this is a copy and paste from my thread i created a few days ago
reasons why: they got a quarterback that has more arm strength and accuracy than kerry collins that will open the running lanes for the arguably the best rb in the game the defense got younger and better they also got a new defensive coordinator that actually knows how to call plays they are very deep at the d.l position, t.e position, cb position, safety position, and solid on the o-line.
they have one of the best kickers in the game and a very reliable special teams.
Predictions: they'll win 3+ or more divisional games .they'll sweep either the texans or jacksonville and whoever they dont sweep they'll split with them and there colts games usually are decided by a posession
titans will finish 8-8 or better.
cj will lead the league in rushing again.
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this is a copy and paste from my thread i created a few days ago
reasons why: they got a quarterback that has more arm strength and accuracy than kerry collins that will open the running lanes for the arguably the best rb in the game the defense got younger and better they also got a new defensive coordinator that actually knows how to call plays they are very deep at the d.l position, t.e position, cb position, safety position, and solid on the o-line.
they have one of the best kickers in the game and a very reliable special teams.
Predictions: they'll win 3+ or more divisional games .they'll sweep either the texans or jacksonville and whoever they dont sweep they'll split with them and there colts games usually are decided by a posession
miami will lose 2 to the jets, 2 to the patriots and split with buffalo. can they win 7 out remaining 10?
LMAO. They are 4-1 in their last 5 games vs the jets.
To say they will lose 2 games to the jets is a very ignorant statement. I'm not here to convince you otherwise, but if you are picking season O/U's based on how you picked the Fins, you will not be profittable
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Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:
miami will lose 2 to the jets, 2 to the patriots and split with buffalo. can they win 7 out remaining 10?
LMAO. They are 4-1 in their last 5 games vs the jets.
To say they will lose 2 games to the jets is a very ignorant statement. I'm not here to convince you otherwise, but if you are picking season O/U's based on how you picked the Fins, you will not be profittable
LMAO. They are 4-1 in their last 5 games vs the jets.
To say they will lose 2 games to the jets is a very ignorant statement. I'm not here to convince you otherwise, but if you are picking season O/U's based on how you picked the Fins, you will not be profittable
im saying theyll lose 2 to the jets cause the jets got better while the dolphins didnt. the front office has no confidence in the coach/chad henne, the dolphins dont have a proven rb, the defense didnt get any better but whatever, let your homerism get in the way of your bets. "you will not be profitable.
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Quote Originally Posted by EIGHTYpercent:
LMAO. They are 4-1 in their last 5 games vs the jets.
To say they will lose 2 games to the jets is a very ignorant statement. I'm not here to convince you otherwise, but if you are picking season O/U's based on how you picked the Fins, you will not be profittable
im saying theyll lose 2 to the jets cause the jets got better while the dolphins didnt. the front office has no confidence in the coach/chad henne, the dolphins dont have a proven rb, the defense didnt get any better but whatever, let your homerism get in the way of your bets. "you will not be profitable.
Haha I will go on a 15minute rant right now if you want. I do believe that the Fins might not win 8 games this year, but it won't be because they play the Jets Twice.
You claim the Jets got better, but the Fins didn't. Says who, you?
The Dolphins had the 7th best defense in the league last year, 8th against the pass and 6th against the run. They have another year experience under Nolan and should be even better. They have underated cornerbacks, one of the best pass rushers in the league (Wake) and a stud lineback in Dansby. Defense isn't the problem for the Fins. It's offense.
One of their biggest problems last year was the merry-go-round they had at offensive line. They had so many injuries that they were forced to start a guard at center for the final 8 weeks last year (Hence why they drafted a center in the 1st round) They did lose something in Ronnie/Rickie, but I expect their 3-headed system to be better than their run game last year, Bush can produce and get 10-12 touches a game and spread the defense out. Not to mention they have a beast receiver and the highest paid slot receiver in the league. (Bess) Obviously the big question mark is their QB. Henne has all the tools to be a solid NFL qb, but this is where the problem lies. If the Fins do not win 8 games this year, it will be because of poor QB play, not because they play the Jets twice.
Lastly, they got a brand new O-coordinator which was about 4 years over-due. Dan Henning (their previous O-cordinator) was one of the worst and most predictable play callers in the league. Thank god he is gone and I dare you to find ONE Dolphins fan who will miss that guy. You won't.
