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Im seeing shades of Ryan Leaf and Tim Couch...

Do not,,, I repeat  Do not pass up on RG3

 
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I disagree 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bad:

I disagree 


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lol, why because he is fast? I totally disregarded everything you said after you compared him to Tim Couch..
 
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Don't think you could go wrong with either one
 
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The Luck kid actually ran a faster time than Cam Newton! And, remember, Newton was described as "athletic"..........read into that what you will.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

Im seeing shades of Akili Smith and Jamarcus Russell...

Do not,,, I repeat  Do not pass up on Andrew Luck




No doubt.
 
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Unlike Leaf and Couch, that "white boy" has actually got a brain.

I like RGIII, but whose to say he won't turn out to be the next Akili Smith?

 
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Wrong.
 
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Yea, "Black Boys" are always great NFL quarterbacks.   


Jamarcus Russell	LSU	        2007
Troy Smith	        Ohio State	2007
Tarvaris Jackson	Alabama State	2006
Vince Young	        Texas	        2006
Jason Campbell	        Auburn	        2005
Seneca Wallace          Iowa State	2005
Quinn Gray	        Florida A&M	2004
Cleo Lemon	        Arkansas State	2004
Byron Leftwich	        Marshall	2003
Henry Burris	        Temple	        2002
Rohan Davey	        LSU	        2002
David Garrard	        East Carolina	2002
Quincy Carter	        Georgia	        2001
Jarious Jackson	        Notre Dame	2001
Tee Martin	        Tennessee	2001
Michael Vick	        Virginia Tech	2001
Aaron Brooks	        Virginia	2000
Michael Bishop	        Kansas State	2000
Dameyune Craig	        Auburn	        2000
Anthony Wright	        South Carolina	2000
Spergon Wynn	        Southwest TX St.2000
Daunte Culpepper	Central Florida	1999
Shaun King	        Tulane	        1999
Donovan McNabb	        Syracuse	1999
Akili Smith	        Oregon        	1999
Charlie Batch	        Eastern Michigan1998
Wally Richardson	Penn State	1997
Tony Banks	        Michigan State	1996
Ray Lucas	        Rutgers	        1996
Steve McNair	        Alcorn State	1995
Kordell Stewart	        Colorado	1995
Jeff Blake	        East Carolina	1992
Shawn Moore	        Virginia	1992
Andre Ware	        Houston	        1990
Rodney Peete	        USC	        1989
Mark Stevens	        Utah	        1987
Walter Briggs	        Montclair State	1987
Larry Miller	        Northern Iowa	1987
Willie Gillus	        Norfolk State	1987
Bernard Quarles	        Hawaii	        1987
Tony Robinson	        Tennessee	1987
Willie Totten	        Miss. Valley St.1987
Reggie Collier	        Southern Miss.	1986
Randall Cunningham	Nevada-Las Vegas1985
Warren Moon	        Washington	1984
Doug Williams	        Grambling State	1978
Vince Evans	        USC	        1977
Parnell Dickinson	Miss. Valley St.1976
Dave Mays	        Texas Southern	1976
J.J. Jones              Fisk  	        1975
Tony Adams	        Utah State	1975
Joe Gilliam	        Tennessee State	1972
James Harris	        Grambling State	1969
Marlin Briscoe	        Nebraska-Omaha	1968
Charlie Brackins	Prairie View A&M1955
Willie Thrower	        Michigan State	1953
George Taliaferro	Indiana	        1950
Fritz Pollard	        Brown	        1920

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bad:

I disagree 



Me 2...
 
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rg3 will be a good receiver and hb toss option...

whatever team picks his hype will be lucky enough to have the next slash.....

im just sayin

 
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Luck had like a 11ft long jump and very good vertical jump too. He will tear it up in the NFL.
 
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Don't need huge speed to be a great NFL QB.  You need brains, accuracy and a little escapability.  Both RG3 and Luck have all of those.  Luck still gets the edge in regards to accuracy and brains.

Both Mannings
Rodgers
Brees
Stafford
Rivers
Romo
Cutler

All pretty darn good and don't run much.  Vick and Newton are what I consider passing QB's that can run.  It's not like they are way better than the ones listed above. 

