One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
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One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
I get your point on the Colts, that really makes sense from a situational angle. I cannot say anything further on the matchup as I didn't look into it yet.
But there is no single argument right now of why to put money on the Panthers. Seahawks had crazy things going against them so far, they are still a SB contender and one of the best teams on both sides of the ball. Panthers are just awful, they can't defend anything. They conceded 34.2 points per average in regulation time in their L5 games, not only after they played a five quarters game. In addition they have a short week and the Saints on deck.
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I get your point on the Colts, that really makes sense from a situational angle. I cannot say anything further on the matchup as I didn't look into it yet.
But there is no single argument right now of why to put money on the Panthers. Seahawks had crazy things going against them so far, they are still a SB contender and one of the best teams on both sides of the ball. Panthers are just awful, they can't defend anything. They conceded 34.2 points per average in regulation time in their L5 games, not only after they played a five quarters game. In addition they have a short week and the Saints on deck.
I couldn't agree more with you first place teams like GB and Balt being dogs wow and it's hard for me to swallow but yes Indy will beat Pitt I watched that line go from pk to -3 in minutes out in Vegas Monday night missed it and hasn't went under 3 since still a slam dunk!!!
Balt Indy GB bronchoes and Arizona playing good as anyone
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I couldn't agree more with you first place teams like GB and Balt being dogs wow and it's hard for me to swallow but yes Indy will beat Pitt I watched that line go from pk to -3 in minutes out in Vegas Monday night missed it and hasn't went under 3 since still a slam dunk!!!
Balt Indy GB bronchoes and Arizona playing good as anyone
One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
Great info, LC. Very helpful. I'm on the Saints but also on the hawks (should I worry?). The thing about that Bungles game is that it's hard for me to see the Ravens losing 3 in a row to their division foe, dating back to last year (when the Bungles knocked the Ravens out of the playoffs). This is a double revenge game so I may just pass, though my initial lean was the Ravens. I also have a lot of respect for Harbaugh and very little for Marvin Lewis. I like the Steelers to beat Indi but I think that will be a close game.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
Great info, LC. Very helpful. I'm on the Saints but also on the hawks (should I worry?). The thing about that Bungles game is that it's hard for me to see the Ravens losing 3 in a row to their division foe, dating back to last year (when the Bungles knocked the Ravens out of the playoffs). This is a double revenge game so I may just pass, though my initial lean was the Ravens. I also have a lot of respect for Harbaugh and very little for Marvin Lewis. I like the Steelers to beat Indi but I think that will be a close game.
One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
BTW, LC, if you knew this, why didn't you bet against these teams last week? It's a nice little stat.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
One thing I want to point out about last week’s games…
The Packers crushed the Panthers 38-17, while the Colts crushed the Bengals 27-0. Perception is being perceived that the Bengals and Panthers are absolute sh1t due to there embarrassing losses, but one thing to note is that both teams were in absolute terrible spots last week. The Bengals and the Panthers played in a 37-37 tie the week prior, essentially playing 5 quarters. Road teams after a tie game are 0-7 SU and 0-7 ATS all-time, with every team losing by an average of 20 points. With that being said, was the Colts and Packers wins as impressive as people think? In my opinion, no.
The Packers two weeks ago caused 3 turnovers against the Dolphins and still needed a miracle comeback drive to win that game. How many times does a team commit 3 turnovers and still have a chance to win? The Packers are another great offense with a terrible defense. The Saints are being underrated, there a terrible road team that were up 2 touchdowns against the best defense in the league before self-destructing late in the game. Seems they fixed some issues over the bye week. The Packers defense is nowhere close to what the Lions bring to the table and the Saints are playing at home instead of on the road?
It’s easy to see why everyone is in love with the Colts as well this week but it takes a lot of emotion and energy to shut out a team. The Colts dominated the Bengals from start to finish, but what price will it have on them this week? Road favorites after holding an opponent to 3 points or less at home are 1-16 ATS the following week since 2006, if they have another road game on deck. Not only that, but they lose the cover by an average of 9 points. Roethlisberger is 5-1 ATS as a home dog in his career as well.
I’ll be trimming down my plays this week as I lost a fortune this past Sunday (F U Giants), but I will be looking VERY closely at the Steelers + Saints, and possibly the Panthers/Bengals.
BTW, LC, if you knew this, why didn't you bet against these teams last week? It's a nice little stat.