Sorry to go on my rant, but I'm not a homer. Just an optimistic fan who knows the rest of the league is blind to the potential the Fins have. If Henne comes out and shows that he hasn't improved, I'm sure I will have to sit through another 7-9 season, but aslong as he doesn't completly destroy this team. They will win 8 games, mark that down.
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Haha I will go on a 15minute rant right now if you want. I do believe that the Fins might not win 8 games this year, but it won't be because they play the Jets Twice.
You claim the Jets got better, but the Fins didn't. Says who, you?
The Dolphins had the 7th best defense in the league last year, 8th against the pass and 6th against the run. They have another year experience under Nolan and should be even better. They have underated cornerbacks, one of the best pass rushers in the league (Wake) and a stud lineback in Dansby. Defense isn't the problem for the Fins. It's offense.
One of their biggest problems last year was the merry-go-round they had at offensive line. They had so many injuries that they were forced to start a guard at center for the final 8 weeks last year (Hence why they drafted a center in the 1st round) They did lose something in Ronnie/Rickie, but I expect their 3-headed system to be better than their run game last year, Bush can produce and get 10-12 touches a game and spread the defense out. Not to mention they have a beast receiver and the highest paid slot receiver in the league. (Bess) Obviously the big question mark is their QB. Henne has all the tools to be a solid NFL qb, but this is where the problem lies. If the Fins do not win 8 games this year, it will be because of poor QB play, not because they play the Jets twice.
Lastly, they got a brand new O-coordinator which was about 4 years over-due. Dan Henning (their previous O-cordinator) was one of the worst and most predictable play callers in the league. Thank god he is gone and I dare you to find ONE Dolphins fan who will miss that guy. You won't.
Sorry to go on my rant, but I'm not a homer. Just an optimistic fan who knows the rest of the league is blind to the potential the Fins have. If Henne comes out and shows that he hasn't improved, I'm sure I will have to sit through another 7-9 season, but aslong as he doesn't completly destroy this team. They will win 8 games, mark that down.
Thanks for the insight on the Fins. Of all the teams, they are probably the one I know the least about.
Still, I just looked at their schedule, and I count 10 tough games for them. Now a tough game doesn't mean a loss, but a "tough game" is a game against any top-tier team.
2 NE
2 NYJ
the 3 NFC East teams (Redskins don't count)
San Diego
Houston (in week 2, before Houston typically gets ravaged/weakened by injuries)
KC
If Buffalo improved significantly, this bet would look better. But they didn't. That's why the Bills suck, lol. I suspect Buffalo improved somewhat, but when you take all their FA transactions into consideration, it's hard to say that they'll be better this year. Especially now that the word is out on Stevie Johnson.
So, I'm counting both BUF games as wins for MIA from the "Season Win Totals" perspective. (I may bet differently on game day.)
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Thanks for the insight on the Fins. Of all the teams, they are probably the one I know the least about.
Still, I just looked at their schedule, and I count 10 tough games for them. Now a tough game doesn't mean a loss, but a "tough game" is a game against any top-tier team.
2 NE
2 NYJ
the 3 NFC East teams (Redskins don't count)
San Diego
Houston (in week 2, before Houston typically gets ravaged/weakened by injuries)
KC
If Buffalo improved significantly, this bet would look better. But they didn't. That's why the Bills suck, lol. I suspect Buffalo improved somewhat, but when you take all their FA transactions into consideration, it's hard to say that they'll be better this year. Especially now that the word is out on Stevie Johnson.
So, I'm counting both BUF games as wins for MIA from the "Season Win Totals" perspective. (I may bet differently on game day.)
Yeah the Fins do have a tough schedule, not as tough as last year.
I expect them to go 3-3 in the dvision. If the ball bounces the right way I would say 4-2.
I expect them to have a 9-7 season, that can range anywhere from 7 to 11 wins. This is the reason I personally don't see the value in under being 7.5 -135. I believe they only won 2 games at home last year, I really don't expect a repeat performance of that. The new offensive coordinator they brough in is HUGE, almost like signing a big name free agent. Thats how much their old O-coordinator sucked.
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Yeah the Fins do have a tough schedule, not as tough as last year.
I expect them to go 3-3 in the dvision. If the ball bounces the right way I would say 4-2.
