Packers haven't played that well either, they don't have a single W against a team with winning record and they haven't really crushed any oppnent, even my crappy 49ers were in the game until the last quarter against them.
That luck argument is exactly what will make all the cash go to the Packers, but in reality they haven't been playing very well either, bad running game, banged up WR corps, bad D, it's all on Rodgers.
Calm down with the bad D they defiantly are not great and have had some bad games but are still leading the NFL in the least points allowed per game.
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Quote Originally Posted by BayAreaVic:
Packers haven't played that well either, they don't have a single W against a team with winning record and they haven't really crushed any oppnent, even my crappy 49ers were in the game until the last quarter against them.
That luck argument is exactly what will make all the cash go to the Packers, but in reality they haven't been playing very well either, bad running game, banged up WR corps, bad D, it's all on Rodgers.
Calm down with the bad D they defiantly are not great and have had some bad games but are still leading the NFL in the least points allowed per game.
Never in my life have I seen a 6-0 team that could easily be 1-5.
Luck runs out this week.
Love your thoughts here. The Broncos in my opinion are now the most fraudulent undefeated team now that the Falcons were exposed by New Orleans.
Peyton Manning throws wounded ducks. Rodgers throws darts. Eddie "BIG TURD" Lacy will need to show up and inflict punishment on the Broncos D that way Rodgers can slice and dice the defense easier.
I'm riding Packers on this one!
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Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:
Packers will be my biggest play of the year.
Never in my life have I seen a 6-0 team that could easily be 1-5.
Luck runs out this week.
Love your thoughts here. The Broncos in my opinion are now the most fraudulent undefeated team now that the Falcons were exposed by New Orleans.
Peyton Manning throws wounded ducks. Rodgers throws darts. Eddie "BIG TURD" Lacy will need to show up and inflict punishment on the Broncos D that way Rodgers can slice and dice the defense easier.
I like the home dog. That Denver defense is nasty.
almost everyone will be on the Packers on the thought that the Broncos have been one lucky son of a bitcch to be 6-0. Defense wins championships
With all due respect, yes defense does win championships but Peyton does not lol.
Yes Peyton has been probably the most successful regular season guy in history....but if the game is on the line between these two and I had to pick one...definitely going Rodgers.
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Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:
I like the home dog. That Denver defense is nasty.
almost everyone will be on the Packers on the thought that the Broncos have been one lucky son of a bitcch to be 6-0. Defense wins championships
With all due respect, yes defense does win championships but Peyton does not lol.
Yes Peyton has been probably the most successful regular season guy in history....but if the game is on the line between these two and I had to pick one...definitely going Rodgers.
yup book just moved to Packers -3 +100. This spread "should" stay put as sharps will be pounding Broncos catching over a FG at home. I am still more interested in the total .Both defenses should be at the forefront of shaping how this game goes. Packers D statistically worse in many categories but Broncos have trouble moving the ball.
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yup book just moved to Packers -3 +100. This spread "should" stay put as sharps will be pounding Broncos catching over a FG at home. I am still more interested in the total .Both defenses should be at the forefront of shaping how this game goes. Packers D statistically worse in many categories but Broncos have trouble moving the ball.
I'm on the Pack up to -4 although that'd be stretching it in terms of value.
I'm looking to fade Broncos vs any team that can play them clean, meaning not give up a non-offensive TD which I believe GB will be able to avoid.
Manning is the worst rated QB in the league by passer rating (min. 150 Attempts). That includes everyone we love to hate, Winston, Mariota, McCown, Cutler, Stafford, Bridgewater, Hoyer, Smith etc. He's also tied for dead last in Yards per attempt at 6.4.
Denver offense on 3rd/4th down is the 3rd worst team in the league only converting 32.3% of the time. They need on average 7+ yards to convert and pick up ~5 yards. This means on 1st/2nd down they are well below avg.
