People that thinks there's no fixing in sports should stop gambling

Does anybody ever wonder why over in other countries everyone of their teams has sponsored jerseys?   some of them by bookmakers?  well...lets keep in mind this is a sport called soccer that none of us over here in America even care about but that doesnt strike anyone as odd?

Heres my thinking....difference on why they all have sponsored jerseys and American sports dont....in soccer the clock runs continously....no commericals...therefore they have the jerseys and some billboard that changes on the border of the field...In America we dont need that because in all honesty they make far more money offering time slots to a bigger audience due to tv timeouts, injury timeouts, challenges, you freaking name it....they come up with something new all the time just to go to commercials

I hope no one is saying so far that "what does this have to do with sports being fixed?"  Well ill tell ya what it does....its all entertainment...not everything your watching is fixed, but if you have it in your mind that some of this stuff isnt "controlled" you need to have your head examined...sports is what we call big buisness folks...i mean huge business...its always around, always will be, because how they have that control or how they control us by us always wanting to watch is fascinating

Just my two cents...im not once again one of these people screaming out that the fix was in....but in my 12 years of gambling...ive seen alot...maybe not seen it all...but I have seen alot...and the control is there....America...Europe..Asia...everywhere...its all entertainment....never forget that!!!

I am open-mined on the subject but lets play devil advocate here:

Like you said, soccer has been exposed many times before and if I follow your logic, wouldn't NFL been exposed AT LEAST one time by now?

Back to this particular game:

If the game was "fixed" to be under, what made you think they couldn't just send the kicker out to miss it? Before you said it's too difficult/obvious to do that, just ask Matt Bryant(Atl kicker), he missed a 22 yarders before HT on Atl/Tb game. Also, a flag was flown on that 4th down play, meaning the NYG would have a new set of downs had the ball not being tipped. So are you suggesting the " tipped" was part of the plan, too?  Someone else already mentioned the fact that they could have easily made those Tds in the 1H into FGs, don't you think?

I would like a discussion on the specifics rather just a blanket statement about money involved since it wouldn't go anywhere.

I think that's the real problem. People are actually crying "fix" almost every game when they are on the wrong side and it diminishes its credibility.

This guy has it all figured out. I will be watching intently for your next winner.

Just kidding.

You dumbass they don't have to sweat.  They have the control.  They ones betting the under were sweating.  Until late in the 4th qtr then the over's were sweating. 

Yes i think they are rigged, planned and all that.  My job is to betting with what vegas is going to do not necessarily which team is better.  So i look at it at a different stand point of whom vegas is going to allow to win and whom they won't.   They will give free ones once in awhile to keep you happy and keep playing.  But in the end they will F*** you over if you take the obvious all the time.

The players didn't decide whether to kick a field goal or go for it last night now did they.

None of my questions were addressed but I see your points. However, I believe Pitts won the game and ATS. In other words, you are suggesting that the refs were trying to fix the game but still couldn't accomplish it at the end. Again, I am not trying to be argumentative, I just want to see all the angles.

stop gambling then and get off this site

Thanks for the clarification but how about post#32?

When I say "vegas" I don't mean the Casinos alone. Because the way sports betting is set up. Its very hard for casinos to book all the bets out there, thus we have off-shore sites and everyone's local bookies. The actions that goes on off-shore and mafia own bookies takes ten times more action than the Vegas Casinos does. The NFL league is on the take as well. as well as all the owners. Do you know how much screwkney it takes to become a NFL team owner? The NFL league wants to make sure you are as cooketed as they are before letting you buy the team. I am sure the commisioner of NFL is in on it as well.

I used to work at Penn State around 12 years ago and got to become a good friend with a football player, and I told him that games were fixed in the pro as well as college level. At first he disagree with me, but later I told him on certain spreads and outcome and ask him to pay attention. Later he said that I was right. Because the were calls on the spread that don't make sense. He knew a few plays that were called have dire consequences, either results in turn over or failures. So keep in mind people.