I expect them to have a 9-7 season, that can range anywhere from 7 to 11 wins. This is the reason I personally don't see the value in under being 7.5 -135. I believe they only won 2 games at home last year, I really don't expect a repeat performance of that. The new offensive coordinator they brough in is HUGE, almost like signing a big name free agent. Thats how much their old O-coordinator sucked.
On my website SF is UNDER 8 @-140 and Miami UNDER 8 @-175.
Brutal juice on Miami but looking at their schedule they will be lucky to win 6-7 games. SF has easier schedule and the Harbaugh factor but they are re-tooling this year....I am a huge 49er fan......
ST LOUIS is +170 to win the West. There is another excellent futures bet. They have a great young QB, SJackson is healhy and strong and they filled most if not all there glaring holes with nice FA pickups. This team in this division should run away with it. OVER 7.5 STLOUIS +115 as well!!
Just thoughts.......
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On my website SF is UNDER 8 @-140 and Miami UNDER 8 @-175.
Brutal juice on Miami but looking at their schedule they will be lucky to win 6-7 games. SF has easier schedule and the Harbaugh factor but they are re-tooling this year....I am a huge 49er fan......
ST LOUIS is +170 to win the West. There is another excellent futures bet. They have a great young QB, SJackson is healhy and strong and they filled most if not all there glaring holes with nice FA pickups. This team in this division should run away with it. OVER 7.5 STLOUIS +115 as well!!
On my website SF is UNDER 8 @-140 and Miami UNDER 8 @-175.
Brutal juice on Miami but looking at their schedule they will be lucky to win 6-7 games. SF has easier schedule and the Harbaugh factor but they are re-tooling this year....I am a huge 49er fan......
ST LOUIS is +170 to win the West. There is another excellent futures bet. They have a great young QB, SJackson is healhy and strong and they filled most if not all there glaring holes with nice FA pickups. This team in this division should run away with it. OVER 7.5 STLOUIS +115 as well!!
Just thoughts.......
You know, you are absolutely right about St. Louis. But I have had a difficult time accepting that truth -- I agree that they're a contender to win the NFC West. Before placing any money down, continue to watch the Cardinals 1st team play in preseason. They looked horrible last week, but I couldn't tell if that was only because Kolb only had 5 practices w/ the team at that point (a convenient excuse), or because the offensive line had no idea WTF they were doing (this is the most likely answer).
If the Cardinals' 1st teamers continue to suck ass, bet big on the Rams.
* Just be forewarned, Ken Whisenhunt (Cards' coach) is known for mailing it in in preseason, by limiting playcalling to really predictable shit. So is his old buddy, Chiefs coach Todd Haley (Haley does this every year). So watch for the little things -- you're looking for mere competence at executing the basic plays, not excellence.
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Quote Originally Posted by Vanrush:
On my website SF is UNDER 8 @-140 and Miami UNDER 8 @-175.
Brutal juice on Miami but looking at their schedule they will be lucky to win 6-7 games. SF has easier schedule and the Harbaugh factor but they are re-tooling this year....I am a huge 49er fan......
ST LOUIS is +170 to win the West. There is another excellent futures bet. They have a great young QB, SJackson is healhy and strong and they filled most if not all there glaring holes with nice FA pickups. This team in this division should run away with it. OVER 7.5 STLOUIS +115 as well!!
Just thoughts.......
You know, you are absolutely right about St. Louis. But I have had a difficult time accepting that truth -- I agree that they're a contender to win the NFC West. Before placing any money down, continue to watch the Cardinals 1st team play in preseason. They looked horrible last week, but I couldn't tell if that was only because Kolb only had 5 practices w/ the team at that point (a convenient excuse), or because the offensive line had no idea WTF they were doing (this is the most likely answer).
If the Cardinals' 1st teamers continue to suck ass, bet big on the Rams.
* Just be forewarned, Ken Whisenhunt (Cards' coach) is known for mailing it in in preseason, by limiting playcalling to really predictable shit. So is his old buddy, Chiefs coach Todd Haley (Haley does this every year). So watch for the little things -- you're looking for mere competence at executing the basic plays, not excellence.
80% - What do you think about the Saints? I believe they can go 13-3 this year if not at least 11-5. Brees is healthy again, and it looks like the run game will improve. Thanks for the input....I believe the o/u is 10.5.
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80% - What do you think about the Saints? I believe they can go 13-3 this year if not at least 11-5. Brees is healthy again, and it looks like the run game will improve. Thanks for the input....I believe the o/u is 10.5.
