To all the people making knee jerk reactions to the near collapse by ATL in the 4th quarter and how SF dismantled GB in the second half...
Don't you think that with that HUGE monkey off their back (getting first post season win for Matty Ice, Tony G and ATL for that matter in a great while) that they are going to be much looser and confident against SF? Three of SF's four losses were on the road. I could easily see SF lose this game straight up let alone cover the spread.
Personally I am already on ATL +17.5 in a teaser and probably will be locking in ATL +4.5 right now. BOL!
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To all the people making knee jerk reactions to the near collapse by ATL in the 4th quarter and how SF dismantled GB in the second half...
Don't you think that with that HUGE monkey off their back (getting first post season win for Matty Ice, Tony G and ATL for that matter in a great while) that they are going to be much looser and confident against SF? Three of SF's four losses were on the road. I could easily see SF lose this game straight up let alone cover the spread.
Personally I am already on ATL +17.5 in a teaser and probably will be locking in ATL +4.5 right now. BOL!
Lock away. Anyone who understands the dynamics of football and sport knows 49ers win this match...
Come on Mack... I am a HUGE FAN of your boxing analysis but to make a snide comment like this without any analysis and only an insult is uncalled for and sounds like you are more of a 49ers fan than a handicapper.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Lock away. Anyone who understands the dynamics of football and sport knows 49ers win this match...
Come on Mack... I am a HUGE FAN of your boxing analysis but to make a snide comment like this without any analysis and only an insult is uncalled for and sounds like you are more of a 49ers fan than a handicapper.
I would rather game plan a defense for a second year qb and a first year starter than say a Tom Brady. Just watch the Game he had in Seattle or ask Bill how he would stop him after SF whipped Pats the week before. Atlanta had no pass rush in second half versus Seattle but maybe they won't need one against this kind of qb. Remember not many running qbs go to SB let alone win one. Pats rarely lose if ever to a qb they face for the second time especially a young one like Kap. Just ask Peyton or Ben. If SF and Balt. Make it, it would first time two head coach brothers will meet in SB. What are the odds of that happening?
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I would rather game plan a defense for a second year qb and a first year starter than say a Tom Brady. Just watch the Game he had in Seattle or ask Bill how he would stop him after SF whipped Pats the week before. Atlanta had no pass rush in second half versus Seattle but maybe they won't need one against this kind of qb. Remember not many running qbs go to SB let alone win one. Pats rarely lose if ever to a qb they face for the second time especially a young one like Kap. Just ask Peyton or Ben. If SF and Balt. Make it, it would first time two head coach brothers will meet in SB. What are the odds of that happening?
those 3 road losses were to a good minnesota team, seattle and st louis...st louis was 5-1 ATS against divsional opponents...so dont throw in the "away" factor as to why u think ATL will beat sf..
you ACTUALLY thinnk atl will beat sf? ATL shouldn't have won against the seahawks..their defense wasnt stopping nobody....they got lucky with the marshawn lynch fumble and the stop on 4th and 1 in their redzone....Seattle/Lynch is better than that...ATL has no pass rush at all and i can easily see kapernick run wild like he did against GB, wouldn't even be surprised if he reached 200yd rushing lol.
its matt ryans first time in NFC championship and you think the pressure was let off after he won his first playoff game? what kind of reasoning is this!
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those 3 road losses were to a good minnesota team, seattle and st louis...st louis was 5-1 ATS against divsional opponents...so dont throw in the "away" factor as to why u think ATL will beat sf..
you ACTUALLY thinnk atl will beat sf? ATL shouldn't have won against the seahawks..their defense wasnt stopping nobody....they got lucky with the marshawn lynch fumble and the stop on 4th and 1 in their redzone....Seattle/Lynch is better than that...ATL has no pass rush at all and i can easily see kapernick run wild like he did against GB, wouldn't even be surprised if he reached 200yd rushing lol.
its matt ryans first time in NFC championship and you think the pressure was let off after he won his first playoff game? what kind of reasoning is this!
