Brday was 17-1 the year after "spygate". He had 50 Touchdowns - the most ever. Let me guess -- he cheated that year too! This is SO OLD. First a Boston Homer -- Now an Indy Homer spewing complete trash.
18-1 after spygate, 16-0 regular season, won the division & afc title games, lost SB
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Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:
Brday was 17-1 the year after "spygate". He had 50 Touchdowns - the most ever. Let me guess -- he cheated that year too! This is SO OLD. First a Boston Homer -- Now an Indy Homer spewing complete trash.
18-1 after spygate, 16-0 regular season, won the division & afc title games, lost SB
We're all having this conversation now, but lets see what happens 10-20 years later in life when their careers are over and Manning only has one ring. Manning will be an afterthought, and everything he's accomplishing right now stat wise will be challenged buy some new stud in 2020. Brady's rings will speak for itself, while Manning's ring will hold the same weight as Trent Dilfers.
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We're all having this conversation now, but lets see what happens 10-20 years later in life when their careers are over and Manning only has one ring. Manning will be an afterthought, and everything he's accomplishing right now stat wise will be challenged buy some new stud in 2020. Brady's rings will speak for itself, while Manning's ring will hold the same weight as Trent Dilfers.
"we're only going to score 17 points? ha ha ha ha ha"
brady is douchey
manning's ring will hold the same weight as dilfer's... and brees's too?
thats such a lame argument, dilfer got his with a light's out defense among lots of mediocre NFL teams, peyton and brees are elite qbs
Elite or not, I think the point is that they all have one ring. Ask them to win a second, its tough. Brady has three of them and he played great games to either win or put his team in position to win. Most qbs never get the opportunity for multiple championships, but if you get the chance you have to win to be great.
Lets look at Big Ben. He made it there twice and won twice. By winning his second trophy he took it away from Kurt Warner. Warner made it there three times and won only once. His second trip there he had his chance for two titles taken away by Brady. Manning gets to dance twice, the first time he matched up against Grossman and second time he threw away his title to Drew Brees. I think that is where the difference is right now.
Overall Brady has played in greater games, he's won the shootouts and he's beaten all of the qbs to get his rings. He's beaten Warner, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Donovan Mcnabb, Rivers....and these were all exciting games that he's played in.
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Quote Originally Posted by bsforsale:
"we're only going to score 17 points? ha ha ha ha ha"
brady is douchey
manning's ring will hold the same weight as dilfer's... and brees's too?
thats such a lame argument, dilfer got his with a light's out defense among lots of mediocre NFL teams, peyton and brees are elite qbs
Elite or not, I think the point is that they all have one ring. Ask them to win a second, its tough. Brady has three of them and he played great games to either win or put his team in position to win. Most qbs never get the opportunity for multiple championships, but if you get the chance you have to win to be great.
Lets look at Big Ben. He made it there twice and won twice. By winning his second trophy he took it away from Kurt Warner. Warner made it there three times and won only once. His second trip there he had his chance for two titles taken away by Brady. Manning gets to dance twice, the first time he matched up against Grossman and second time he threw away his title to Drew Brees. I think that is where the difference is right now.
Overall Brady has played in greater games, he's won the shootouts and he's beaten all of the qbs to get his rings. He's beaten Warner, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Donovan Mcnabb, Rivers....and these were all exciting games that he's played in.
Elite or not, I think the point is that they all have one ring. Ask them to win a second, its tough. Brady has three of them and he played great games to either win or put his team in position to win. Most qbs never get the opportunity for multiple championships, but if you get the chance you have to win to be great.
Lets look at Big Ben. He made it there twice and won twice. By winning his second trophy he took it away from Kurt Warner. Warner made it there three times and won only once. His second trip there he had his chance for two titles taken away by Brady. Manning gets to dance twice, the first time he matched up against Grossman and second time he threw away his title to Drew Brees. I think that is where the difference is right now.
Overall Brady has played in greater games, he's won the shootouts and he's beaten all of the qbs to get his rings. He's beaten Warner, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Donovan Mcnabb, Rivers....and these were all exciting games that he's played in.
well said
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Quote Originally Posted by 2169:
Elite or not, I think the point is that they all have one ring. Ask them to win a second, its tough. Brady has three of them and he played great games to either win or put his team in position to win. Most qbs never get the opportunity for multiple championships, but if you get the chance you have to win to be great.
Lets look at Big Ben. He made it there twice and won twice. By winning his second trophy he took it away from Kurt Warner. Warner made it there three times and won only once. His second trip there he had his chance for two titles taken away by Brady. Manning gets to dance twice, the first time he matched up against Grossman and second time he threw away his title to Drew Brees. I think that is where the difference is right now.
Overall Brady has played in greater games, he's won the shootouts and he's beaten all of the qbs to get his rings. He's beaten Warner, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Donovan Mcnabb, Rivers....and these were all exciting games that he's played in.
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