Great info, LC. Very helpful. I'm on the Saints but also on the hawks (should I worry?). The thing about that Bungles game is that it's hard for me to see the Ravens losing 3 in a row to their division foe, dating back to last year (when the Bungles knocked the Ravens out of the playoffs). This is a double revenge game so I may just pass, though my initial lean was the Ravens. I also have a lot of respect for Harbaugh and very little for Marvin Lewis. I like the Steelers to beat Indi but I think that will be a close game.
Great note, didn't know Ravens lost last 2 to Bengals. Taking a closer look though, good teams (higher than 50% WP), after 2 DIV losses to opponent cover at just 51% of the time. So no real credence there.
ATS:
73-68-6 (1.21, 51.8%)
John Harbaugh also 0-5 ATS in same season revenge games.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Great info, LC. Very helpful. I'm on the Saints but also on the hawks (should I worry?). The thing about that Bungles game is that it's hard for me to see the Ravens losing 3 in a row to their division foe, dating back to last year (when the Bungles knocked the Ravens out of the playoffs). This is a double revenge game so I may just pass, though my initial lean was the Ravens. I also have a lot of respect for Harbaugh and very little for Marvin Lewis. I like the Steelers to beat Indi but I think that will be a close game.
Great note, didn't know Ravens lost last 2 to Bengals. Taking a closer look though, good teams (higher than 50% WP), after 2 DIV losses to opponent cover at just 51% of the time. So no real credence there.
ATS:
73-68-6 (1.21, 51.8%)
John Harbaugh also 0-5 ATS in same season revenge games.
I get your point on the Colts, that really makes sense from a situational angle. I cannot say anything further on the matchup as I didn't look into it yet.
But there is no single argument right now of why to put money on the Panthers. Seahawks had crazy things going against them so far, they are still a SB contender and one of the best teams on both sides of the ball. Panthers are just awful, they can't defend anything. They conceded 34.2 points per average in regulation time in their L5 games, not only after they played a five quarters game. In addition they have a short week and the Saints on deck.
There last 2 games have been on the road at two stadiums with some of the best home records in the league (Bengals at home, Packers at home). There 3 home games this year have been better, holding Bears to 24, Lions to 7, and Steelers to 37 (not so much here)
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
I get your point on the Colts, that really makes sense from a situational angle. I cannot say anything further on the matchup as I didn't look into it yet.
But there is no single argument right now of why to put money on the Panthers. Seahawks had crazy things going against them so far, they are still a SB contender and one of the best teams on both sides of the ball. Panthers are just awful, they can't defend anything. They conceded 34.2 points per average in regulation time in their L5 games, not only after they played a five quarters game. In addition they have a short week and the Saints on deck.
There last 2 games have been on the road at two stadiums with some of the best home records in the league (Bengals at home, Packers at home). There 3 home games this year have been better, holding Bears to 24, Lions to 7, and Steelers to 37 (not so much here)
I'm sorry I meant Carolina instead of rams. Rams was last week against Seattle. Actually I do like rams tho. No love last week and you saw what happened and after KC beats San Diego everyone is on there nuts. Il be taking the 7 points there if I play it.
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I'm sorry I meant Carolina instead of rams. Rams was last week against Seattle. Actually I do like rams tho. No love last week and you saw what happened and after KC beats San Diego everyone is on there nuts. Il be taking the 7 points there if I play it.
LC Great Analysis. I can only tell you I had Pitt in first half and for the game Monday. Will be the first to admit was very lucky and should have bought Hou live betting second half +7.5. For most of the 1st half I was wondering why I would take Big Ben against JJ Watt and Foster. Craziest 3 minutes of football I can remember. I did make a not not to take Pitt again until new offense gets rolling. Pitt defense is down to picking up old retired players and fill ins almost like they are on TILT gambling. I totally agree with your position and the way the games setup. We all keep waiting for them to blow someone out. For 3 1/2 quarters they can. They struggle putting games away due to their pourous defense and being pass happy. Green Bay is not known for playing well inside domes. Saints season is on the line so they will not overlook this game for the divisional game against Carolina. There are a few games this week the better team is an underdog on the road. We will see.