are you aware--- atlanta has benn gashed by mobile QBs and, they dont know how to close games---just get lucky--- s raiders,panthers,seattle, just to mention...and collin being on the road has nothing or no effect, he already experienced the pressure of a play off game and won, yes at home, but after a bad start he came back roaring, poised, i shall remind you people this kid went to foxborough and won, yes a regular game, with balls bouncing on SF way, but vs better QB , coach and team, and he just won a game vs a better QB coach and team
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are you aware--- atlanta has benn gashed by mobile QBs and, they dont know how to close games---just get lucky--- s raiders,panthers,seattle, just to mention...and collin being on the road has nothing or no effect, he already experienced the pressure of a play off game and won, yes at home, but after a bad start he came back roaring, poised, i shall remind you people this kid went to foxborough and won, yes a regular game, with balls bouncing on SF way, but vs better QB , coach and team, and he just won a game vs a better QB coach and team
those 3 road losses were to a good minnesota team, seattle and st louis...st louis was 5-1 ATS against divsional opponents...so dont throw in the "away" factor as to why u think ATL will beat sf..
you ACTUALLY thinnk atl will beat sf? ATL shouldn't have won against the seahawks..their defense wasnt stopping nobody....they got lucky with the marshawn lynch fumble and the stop on 4th and 1 in their redzone....Seattle/Lynch is better than that...ATL has no pass rush at all and i can easily see kapernick run wild like he did against GB, wouldn't even be surprised if he reached 200yd rushing lol.
its matt ryans first time in NFC championship and you think the pressure was let off after he won his first playoff game? what kind of reasoning is this!
Same reasoning as other QBs in this spot. Remember Brad Johnson and Eli Manning both starting their career 0-2 in the post season before they got on a streak and won the Superbowl. This game is not just about Matt Ryan. While I do agree that there is more pressure, he is still at home and at least perhaps he is playing a little more loose regardless of the outcome given that he got his first playoff win. We shall see.
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
those 3 road losses were to a good minnesota team, seattle and st louis...st louis was 5-1 ATS against divsional opponents...so dont throw in the "away" factor as to why u think ATL will beat sf..
you ACTUALLY thinnk atl will beat sf? ATL shouldn't have won against the seahawks..their defense wasnt stopping nobody....they got lucky with the marshawn lynch fumble and the stop on 4th and 1 in their redzone....Seattle/Lynch is better than that...ATL has no pass rush at all and i can easily see kapernick run wild like he did against GB, wouldn't even be surprised if he reached 200yd rushing lol.
its matt ryans first time in NFC championship and you think the pressure was let off after he won his first playoff game? what kind of reasoning is this!
Same reasoning as other QBs in this spot. Remember Brad Johnson and Eli Manning both starting their career 0-2 in the post season before they got on a streak and won the Superbowl. This game is not just about Matt Ryan. While I do agree that there is more pressure, he is still at home and at least perhaps he is playing a little more loose regardless of the outcome given that he got his first playoff win. We shall see.
are you aware--- atlanta has benn gashed by mobile QBs and, they dont know how to close games---just get lucky--- s raiders,panthers,seattle, just to mention...and collin being on the road has nothing or no effect, he already experienced the pressure of a play off game and won, yes at home, but after a bad start he came back roaring, poised, i shall remind you people this kid went to foxborough and won, yes a regular game, with balls bouncing on SF way, but vs better QB , coach and team, and he just won a game vs a better QB coach and team
You say lucky but does it matter how ugly a team wins they still win. There are many teams that win ugly. Remember this ATL team plays in the same conference as Cam Newton so yeah I know they have seen many a mobile QB (Newton, RGIII, Wilson, etc) but I have to tell you if Kaep has to run to win this game I am not sure they do so. 49ers have big playmakers in Crabtree and Davis and Kaep is going to have more success getting those two involved than trying to run against ATL. Also note that of those QBs mentioned... they might have had success running against ATL but they lose didn't win the game. That is what we are talking about here.