Running is FAR from a prerequisite for being a solid NFL QB.

That said, RG3 can certainly throw it....but not like Luck.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

Yea, "Black Boys" are always great NFL quarterbacks.   


Jamarcus Russell	LSU	        2007
Troy Smith	        Ohio State	2007
Tarvaris Jackson	Alabama State	2006
Vince Young	        Texas	        2006
Jason Campbell	        Auburn	        2005
Seneca Wallace          Iowa State	2005
Quinn Gray	        Florida A&M	2004
Cleo Lemon	        Arkansas State	2004
Byron Leftwich	        Marshall	2003
Henry Burris	        Temple	        2002
Rohan Davey	        LSU	        2002
David Garrard	        East Carolina	2002
Quincy Carter	        Georgia	        2001
Jarious Jackson	        Notre Dame	2001
Tee Martin	        Tennessee	2001
Michael Vick	        Virginia Tech	2001
Aaron Brooks	        Virginia	2000
Michael Bishop	        Kansas State	2000
Dameyune Craig	        Auburn	        2000
Anthony Wright	        South Carolina	2000
Spergon Wynn	        Southwest TX St.2000
Daunte Culpepper	Central Florida	1999
Shaun King	        Tulane	        1999
Donovan McNabb	        Syracuse	1999
Akili Smith	        Oregon        	1999
Charlie Batch	        Eastern Michigan1998
Wally Richardson	Penn State	1997
Tony Banks	        Michigan State	1996
Ray Lucas	        Rutgers	        1996
Steve McNair	        Alcorn State	1995
Kordell Stewart	        Colorado	1995
Jeff Blake	        East Carolina	1992
Shawn Moore	        Virginia	1992
Andre Ware	        Houston	        1990
Rodney Peete	        USC	        1989
Mark Stevens	        Utah	        1987
Walter Briggs	        Montclair State	1987
Larry Miller	        Northern Iowa	1987
Willie Gillus	        Norfolk State	1987
Bernard Quarles	        Hawaii	        1987
Tony Robinson	        Tennessee	1987
Willie Totten	        Miss. Valley St.1987
Reggie Collier	        Southern Miss.	1986
Randall Cunningham	Nevada-Las Vegas1985
Warren Moon	        Washington	1984
Doug Williams	        Grambling State	1978
Vince Evans	        USC	        1977
Parnell Dickinson	Miss. Valley St.1976
Dave Mays	        Texas Southern	1976
J.J. Jones              Fisk  	        1975
Tony Adams	        Utah State	1975
Joe Gilliam	        Tennessee State	1972
James Harris	        Grambling State	1969
Marlin Briscoe	        Nebraska-Omaha	1968
Charlie Brackins	Prairie View A&M1955
Willie Thrower	        Michigan State	1953
George Taliaferro	Indiana	        1950
Fritz Pollard	        Brown	        1920


I could post a list of white QB's who sucked that is 5 times as long. And since when wasn't McNabb a decent QB?  Last few years sucked, but he was far from a bust.  
 
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Ahh, I get it.  It's just a complete list of black QB's.  Plenty of white boys who were complete failures, though.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


I could post a list of white QB's who sucked that is 5 times as long. And since when wasn't McNabb a decent QB?  Last few years sucked, but he was far from a bust.  







That's a list of EVERY black QB who played in the NFL from 2007 back.     If somebody can find the last 4 years of black quarterbacks, post it.
 
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I am just not sold on Luck, Stanford plays in a terrible conference. He reminds me of ole glass jaw Leinart..looks good against mediocre talent on a good team but I just dont see Luck as someone who is tough and smart enough to carry a bad team.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

Yea, "Black Boys" are always great NFL quarterbacks.   