Consider this as well, the Denver offense has scored the least number of TD's in the league! 9 offensive TD's. Teams that have scored more include SF (10), MIN (11), TB (13) etc.
Coaching trends off a bye can be helpful when considering 2 similarly matched teams. In this case I would take McCarthy over Kubiak any day of the week.
Furthermore, the principal reason Denver's running game is terrible is due to Manning's lack of arm strength and production. Secondary's simply do not fear getting beat over the top and cheat towards the LOS. Manning WR's basically run variations on comeback routes, curl routes, and crossing patterns. Very predictable. As a result Denver is generally unable to utilize their WR's greatest asset which is speed.
I live in Colorado for what its worth and the weather has started changing for the colder/windier so keep that in mind as well. Anything can happen but I'll be on the Packers to expose the Broncos.
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I'm on the Pack up to -4 although that'd be stretching it in terms of value.
I'm looking to fade Broncos vs any team that can play them clean, meaning not give up a non-offensive TD which I believe GB will be able to avoid.
Manning is the worst rated QB in the league by passer rating (min. 150 Attempts). That includes everyone we love to hate, Winston, Mariota, McCown, Cutler, Stafford, Bridgewater, Hoyer, Smith etc. He's also tied for dead last in Yards per attempt at 6.4.
Denver offense on 3rd/4th down is the 3rd worst team in the league only converting 32.3% of the time. They need on average 7+ yards to convert and pick up ~5 yards. This means on 1st/2nd down they are well below avg.
Consider this as well, the Denver offense has scored the least number of TD's in the league! 9 offensive TD's. Teams that have scored more include SF (10), MIN (11), TB (13) etc.
Coaching trends off a bye can be helpful when considering 2 similarly matched teams. In this case I would take McCarthy over Kubiak any day of the week.
Furthermore, the principal reason Denver's running game is terrible is due to Manning's lack of arm strength and production. Secondary's simply do not fear getting beat over the top and cheat towards the LOS. Manning WR's basically run variations on comeback routes, curl routes, and crossing patterns. Very predictable. As a result Denver is generally unable to utilize their WR's greatest asset which is speed.
I live in Colorado for what its worth and the weather has started changing for the colder/windier so keep that in mind as well. Anything can happen but I'll be on the Packers to expose the Broncos.
All I know is what I've seen with my own two eyes and that is this. The Denver Broncos are over-rated and beyond lucky to be 5-0, and Manning has a noodle arm. The Packers are on the other hand are one of the best teams in the NFL. Phillip Rivers literally had one of the best games from a QB I've ever seen. His ball placement was level 100000. My jaw dropped on some of his throws and his 500 yards and 50 completions or so still wasn't enough to beat the Packers.
I've been waiting for this game for weeks. This Broncos defense is not as good as Seahawks last year or maybe even this year. I am beyond confident in this play and if it loses I will be 100% fine with it. I know I am on the right side. I am sure of it.
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All I know is what I've seen with my own two eyes and that is this. The Denver Broncos are over-rated and beyond lucky to be 5-0, and Manning has a noodle arm. The Packers are on the other hand are one of the best teams in the NFL. Phillip Rivers literally had one of the best games from a QB I've ever seen. His ball placement was level 100000. My jaw dropped on some of his throws and his 500 yards and 50 completions or so still wasn't enough to beat the Packers.
I've been waiting for this game for weeks. This Broncos defense is not as good as Seahawks last year or maybe even this year. I am beyond confident in this play and if it loses I will be 100% fine with it. I know I am on the right side. I am sure of it.
Not to mention the Broncos have beaten the Ravens, lions, Browns, Chiefs, Raiders, Vikings. Best win is vs the Vikings at home. Vikings are good but not on road (as seen vs SF)
I've said all I have to say. I am very, very confident..Barring more luck from Denver and some defensive/special team TDs this should end with a GB double digit win.