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Quote Originally Posted by shark_apreza:
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are you aware--- atlanta has benn gashed by mobile QBs and, they dont know how to close games---just get lucky--- s raiders,panthers,seattle, just to mention...and collin being on the road has nothing or no effect, he already experienced the pressure of a play off game and won, yes at home, but after a bad start he came back roaring, poised, i shall remind you people this kid went to foxborough and won, yes a regular game, with balls bouncing on SF way, but vs better QB , coach and team, and he just won a game vs a better QB coach and team
You say lucky but does it matter how ugly a team wins they still win. There are many teams that win ugly. Remember this ATL team plays in the same conference as Cam Newton so yeah I know they have seen many a mobile QB (Newton, RGIII, Wilson, etc) but I have to tell you if Kaep has to run to win this game I am not sure they do so. 49ers have big playmakers in Crabtree and Davis and Kaep is going to have more success getting those two involved than trying to run against ATL. Also note that of those QBs mentioned... they might have had success running against ATL but they lose didn't win the game. That is what we are talking about here.
if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
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if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
Absolutely I watched the game. But did you just start watching NFL football this year? Since when have you been able to pull everything you saw in one game into the next game? SF looked pretty damn vulnerable against the pass. Rodgers was able to pass on SF don't you think that ATL with far superior WRs and TE can do the same thing AT HOME? Personally I think ATL wins straight up but that is just my humble opinion. BOL!
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
Absolutely I watched the game. But did you just start watching NFL football this year? Since when have you been able to pull everything you saw in one game into the next game? SF looked pretty damn vulnerable against the pass. Rodgers was able to pass on SF don't you think that ATL with far superior WRs and TE can do the same thing AT HOME? Personally I think ATL wins straight up but that is just my humble opinion. BOL!
You say lucky but does it matter how ugly a team wins they still win. There are many teams that win ugly. Remember this ATL team plays in the same conference as Cam Newton so yeah I know they have seen many a mobile QB (Newton, RGIII, Wilson, etc) but I have to tell you if Kaep has to run to win this game I am not sure they do so. 49ers have big playmakers in Crabtree and Davis and Kaep is going to have more success getting those two involved than trying to run against ATL. Also note that of those QBs mentioned... they might have had success running against ATL but they lose didn't win the game. That is what we are talking about here.
kapernick is definately goin to run wild....and it doesn't matter about if they have experience with mobile QBs cuz for example....1) Washington doens't have a defense to stop ATL's offense..and if RG3 didn't get hurt that game, they would've had a great chance to upset the falcons... 2) cam newton doesn't have a good enough team to keep up with the falcons...but sf is just like sea..with better receivers/te and D line
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Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:
You say lucky but does it matter how ugly a team wins they still win. There are many teams that win ugly. Remember this ATL team plays in the same conference as Cam Newton so yeah I know they have seen many a mobile QB (Newton, RGIII, Wilson, etc) but I have to tell you if Kaep has to run to win this game I am not sure they do so. 49ers have big playmakers in Crabtree and Davis and Kaep is going to have more success getting those two involved than trying to run against ATL. Also note that of those QBs mentioned... they might have had success running against ATL but they lose didn't win the game. That is what we are talking about here.
kapernick is definately goin to run wild....and it doesn't matter about if they have experience with mobile QBs cuz for example....1) Washington doens't have a defense to stop ATL's offense..and if RG3 didn't get hurt that game, they would've had a great chance to upset the falcons... 2) cam newton doesn't have a good enough team to keep up with the falcons...but sf is just like sea..with better receivers/te and D line
in playoffs..i just go with the hotter team...im not gonna look back to what happened in weeks 1-6...cuz they are irrelevent in the playoffs...sometimes can start bad and end hot....other teams can have games they lost where it left u scratching ur head..i just look at the overall picture...i bet seahawks +2.5 cuz i really believed they could upset falcons and i still do even after watching them lose...i knew their secondary could handle the ATLs receiving corp and that ATLs defense is weak...but unfortunate turnovers happened and ATL got away with the last second fg.....
