game is not gonna be played on paper, where Cards have all the advantages and are flying high coming in with a win streak. They are coming into play a salty Seattle team that has had to persevere to get to .500 and have done so even after dropping 4 straight at home! Now they not only have a chance to end that ugly streak but also sit atop the division with a win.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:
I think Hawks got their mojo back with a big win @SFO and they’ll end their home losing streak by beating the Cards
That’s my thinking as well. This game is not gonna be played on paper, where Cards have all the advantages and are flying high coming in with a win streak. They are coming into play a salty Seattle team that has had to persevere to get to .500 and have done so even after dropping 4 straight at home! Now they not only have a chance to end that ugly streak but also sit atop the division with a win.
I’ve been following this line. Superbook released at a pick, and it went Seattle -1 immediately. Money is on Zone Caesar’s and mgm have had to move to zona -1 multiple times already. From what I understand, and have heard the money is on zona, but everytime it goes Seattle +1 a respected player takes Seattle. idk. I guess I’ll just quote superbook on this. “The Cardinals will attract the most bets. I would be shocked if we didn’t need Seattle by kickoff," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.
Been tracking the line since Sunday night. From what I've seen, Seattle opened at -1, then Arizona went to pickem or -1, now it's mixed. I'd say most places have Seattle -1.5 right now with extra juce on AZ. Caesars has it at pickem with juice on Seattle, and MGM is the lone book with Pickem ML -110 or Arizona -1.
So from what I've seen, the line is moving in Seattle's direction early in the week.
I don't think the line will matter either way who is eventually the -1 or -1.5 or -2.5 here, as long as it's not hitting the key -3/+3 number. The ML on either side is pretty much pickem, unlike the GB/SF game where SF ML is +120.
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Quote Originally Posted by Weeds1079:
I’ve been following this line. Superbook released at a pick, and it went Seattle -1 immediately. Money is on Zone Caesar’s and mgm have had to move to zona -1 multiple times already. From what I understand, and have heard the money is on zona, but everytime it goes Seattle +1 a respected player takes Seattle. idk. I guess I’ll just quote superbook on this. “The Cardinals will attract the most bets. I would be shocked if we didn’t need Seattle by kickoff," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.
Been tracking the line since Sunday night. From what I've seen, Seattle opened at -1, then Arizona went to pickem or -1, now it's mixed. I'd say most places have Seattle -1.5 right now with extra juce on AZ. Caesars has it at pickem with juice on Seattle, and MGM is the lone book with Pickem ML -110 or Arizona -1.
So from what I've seen, the line is moving in Seattle's direction early in the week.
I don't think the line will matter either way who is eventually the -1 or -1.5 or -2.5 here, as long as it's not hitting the key -3/+3 number. The ML on either side is pretty much pickem, unlike the GB/SF game where SF ML is +120.
Geno had one game winning drive last week. I bet he doesn’t have him in him to do it two games in a row. Like Sac said. AZ playing great football and off a bye week. Seattle put everything into that Niners game and it was a heavily depleted Niners team. Kyler Murray is a better QB than Purdy and has a better team right now imo.
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Geno had one game winning drive last week. I bet he doesn’t have him in him to do it two games in a row. Like Sac said. AZ playing great football and off a bye week. Seattle put everything into that Niners game and it was a heavily depleted Niners team. Kyler Murray is a better QB than Purdy and has a better team right now imo.
po:points<=10 and ppo:points<=10 and 29<=p:points and 29<=pp:points and A teams who have beat the crap out of teams two games in a row and now travel are not good bets. 4-18 ATS1-15 ATS since 1997 could be a bad spot for Arizona who might be getting overvalued here Bills were in this spot back in week 4 against Balt and lost 35-10
I like that trend! It fits my narrative of an overconfident Cardinals team coming into Seattle thinking they are much better than they actually are. SF was waxing them at home before they had a complete meltdown and let the Cards back in. And destroying a bad Jets team that has quit on their season and a Chicago team experiencing a hangover from an unfortunate Hail Mary that halted their progress, momentum and good vibes is not what we should be using to measure the “greatness” of the Cardinals.
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Quote Originally Posted by jefff:
po:points<=10 and ppo:points<=10 and 29<=p:points and 29<=pp:points and A teams who have beat the crap out of teams two games in a row and now travel are not good bets. 4-18 ATS1-15 ATS since 1997 could be a bad spot for Arizona who might be getting overvalued here Bills were in this spot back in week 4 against Balt and lost 35-10
I like that trend! It fits my narrative of an overconfident Cardinals team coming into Seattle thinking they are much better than they actually are. SF was waxing them at home before they had a complete meltdown and let the Cards back in. And destroying a bad Jets team that has quit on their season and a Chicago team experiencing a hangover from an unfortunate Hail Mary that halted their progress, momentum and good vibes is not what we should be using to measure the “greatness” of the Cardinals.
There's a guy on youtube that's mentioned multiple times that the "Off a Bye Week" angle is a fictional strength.
Yes, there are famous coaches that do really well off bye weeks. I think it's like Andy Reid and John Harbaugh.
But according to the data, most teams are under .500 ATS coming off their bye week. Colin Cowherd mentions "off a bye" all the time. It's an old school mentality, like people who say you need to change your oil every 3,000 miles.
IT'S NOT TRUE! But it's so baked into gambler's mindsets, that they'll never shake it. You'll be hearing off a bye week as a positive til the end of time.
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There's a guy on youtube that's mentioned multiple times that the "Off a Bye Week" angle is a fictional strength.
Yes, there are famous coaches that do really well off bye weeks. I think it's like Andy Reid and John Harbaugh.
But according to the data, most teams are under .500 ATS coming off their bye week. Colin Cowherd mentions "off a bye" all the time. It's an old school mentality, like people who say you need to change your oil every 3,000 miles.
IT'S NOT TRUE! But it's so baked into gambler's mindsets, that they'll never shake it. You'll be hearing off a bye week as a positive til the end of time.
Seattle > -16.5" true" pt differential @ home last 3 , def 31 ppg ave in those 3..They're done..stick a fork in em
Not to be a smartass Wizer, but If Seattle is "done" as you say, why do you need to tease Arizona up to +8 and couple them with SF +8 in a teaser, rather than just playing Arizona straight up?
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:
Seattle > -16.5" true" pt differential @ home last 3 , def 31 ppg ave in those 3..They're done..stick a fork in em
Not to be a smartass Wizer, but If Seattle is "done" as you say, why do you need to tease Arizona up to +8 and couple them with SF +8 in a teaser, rather than just playing Arizona straight up?
The bye week is just one element of capping, still need to look at everything, it's not an automatic play, anyone thinks that is really naive. Main thing I look for are of course injuries, any key players healed and coming back. Rest can do a body good. But really other than that, it's a game like any other, capped on its merits.
"I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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The bye week is just one element of capping, still need to look at everything, it's not an automatic play, anyone thinks that is really naive. Main thing I look for are of course injuries, any key players healed and coming back. Rest can do a body good. But really other than that, it's a game like any other, capped on its merits.
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