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Not to mention the Broncos have beaten the Ravens, lions, Browns, Chiefs, Raiders, Vikings. Best win is vs the Vikings at home. Vikings are good but not on road (as seen vs SF)
I've said all I have to say. I am very, very confident..Barring more luck from Denver and some defensive/special team TDs this should end with a GB double digit win.
yup book just moved to Packers -3 +100. This spread "should" stay put as sharps will be pounding Broncos catching over a FG at home. I am still more interested in the total .Both defenses should be at the forefront of shaping how this game goes. Packers D statistically worse in many categories but Broncos have trouble moving the ball.
Packers -3.5 +100 on Bovada
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:
yup book just moved to Packers -3 +100. This spread "should" stay put as sharps will be pounding Broncos catching over a FG at home. I am still more interested in the total .Both defenses should be at the forefront of shaping how this game goes. Packers D statistically worse in many categories but Broncos have trouble moving the ball.
All I know is what I've seen with my own two eyes and that is this. The Denver Broncos are over-rated and beyond lucky to be 5-0, and Manning has a noodle arm. The Packers are on the other hand are one of the best teams in the NFL. Phillip Rivers literally had one of the best games from a QB I've ever seen. His ball placement was level 100000. My jaw dropped on some of his throws and his 500 yards and 50 completions or so still wasn't enough to beat the Packers.
I've been waiting for this game for weeks. This Broncos defense is not as good as Seahawks last year or maybe even this year. I am beyond confident in this play and if it loses I will be 100% fine with it. I know I am on the right side. I am sure of it.
are you really that confident?
i highly disagree.
DEN and that D is 100% the right play getting 3 points at home. still tons of research to do, but DEN is my initial lean.
lets see you do what i always do.
GB covers or you leave this website forever. i have done it 3 or 4 times and am undefeated.
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Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:
All I know is what I've seen with my own two eyes and that is this. The Denver Broncos are over-rated and beyond lucky to be 5-0, and Manning has a noodle arm. The Packers are on the other hand are one of the best teams in the NFL. Phillip Rivers literally had one of the best games from a QB I've ever seen. His ball placement was level 100000. My jaw dropped on some of his throws and his 500 yards and 50 completions or so still wasn't enough to beat the Packers.
I've been waiting for this game for weeks. This Broncos defense is not as good as Seahawks last year or maybe even this year. I am beyond confident in this play and if it loses I will be 100% fine with it. I know I am on the right side. I am sure of it.
are you really that confident?
i highly disagree.
DEN and that D is 100% the right play getting 3 points at home. still tons of research to do, but DEN is my initial lean.
lets see you do what i always do.
GB covers or you leave this website forever. i have done it 3 or 4 times and am undefeated.
...its not Mannings arm strength that is the issue. Its been his accuracy and the play calling. The season is half way over and they are legit threats to win it all with that defense. Packers have played a soft schedule as well minus the Rams. SOS gives edge to DEN (#23) vs GB (#28) and given the home aadvantage Denver "should" be favored -2...but of course, public bettors are all over GB.
If Ware is back in at 100% (praticed already this week) I dont think the packers will 28 points, which means they wont win the game. Just my thoughts, GL all.
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...its not Mannings arm strength that is the issue. Its been his accuracy and the play calling. The season is half way over and they are legit threats to win it all with that defense. Packers have played a soft schedule as well minus the Rams. SOS gives edge to DEN (#23) vs GB (#28) and given the home aadvantage Denver "should" be favored -2...but of course, public bettors are all over GB.
If Ware is back in at 100% (praticed already this week) I dont think the packers will 28 points, which means they wont win the game. Just my thoughts, GL all.
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green bay are ranked in top 3 in force turnover. manning are created more turnovers than other teams.
...its not Mannings arm strength that is the issue. Its been his accuracy and the play calling. The season is half way over and they are legit threats to win it all with that defense. Packers have played a soft schedule as well minus the Rams. SOS gives edge to DEN (#23) vs GB (#28) and given the home aadvantage Denver "should" be favored -2...but of course, public bettors are all over GB. 
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