anyway im done bickerin...we'll c come sunday....GL
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in playoffs..i just go with the hotter team...im not gonna look back to what happened in weeks 1-6...cuz they are irrelevent in the playoffs...sometimes can start bad and end hot....other teams can have games they lost where it left u scratching ur head..i just look at the overall picture...i bet seahawks +2.5 cuz i really believed they could upset falcons and i still do even after watching them lose...i knew their secondary could handle the ATLs receiving corp and that ATLs defense is weak...but unfortunate turnovers happened and ATL got away with the last second fg.....
anyway im done bickerin...we'll c come sunday....GL
Absolutely I watched the game. But did you just start watching NFL football this year? Since when have you been able to pull everything you saw in one game into the next game? SF looked pretty damn vulnerable against the pass. Rodgers was able to pass on SF don't you think that ATL with far superior WRs and TE can do the same thing AT HOME? Personally I think ATL wins straight up but that is just my humble opinion. BOL!
julio jones and roddy white are definately better than any wr in GB, but GB's receiving corp as a whole is definately better than ATL...they have too many options...
i feel like u give home factor way too much love...its like ppl betting against seattle cuz they suck on the road...i think they won over 50% of the road games this year?? if im not mistaken
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Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:
Absolutely I watched the game. But did you just start watching NFL football this year? Since when have you been able to pull everything you saw in one game into the next game? SF looked pretty damn vulnerable against the pass. Rodgers was able to pass on SF don't you think that ATL with far superior WRs and TE can do the same thing AT HOME? Personally I think ATL wins straight up but that is just my humble opinion. BOL!
julio jones and roddy white are definately better than any wr in GB, but GB's receiving corp as a whole is definately better than ATL...they have too many options...
i feel like u give home factor way too much love...its like ppl betting against seattle cuz they suck on the road...i think they won over 50% of the road games this year?? if im not mistaken
in playoffs..i just go with the hotter team...im not gonna look back to what happened in weeks 1-6...cuz they are irrelevent in the playoffs...sometimes can start bad and end hot....other teams can have games they lost where it left u scratching ur head..i just look at the overall picture...i bet seahawks +2.5 cuz i really believed they could upset falcons and i still do even after watching them lose...i knew their secondary could handle the ATLs receiving corp and that ATLs defense is weak...but unfortunate turnovers happened and ATL got away with the last second fg.....
anyway im done bickerin...we'll c come sunday....GL
To each their own man. That is why sports gambling is so much fun. One person will be right and one will be wrong. Hell if I was always right I would quit me real job and only do this but that is why it is a hobby for fun. One might say that SEA was lucky that ATL allowed the backdoor cover after being dominated all game long. Maybe their learned from that maybe they haven't. But I know this... bookie make more money off of people betting with emotion and knee jerk reactions than anything. I assure you if someone comes in here on SF and cannot even concieve of the possibility that ATL can win let alone cover the bookies got you right where they want you. Of course not saying that is what you are saying by any means just making a point. BOL on your play!
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
in playoffs..i just go with the hotter team...im not gonna look back to what happened in weeks 1-6...cuz they are irrelevent in the playoffs...sometimes can start bad and end hot....other teams can have games they lost where it left u scratching ur head..i just look at the overall picture...i bet seahawks +2.5 cuz i really believed they could upset falcons and i still do even after watching them lose...i knew their secondary could handle the ATLs receiving corp and that ATLs defense is weak...but unfortunate turnovers happened and ATL got away with the last second fg.....
anyway im done bickerin...we'll c come sunday....GL
To each their own man. That is why sports gambling is so much fun. One person will be right and one will be wrong. Hell if I was always right I would quit me real job and only do this but that is why it is a hobby for fun. One might say that SEA was lucky that ATL allowed the backdoor cover after being dominated all game long. Maybe their learned from that maybe they haven't. But I know this... bookie make more money off of people betting with emotion and knee jerk reactions than anything. I assure you if someone comes in here on SF and cannot even concieve of the possibility that ATL can win let alone cover the bookies got you right where they want you. Of course not saying that is what you are saying by any means just making a point. BOL on your play!
if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
Umm ... I think SF blew a 28-pt lead themselves to NE in about1 quarter. Almost a bigger choke than Atl.
