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Thanks and GL Mr. B.
 
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Not to mention their offensive line got man handled by the lions
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nurich:

Wow Ít´s  IT´S AMAZING HOW MR.BATOR CHANGE THE POINT OF VIEW OF EVERY GAME...I´M NOT AN EXPERT BUT SOMEYIMES THE TREND JUST SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE PRESENT AND I THINK IT´S THE TIME....DO YOU THINK LIKE YOU SAID THAT AS GREEN BAY HAD THE TIME TO PREPARE TO THIS GAME, NE HAS TOO.

THREE SIMPLE FACTS:

  • THE GAME IS IN NE..
  • GB IS TOTALLY DESTROY AND WITHOUT HIS QB (DID YOU WATCHED THE LAST GAME VS DETROIT)
  • THE NE OFFENSE IS GETTING BETTER EACH GAME
  • LOCK HOMEFIELD AD FOR PLAYOFF IF THE WIN.

I RESPECT MR. BATOR TREND AS ALWAYS BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

In this case i think It's all about running back Ben-Jarvus Green- Ellis. Ellis has come through for the Pats repeatedly, contributing 184 carries for 786 yards and 11 rushing TD's. The opponent is always thinking pass but in these cold weather games like Sunday against the Packer, expect Ellis to be a huge factor in this game.

Also Deion Branch has rejoined the Patriots and picked up where he left off.. In 9 games Branch has 648 yards and 5 TD's. He always comes through for Brady and that's why Bellichick brought him back. How can we forget Wes Welker. Welker has caught over 100 balls in a season and I still can't figure out why the Dolphins let him go. Welker has 80 receptions for 787 yards and 7 TD's. These receivers are very reliable and that's why Bellichick has them in New England.

So for me... NE -13,5 BIG..

Good luck guys!!!!

 

 

With all due respect, nurich, what new information did you just provide?  Did you just tell us anything we didn't already know?  How does your argument give you or anybody else an edge over this pointspread?

 
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Posted: #154
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

A few weeks ago the Eagles were unbeatable and the best team ever.  Now its the pats.  In a few weeks it will probably be another team. 

Gamblers have such short memories.

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Quote Originally Posted by bigtony29:

Lets not forget that GB has a terrible run game. Therefore, putting the ball in the air with Flynn is the best chance they have at moving the ball.I wouldn't put your money on GB.

 

 

Then bet on the Patriots.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigtony29:

GB- Cant run the ball and can't throw the ball with Flynn. Where the fuck do you see the value in a team that will struggle to get a measley first down?

 Blowout in every offensive statistic, only chance for GB cover is special teams and defensive TD's.  34-3 NE

 
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NYG -3

Anybody else like it?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by GGLeaf055:

Hey Bator, Would you use that buy low, sell high philosophy on the Boys/Skins game?

 

 

Nope.

 
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I feel like philly is such a public fav, this has to be a good line. game in meadowlands, for the division marbles.....

 
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24-21 Pack.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nurich:

Wow Ít´s  IT´S AMAZING HOW MR.BATOR CHANGE THE POINT OF VIEW OF EVERY GAME...I´M NOT AN EXPERT BUT SOMEYIMES THE TREND JUST SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE PRESENT AND I THINK IT´S THE TIME....DO YOU THINK LIKE YOU SAID THAT AS GREEN BAY HAD THE TIME TO PREPARE TO THIS GAME, NE HAS TOO.

THREE SIMPLE FACTS:

  • THE GAME IS IN NE..
  • GB IS TOTALLY DESTROY AND WITHOUT HIS QB (DID YOU WATCHED THE LAST GAME VS DETROIT)
  • THE NE OFFENSE IS GETTING BETTER EACH GAME
  • LOCK HOMEFIELD AD FOR PLAYOFF IF THE WIN.

I RESPECT MR. BATOR TREND AS ALWAYS BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

In this case i think It's all about running back Ben-Jarvus Green- Ellis. Ellis has come through for the Pats repeatedly, contributing 184 carries for 786 yards and 11 rushing TD's. The opponent is always thinking pass but in these cold weather games like Sunday against the Packer, expect Ellis to be a huge factor in this game.

Also Deion Branch has rejoined the Patriots and picked up where he left off.. In 9 games Branch has 648 yards and 5 TD's. He always comes through for Brady and that's why Bellichick brought him back. How can we forget Wes Welker. Welker has caught over 100 balls in a season and I still can't figure out why the Dolphins let him go. Welker has 80 receptions for 787 yards and 7 TD's. These receivers are very reliable and that's why Bellichick has them in New England.

So for me... NE -13,5 BIG..

Good luck guys!!!!



I'm impressed you were able to go from all caps without coming remotely close to typing in English, making sense, or being able to count to four all the way to coherent sentences spouting off the stats of the Patriots' offense (which, unfortunately, everyone already knows)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MRSARATOGA:

Good Write Up!  The only issue I have with this is that as much as there are certainly no locks in sports, I think it is fair to assume that New England won't lose the game.  Given that, Green Bay could be in a holding on situation for the cover and that could put the spread in a coin toss situation.