1. Saints: 10 is the season win total. I like the over. Thanks to ryder007 for pointing that out. At first glance, the Saints schedule looks kind of tough. But then if you look game-by-game, they should be a clear favorite in 13 of those games. And the Saints improved over the offseason at RB, and at least stayed the same on defense if not improved. I could see them easily going 13-3, 12-4 (one loss to clear underdogs), 11-5 (with two losses to clear underdogs).
I also am a fan of the 9/1 odds some books are laying down for the Saints to win the Super Bowl. They're the 5th best team in the league, they've been there before, and they have a huge home field advantage.
2. I like the Niners under 7.5. Agree with The Hawk on that one!
3. My Top 4 is turning into my Top 2 or 3.
Cleveland is improving, and has a really relatively easy schedule to start the year (Bengals twice, Titans, NFC West). I must erase them from the list, just because of that schedule, Colt McCoy, and Peyton Hillis. I still like the under on 6.5, but not for a large sum. Because of that, I disqualify it from my top picks.
Cincinnati stays in the top picks, under 5.5. They have looked horrible, done nothing to get better, and I hear their practices are a joke. Maybe this season is the nail in the coffin for Marvin Lewis?
I'm not as hot on Carolina over 4.5 after reviewing the schedule, but I still think they have at least five wins in them. There's enough close games on their schedule. Carolina OVER. (I acknowledge the QB probs, but I also believe many of their problems were tied to John Fox and his playcalling.)
Tennessee sucks. They definitely remain under 6.5. Lock of the year?
4. I'm also liking the NYG under 9.5 the more I look at it. I look at their schedule and see 8ish wins if they lose both games to the Eagles. However, the Eagles can be run on, and NYG can run the ball. Still worth a closer look, and must consider any injuries the week before the season starts.
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1. Saints: 10 is the season win total. I like the over. Thanks to ryder007 for pointing that out. At first glance, the Saints schedule looks kind of tough. But then if you look game-by-game, they should be a clear favorite in 13 of those games. And the Saints improved over the offseason at RB, and at least stayed the same on defense if not improved. I could see them easily going 13-3, 12-4 (one loss to clear underdogs), 11-5 (with two losses to clear underdogs).
I also am a fan of the 9/1 odds some books are laying down for the Saints to win the Super Bowl. They're the 5th best team in the league, they've been there before, and they have a huge home field advantage.
2. I like the Niners under 7.5. Agree with The Hawk on that one!
3. My Top 4 is turning into my Top 2 or 3.
Cleveland is improving, and has a really relatively easy schedule to start the year (Bengals twice, Titans, NFC West). I must erase them from the list, just because of that schedule, Colt McCoy, and Peyton Hillis. I still like the under on 6.5, but not for a large sum. Because of that, I disqualify it from my top picks.
Cincinnati stays in the top picks, under 5.5. They have looked horrible, done nothing to get better, and I hear their practices are a joke. Maybe this season is the nail in the coffin for Marvin Lewis?
I'm not as hot on Carolina over 4.5 after reviewing the schedule, but I still think they have at least five wins in them. There's enough close games on their schedule. Carolina OVER. (I acknowledge the QB probs, but I also believe many of their problems were tied to John Fox and his playcalling.)
Tennessee sucks. They definitely remain under 6.5. Lock of the year?
4. I'm also liking the NYG under 9.5 the more I look at it. I look at their schedule and see 8ish wins if they lose both games to the Eagles. However, the Eagles can be run on, and NYG can run the ball. Still worth a closer look, and must consider any injuries the week before the season starts.
I played under 5.5 Cincy at -135 for $500...I was too late and didn't grab over 9.5 San Diego like I wanted. I only see it at 10 now. I like the way their schedule plays out (although they'll lose in Detroit 2nd week before last)...Might grab that under 7.5 9ers you and Hawk are talking about. I see them struggling for sure.
GL this season
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I played under 5.5 Cincy at -135 for $500...I was too late and didn't grab over 9.5 San Diego like I wanted. I only see it at 10 now. I like the way their schedule plays out (although they'll lose in Detroit 2nd week before last)...Might grab that under 7.5 9ers you and Hawk are talking about. I see them struggling for sure.
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)...Might grab that under 7.5 9ers you and Hawk are talking about. I see them struggling for sure. 
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