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
if thats the case..then tony romo should've won his 2nd playoff game after his 1st, no? it might not be the same situation but come on, did you NOT watch this game?
ATL was fortunate to cause a lynch fumble and stop seahawks on 4th and 1 in the redzone in the 1st half...but other than that..seahawks had no problem moving the ball...zach miller pretty much had a career game....and ATL couldn't rush the passer...the only good Dlineman they got (john abraham) got injured...russel wilson NEVER flinched...
i feel like the most important thing in playoffs is DEFENSE....and ATLs defense will not have the same success with the 49ers as they did against the seahawks....and besides that, whos defense do u think is stronger? dont say ATL cuz good defenses dont let opponents catch up like that..no matter how big of a lead they have
Umm ... I think SF blew a 28-pt lead themselves to NE in about1 quarter. Almost a bigger choke than Atl.
julio jones and roddy white are definately better than any wr in GB, but GB's receiving corp as a whole is definately better than ATL...they have too many options...
i feel like u give home factor way too much love...its like ppl betting against seattle cuz they suck on the road...i think they won over 50% of the road games this year?? if im not mistaken
While I agree homefield means less in the postseason (case in point BAL) than the regular season but it is still pretty damn important. This year the home team has won every game but two (SEA two weeks ago and BAL this week). Also, GB utilizes more of their receivers as part of their package whereas ATL only uses two WRs, two TEs and two RBs for the most part. Of course if I had Roddy White and Julio Jones as my two WRs I don't know if I would ever go three WR very often either (especially with Tony G and one of those three are in the slot... deadly). BOL!
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
julio jones and roddy white are definately better than any wr in GB, but GB's receiving corp as a whole is definately better than ATL...they have too many options...
i feel like u give home factor way too much love...its like ppl betting against seattle cuz they suck on the road...i think they won over 50% of the road games this year?? if im not mistaken
While I agree homefield means less in the postseason (case in point BAL) than the regular season but it is still pretty damn important. This year the home team has won every game but two (SEA two weeks ago and BAL this week). Also, GB utilizes more of their receivers as part of their package whereas ATL only uses two WRs, two TEs and two RBs for the most part. Of course if I had Roddy White and Julio Jones as my two WRs I don't know if I would ever go three WR very often either (especially with Tony G and one of those three are in the slot... deadly). BOL!
Umm ... I think SF blew a 28-pt lead themselves to NE in about1 quarter. Almost a bigger choke than Atl.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the next game, SF let Sea hang 42 (35 if you count the blocked FG) on them. 76 pts on the road in two games ... just saying
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Quote Originally Posted by larnoohs:
Umm ... I think SF blew a 28-pt lead themselves to NE in about1 quarter. Almost a bigger choke than Atl.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the next game, SF let Sea hang 42 (35 if you count the blocked FG) on them. 76 pts on the road in two games ... just saying
loving the people saying that falcons stopped seattle by luck. theyvgot lucky with the sack before the half. they got lucky stopping lynch on fourth and 1. i guess better to be lucky than good huh? same story every week....falcons got lucky the other team is better. you cant get lucky and have the most game winning drives in the league since 2008. what is matt ryans knock now. he got his team to a big lead. when the other team came back and took the lead, he camr in, made two clutch throws and got his team in position to win the game
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loving the people saying that falcons stopped seattle by luck. theyvgot lucky with the sack before the half. they got lucky stopping lynch on fourth and 1. i guess better to be lucky than good huh? same story every week....falcons got lucky the other team is better. you cant get lucky and have the most game winning drives in the league since 2008. what is matt ryans knock now. he got his team to a big lead. when the other team came back and took the lead, he camr in, made two clutch throws and got his team in position to win the game
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