 

 

At the risk of sounding overconfident, I don't expect the Patriots to ever be in that kind of comfortable position tonight.  I think we're going to have a ballgame here.

 
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Do you see anything like your SF pick over Denver from a couple years back ?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

 

 

But they're not superhuman.  A football team, no matter how talented or smartly-coached, has to collectiely raise its game to a dizzying level to do what the Patriots have done in their last 2.5 games.  No NFL team can sustain this level of excellence for long.  You don't have to take my word for it, just check out the pointspread history I laid out already.  The Patriots are a cut above the rest for keeping the engine running at full throttle last Sunday in Chicago after blitzing the Lions in the second half, 35-7, and then completely squashing the Jets, 45-3.  Hats off to them for keeping it going in the snowstorm in Chicago.  It was truly amazing to watch them do that to the 9-3 Bears.  But expecting them to do blow out a fourth straight team after doing all that is not only asking too much, it's actually unfair to ask it of them, especially when the opponent is more worthy of a twinge of sympathy from them than anger and fire.

    I wouldn't say unfair, more like not neccasary. True, GB didn't give them a reason to get fired up, but you have to realize the Belicek way is to not let up regardless. He can't let his team get complacent, especially against a backup. I'm choosing to lay off here because I don't give any team 2 TDs.

 
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If I'm still playing with house money I'll invest a few with bator and GB
 
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Usually side with you Bator but this one I have to go the other way..............Im thinking 42-10...................
 
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Give me Pats -20 and I'll still take them. Rookie QB in inclument rainy weather spells numerous turnovers and Int's.

 

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by worthashot:

What we all forget is that every player in the NFL is a world class athlete who also happens to be one of the best football players in the world.  A 14 pt. fav. lets down just a tiny bit, the dog plays just a little inspired and, boom, there ya go.

 

 

That's right.  It happens time and time again.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by efro:



I'm impressed you were able to go from all caps without coming remotely close to typing in English, making sense, or being able to count to four all the way to coherent sentences spouting off the stats of the Patriots' offense (which, unfortunately, everyone already knows)
Maybe what nurich left out is that since Mankins has returned the performance of the Patriots has stepped up a notch or two. As mentioned earlier the loss to Cleveland was the perfect wakeup call and a reminder if you don't bring your A-game every game it will be a long day. I asked myself what the spread would be if Rodgers was playing today? He's not worth more than a point or point and a half max. I also wonder how many times we'll hear Clay Matthew's name make a big play.....it definitely won't be as much as you might think.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by willywagtail:

Don't underestimate Matt Flynn! He was the BCS National Championship Offensive MVP in 2008!
Yeah, but that's the BCS. I'm just reminded of Reggie Bush- Heisman winner in 2006- look what happened to him in New Orleans.
I know Flynn has had a bit of time to get ready, but 3 pts. against a "fair" at best Lions team...scary call for me, but.
 
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Great write up!!! You make great points, I just cannot see GB covering on this one with Flynn at all, but  on your pick. 

NE 35 - Fudge 10


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Dwood:

Patriots have already won 3 games in a row by 20+!!  As respected as you are Bator, this seems like an odd spot to go out on your shield.  By the way this exact same organization won 8 in a row by 17+ in 2007.  This team looks to be playing at that level right now.  The Patriots have been exceptions to your statistical argument twice in the last four years.  Just Saying...

 

 

No, they haven't.  Tell me which games they were that you think fit my statistical argument.  They don't exist.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by peterhugh1213:

Did anyone actually watch the Packers backup qb play last week ? cmon - he blows ! and against Tom Brady at home ?? - Patriots will crush !

 

 

Thank you, Joe.  Always good to hear from old Mr. P. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by mischkin04:

    I wouldn't say unfair, more like not neccasary. True, GB didn't give them a reason to get fired up, but you have to realize the Belicek way is to not let up regardless. He can't let his team get complacent, especially against a backup. I'm choosing to lay off here because I don't give any team 2 TDs.

Bellicek and Brady are not immune to situations like this, it just applied to them last season and the failed to cover the next week.

In 2007 they were 8-0 ATS , then went 2-9 ATS in their remaining games, it appears Belicek did let up, or, more accurately, became overvalued on the spread after those big wins when the luck-based plays were going their way and once overvalued and no longer recieveing all the luck-based plays could not cover the inflated lines, sounds like this weeks game.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

Look, if you can't get past "Flynn vs. Brady" then you definetely haven't overthought this one.  On September 30, 2001, people weren't "overthinking" "Brady vs. Manning" and they lost that bet by 45 points!

 

Colts 44 Patriots 13 (Tom Brady's first career start 9/30/01 - the Pats were a 14-point dog)

 

 

 

Whoops, it was Patriots 44 Colts 13.  See, that's how much of a shocker it was!  Even nine years later my mind can't process it.

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