The money game of the year is upon us: Pats @ Saints

REALLY... wow apparently you have been drinking with saintsFans... let me enlighten you and I will expect an retraction of clearly a bogus statement when I get done.  You are taking a lead from saintsfan in not actually using an real FACTS before posting an opinion.  Let me drop some actual FACTS on both of you.  First, MIN through Week 11 have faced opponents with a combined record of 36-64.  So based on your comment I expect NO faced some much tougher competition right... WRONG.  Though Week 11 NO faced opponents with a combined record of 37-63.  So the ONE GAME difference really shows how much stronger of a schedule NO had to face this year RIGHT?

My biggest point of contention has to do with NO schedule down the stretch (from this point going forward).  NO plays opponents with a combined record of 27-33 (that is six games below .500) andn the only times they play anyone going forward with a winning record (NE and DAL) they do so at home.  Whereas, MIN plays opponents with a combined record of 32-28 (that is four game ABOVE .500) and they play two winning teams on the road.  I don't even need to get into the fact that NO played PHI (with a winning record) with McNabb so that is a little flawed but I counted it in their whole ONE WIN difference from MIN.  But you can believe what you want to believe, but NO schedule hasn't been that tough.  LOL on anyone who thinks otherwise.

I dare anyone to show me how I am wrong.

Agree with the OP and most of the Pats backers on here.  The Patriots will make better adjustments on defense and <gulp>, don't be fooled - there offense is explosive and every bit as good or better than the Saints.  Pats letting up about 17 pts per game but I think the play is the Pats + over here.

Pats 38-24.

GL all.

I would love to book that........no way the Pats win by 10....ML maybe but 10 come on man.

Wow very nice stats... I have to say what side of his ass is renroh123 speaking out of here.  For the record, I completely agree that NE will blow out NO this week.  Funny think is that the public will be shocked by NO losest a by 10 or more points.  I was on NE ML +160 right when the lines were released.  If will also be playing a pleaser with another team for plus money too.  BOL!

saintsfan this is the second time now that I have to say you are beyond a homer.  This is a gambling site and you need to check your fan bias at the door.  BOL to all!

lol... uhh yeah....espn.com.... did you just grab that out of mid air, or is your calculator broken? ..lol...ok... I will break it down if anyone cares

Ill shoot you a pm after the game bro

LOL.... so, it PROVES I know nothing about gambling....Sir, I live in Vegas, and wage daily...it is about the math....that you, obviously, do not understand.  In a game like this; is it probable that if these two team played 9 games (with all things the same as they are now, and before gametime...i.e. injuries, rooster, coaches, ect) would the Pats win by 13.5 pts one time out of 10? Absolutely! and if that is the case, that bet is a good bet... let me paint it out for you, as you obviously don't understand a true cappers mathematical logic... if I made that bet 10 times, lost 9, I would lose 900....it hits 1 time, and the odds being +1000 I win 1000... a net profit of +$100... I know there are some pro cappers on here that are nodding their heads as they read this, and the only ones that would contest it, such as yourself; who looks at each bets odds as just the extra you make for any bet won.... the point is... if you look at the yankees playing the Tigers in NY with sabathia pitching and you are getting +400, but are sure that the tigers would win 1 out of 3 times.... you bet it, and you will lose it 2 out of 3 times, but if all your bets are made with that logic, you will win like games 1 of 3 times, and profit on those bets +$100..... My friend, it is you who know little, shown that you know little, and are still, after reading this, too ignorant in what we are talking about to know that you just exposed this.

First off... admittedly, I did reply to the Saintsfan's comment about Vikes/Saints schedule toughness off the cuff..... no doubt...this is a Saints/Pats post afterall....secondly, I will not retract my statement, but will say that the Saints did not play a tougher schedule....they played about the same schedule....An easy one...you talk about playing the steelers, but you lost (vikes).. the only team either one of you played that rates in the top ten in offense, and defense is you (vikes); you played the steelers, which brought up your average (below), but you lost once again.... and even with the steelers in your played history...you both played just about identically rated defenses, and you (vikes) played  SLIGHTLY better offenses....BUT... their (saints) opponents won 1 more game than yours, and thier opponent lost 2 less games....... I would be hard pressed to find an experienced, non biased oppinion that would contest the fact that 1) you both had nearly the same rated schedule and 2) neither one of you played and beat anyone worth mentioning as high quality

the next post contains the supporting info

it will not let me post the whole thing...somehow I am over max characters.. I can email it to whoever wants the doc...

totals are

Saints

Totals   37                    63                    18.5 average    19.4 average

Saints

Obviously a Saints fan that lacks mathematical skills, or just has not clue how to calculate averages.... I will paint it out, and provide a link to espn for anyone wanting to validate:

the opponent is listed followed by the overall D rating/O rating (team d rating/o rating),

Saints played: Detroit 31/24, eagles 8/11, bills 25/28, jets 5/20, Giants 2/4, miami 19/23, falcons 28/14, panthers 11/15, rams 29/26, bucs 27/29........ that equals 185 divided by 10 games = 18.5. defense....194 divided by 10 games = 19.4.... you had 24.3 and 20.5???

NE played: Bills 25/28, Jets 5/20, falcons 28/14, Ravens 9/13, Broncos 7/22, Titans 26/18, Bucs 27/29, Dolphins 19/23, , Colts 15/3, Jets 5/14....... that equals   166 defense divided by 10= 16.6, and 184 on offense divided by 10 = 18.4...... you got 21.5 and 21.2....... I am hoping many see this and realize you are one of the idiots who post bogus info b/c you either dont know how to get the real deal, or you would rather just wing it..... You should not be paid any attention to on here.... many of us are here to make money bro

Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

that's probably because the #'s  you posted are not accurate

I stand behind my figures, though you sit back and comment that they are incorrect.  Tell me what is incorrect, I will prove it, and provide links to support them.... just to expose you as a voice that should not be given credibility.

and when the game is finished, I will ridicule you on your every post I come across..lol

Ill go easy on you b/c you are a fellow Steeler Nation member... but I will send you a PM after the game to state "I told you so" later.

question...why would anyone on here give you a bit of credibility...you play and list your MLB history of picks, and not one nfl pick...how do we know you even follow football? lol.... granted, I only have 17 games played as I forget to pick them here, but I show them, and am over 50%........ go away idiot

Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan504:

The guy that started this thread probably never seen the Saints play this year, just going off of 2007 hype.

and the guy who posted the above has his pick history hidden for some reason....wonder why?? hmmm lol....what an idiot

https://www.scoresandodds.com/statfeed/statfeed.php?page=nfl/expanded&rotnum=230&date=2009-11-30

scroll down.  read

New standard reply to those who pick the NFL below 50%, or worse...hide their picks...make no mistake, the loudest people in these threads are the worst gamblers.  They cannot pick a winner to save their lives, and will never bring their average above 50% so they hide their plays, and run their mouths.  You don't rate a reply.

if you can't see the opportunity in this game; stop wagering now, and stick your money under your pillow