Philadelphia + vs AZ
Buffalo + JETS Both running backs out for Buffalo with injury
Chicago + NE Chicago has more weapons offesively
Balt due for letdown game Cinci needs win badly
No line out on Houston Tenn game I have available. I look for HOU to be angry and bounce back. They outplayed Pitt everywhere except scoreboard and a few plays.BOL LC stay hungry for wins my friend. DOS EQUIS
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LC Great Analysis. I can only tell you I had Pitt in first half and for the game Monday. Will be the first to admit was very lucky and should have bought Hou live betting second half +7.5. For most of the 1st half I was wondering why I would take Big Ben against JJ Watt and Foster. Craziest 3 minutes of football I can remember. I did make a not not to take Pitt again until new offense gets rolling. Pitt defense is down to picking up old retired players and fill ins almost like they are on TILT gambling. I totally agree with your position and the way the games setup. We all keep waiting for them to blow someone out. For 3 1/2 quarters they can. They struggle putting games away due to their pourous defense and being pass happy. Green Bay is not known for playing well inside domes. Saints season is on the line so they will not overlook this game for the divisional game against Carolina. There are a few games this week the better team is an underdog on the road. We will see.
Philadelphia + vs AZ
Buffalo + JETS Both running backs out for Buffalo with injury
Chicago + NE Chicago has more weapons offesively
Balt due for letdown game Cinci needs win badly
No line out on Houston Tenn game I have available. I look for HOU to be angry and bounce back. They outplayed Pitt everywhere except scoreboard and a few plays.BOL LC stay hungry for wins my friend. DOS EQUIS
the steelers may well beat the colts but it wont be because indy used a lot of emotion and effort. cincy was a complete no show (maybe for the reason you said re playing 5 quarters) last week and indy cruised through that game barely breaking sweat. this is an awful spot for pittsburgh as well coming off a short week with a big divisional revenge game on deck against their biggest rival. indy will defo be the square side this week but i can see them getting there
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the steelers may well beat the colts but it wont be because indy used a lot of emotion and effort. cincy was a complete no show (maybe for the reason you said re playing 5 quarters) last week and indy cruised through that game barely breaking sweat. this is an awful spot for pittsburgh as well coming off a short week with a big divisional revenge game on deck against their biggest rival. indy will defo be the square side this week but i can see them getting there
Maybe the biggest perception game of the week is San Diego vs Denver game. Yes Denver has revenge on its side but that just means that San Diego came in and beat them last year. San off loss to division foe Chiefs who were off a bye week. Den off a blowout win over 9ers squad that is overrated this year. San cannot run the ball much and will have to some to make play action game of Rivers effective. This may sound crazy but Den will need to be able to run the ball to keep it away from Rivers and company. Either team can win this game outright. Getting over 7 points which will be more by kickoff seems to be the way to go.....I keep close track of the AFC West....sorry to say as I am a Raiders fan
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Maybe the biggest perception game of the week is San Diego vs Denver game. Yes Denver has revenge on its side but that just means that San Diego came in and beat them last year. San off loss to division foe Chiefs who were off a bye week. Den off a blowout win over 9ers squad that is overrated this year. San cannot run the ball much and will have to some to make play action game of Rivers effective. This may sound crazy but Den will need to be able to run the ball to keep it away from Rivers and company. Either team can win this game outright. Getting over 7 points which will be more by kickoff seems to be the way to go.....I keep close track of the AFC West....sorry to say as I am a Raiders fan
the steelers may well beat the colts but it wont be because indy used a lot of emotion and effort. cincy was a complete no show (maybe for the reason you said re playing 5 quarters) last week and indy cruised through that game barely breaking sweat. this is an awful spot for pittsburgh as well coming off a short week with a big divisional revenge game on deck against their biggest rival. indy will defo be the square side this week but i can see them getting there
Appreciate your thoughts but again, public perception vs reality.
Home dogs after a home win on MNF = 5-1 ATS
Big Ben week prior to playing the Ravens = 16-2 SU
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Quote Originally Posted by topshow:
the steelers may well beat the colts but it wont be because indy used a lot of emotion and effort. cincy was a complete no show (maybe for the reason you said re playing 5 quarters) last week and indy cruised through that game barely breaking sweat. this is an awful spot for pittsburgh as well coming off a short week with a big divisional revenge game on deck against their biggest rival. indy will defo be the square side this week but i can see them getting there
Appreciate your thoughts but again, public perception vs reality.
Home dogs after a home win on MNF = 5-1 ATS
Big Ben week prior to playing the Ravens = 16-2 SU
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