Jamarcus Russell	LSU	        2007
Troy Smith	        Ohio State	2007
Tarvaris Jackson	Alabama State	2006
Vince Young	        Texas	        2006
Jason Campbell	        Auburn	        2005
Seneca Wallace          Iowa State	2005
Quinn Gray	        Florida A&M	2004
Cleo Lemon	        Arkansas State	2004
Byron Leftwich	        Marshall	2003
Henry Burris	        Temple	        2002
Rohan Davey	        LSU	        2002
David Garrard	        East Carolina	2002
Quincy Carter	        Georgia	        2001
Jarious Jackson	        Notre Dame	2001
Tee Martin	        Tennessee	2001
Michael Vick	        Virginia Tech	2001
Aaron Brooks	        Virginia	2000
Michael Bishop	        Kansas State	2000
Dameyune Craig	        Auburn	        2000
Anthony Wright	        South Carolina	2000
Spergon Wynn	        Southwest TX St.2000
Daunte Culpepper	Central Florida	1999
Shaun King	        Tulane	        1999
Donovan McNabb	        Syracuse	1999
Akili Smith	        Oregon        	1999
Charlie Batch	        Eastern Michigan1998
Wally Richardson	Penn State	1997
Tony Banks	        Michigan State	1996
Ray Lucas	        Rutgers	        1996
Steve McNair	        Alcorn State	1995
Kordell Stewart	        Colorado	1995
Jeff Blake	        East Carolina	1992
Shawn Moore	        Virginia	1992
Andre Ware	        Houston	        1990
Rodney Peete	        USC	        1989
Mark Stevens	        Utah	        1987
Walter Briggs	        Montclair State	1987
Larry Miller	        Northern Iowa	1987
Willie Gillus	        Norfolk State	1987
Bernard Quarles	        Hawaii	        1987
Tony Robinson	        Tennessee	1987
Willie Totten	        Miss. Valley St.1987
Reggie Collier	        Southern Miss.	1986
Randall Cunningham	Nevada-Las Vegas1985
Warren Moon	        Washington	1984
Doug Williams	        Grambling State	1978
Vince Evans	        USC	        1977
Parnell Dickinson	Miss. Valley St.1976
Dave Mays	        Texas Southern	1976
J.J. Jones              Fisk  	        1975
Tony Adams	        Utah State	1975
Joe Gilliam	        Tennessee State	1972
James Harris	        Grambling State	1969
Marlin Briscoe	        Nebraska-Omaha	1968
Charlie Brackins	Prairie View A&M1955
Willie Thrower	        Michigan State	1953
George Taliaferro	Indiana	        1950
Fritz Pollard	        Brown	        1920


 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

I am just not sold on Luck, Stanford plays in a terrible conference. He reminds me of ole glass jaw Leinart..looks good against mediocre talent on a good team but I just dont see Luck as someone who is tough and smart enough to carry a bad team.




I'm not sold on RG for the same reason.  The Big 12 was terrible this year with most of the secondaries looking like keystone cops out there.  Look at most of RG3's highlights.  It's a bunch of 50-60 yard plays where there is no defender within 10 yards of the receiver.  RG didn't have to be accurate.  Gonna be some tight coverages in the NFL.
 
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Running QB is just not the best formula.  It helps to have foot speed and be able to escape and throw on the run, but you just can't run at that position for a living.  You will get killed.  Will Vick ever play another full season?  Even he's learned to throw first.
 
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I thought this thread was going to refer to Peyton Manning.  Good thing they didn't pass on that white boy when they drafted him.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Henry-Lilly:



I'm not sold on RG for the same reason.  The Big 12 was terrible this year with most of the secondaries looking like keystone cops out there.  Look at most of RG3's highlights.  It's a bunch of 50-60 yard plays where there is no defender within 10 yards of the receiver.  RG didn't have to be accurate.  Gonna be some tight coverages in the NFL.

Quite true..

I would rather draft a chippy QB from a tough conference who can take a hit than a highlight reel player from a crappy one.


 
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Ryan Leaf was a head case. Kind of like Greyhound is here.
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

I am just not sold on Luck, Stanford plays in a terrible conference. He reminds me of ole glass jaw Leinart..looks good against mediocre talent on a good team but I just dont see Luck as someone who is tough and smart enough to carry a bad team.


Aaron Rodgers played in that "terrible" conference as well. he turned out alright. Henry Lilly beat me to it, but I was going to point out the same regarding RGIII.

Luck IS tough and smart enough to lead a bad team. Just how that is to transpire on the NFL level is anyone's guess, but just look at Stanford outside of Andrew Luck, where is the talent? Two highly touted offensive linemen and a TE that Luck made look good and that's about it. He turned a mediocre Stanford team into a real contender.

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