https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/former-nfl-referee-telling-comment-on-super-bowl Coming from an actual NFL ref who has refereed super bowls. If this doesn't prove the obvious I don't know if anything will.
McAulay identified a significant disparity between the way pass interference is being called tonight and the way it had been all season.
“It’s very unusual to see the Super Bowl called significantly tighter in the passing game than the way it’s been called in the regular season,” McAulay wrote. “But there is no question that was true in the first half.
Appreciate the honesty of the original poster...I bought out of my KC bet after I became aware of the auto accident...you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.
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Quote Originally Posted by hehateme_OLD_15815:
https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/former-nfl-referee-telling-comment-on-super-bowl Coming from an actual NFL ref who has refereed super bowls. If this doesn't prove the obvious I don't know if anything will.
McAulay identified a significant disparity between the way pass interference is being called tonight and the way it had been all season.
“It’s very unusual to see the Super Bowl called significantly tighter in the passing game than the way it’s been called in the regular season,” McAulay wrote. “But there is no question that was true in the first half.
Appreciate the honesty of the original poster...I bought out of my KC bet after I became aware of the auto accident...you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.
That was a clear hold on Brady’s INT.. they showed the replay. Evans was being mugged past 2 yards..the biggest play of the game was Fat Andy calling timeout on 3rd and 2 with 47 seconds left at the Tampa 40 yard line to end the half which game Tampa a chance to score. Game over. Checkmate. No reason to call timeout there..
Except that they get paid big nfl money whether they win or lose. Entertainment. Wwe
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
That was a clear hold on Brady’s INT.. they showed the replay. Evans was being mugged past 2 yards..the biggest play of the game was Fat Andy calling timeout on 3rd and 2 with 47 seconds left at the Tampa 40 yard line to end the half which game Tampa a chance to score. Game over. Checkmate. No reason to call timeout there..
Except that they get paid big nfl money whether they win or lose. Entertainment. Wwe
Lmao you fools, crying over officiating. Do your homework, chiefs got away with everything against the niners. They were given a Super Bowl last year. So STFU. Move on. And it was BA time to win one. All the stars align for TB. But you idiots keep overthinking. Man you people, just can’t get over it huh? Lmao, Ima sleep good tonight. Don’t ever bet against Brady. Hope you all learn your lesson you newbs.
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Lmao you fools, crying over officiating. Do your homework, chiefs got away with everything against the niners. They were given a Super Bowl last year. So STFU. Move on. And it was BA time to win one. All the stars align for TB. But you idiots keep overthinking. Man you people, just can’t get over it huh? Lmao, Ima sleep good tonight. Don’t ever bet against Brady. Hope you all learn your lesson you newbs.
Ok you fucking dumb fucking putz. Listen here! Why in THE FUCK? Are you still on this board since it sounds like you knew the bet with 100% certainty TB would win and you put everything up, from cars, your mortgage ect on TB, won and come here afterwards to say, told you so?” Get the fuck out of here you fucking retarded little monkey!
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Ok you fucking dumb fucking putz. Listen here! Why in THE FUCK? Are you still on this board since it sounds like you knew the bet with 100% certainty TB would win and you put everything up, from cars, your mortgage ect on TB, won and come here afterwards to say, told you so?” Get the fuck out of here you fucking retarded little monkey!
You are an idiotif you think the games are scripted or they told Mahommes to throw those int's...... the refs may be told to help one team or another and that's as far as it goes.....you are fkin stupid if you think otherwise.......that would be the best kept secret in history
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You are an idiotif you think the games are scripted or they told Mahommes to throw those int's...... the refs may be told to help one team or another and that's as far as it goes.....you are fkin stupid if you think otherwise.......that would be the best kept secret in history
Secret? Lol you dumbass. Nfl states to the Supreme Court that it wouldn’t matter if it was fixed people would still watch it. Secondly. They stated they are an entertainment. Refs just in on it? Try the entire league. You’re completely delusional to think otherwise. IF there was no tampering with games, wouldn’t every team be considered it’s on entity? Separated from other teams? But they’re NOT! They’re all one in the same. That’s a fact. Need proof? Merchandise. When you buy a Brady, Rogers, Luck, mahomes, fournette.....whatever team merchandise? It’s split up between ALL 31 teams! Why 31? Because Dallas keeps 100% of all their proceeds in merchandise. But don’t be fooled that they’re the lone team. They share proceeds with all other 31 teams outside the merchandise. There’s a reason why NFL owners could give 2 shits whether or not their team EVER wins a SB. Why? Because they STILL make money. Browns owner used to be one of the most lucrative owners. Gambling and the NFL go back as far as its inception. Remember, all those original owner? They were bookies. Go figure! But yea, no fixing at all. Nothings scripted. It’s not entertainment. It’s pure as virgin women. Gtfoh!
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@blowoutgm
Secret? Lol you dumbass. Nfl states to the Supreme Court that it wouldn’t matter if it was fixed people would still watch it. Secondly. They stated they are an entertainment. Refs just in on it? Try the entire league. You’re completely delusional to think otherwise. IF there was no tampering with games, wouldn’t every team be considered it’s on entity? Separated from other teams? But they’re NOT! They’re all one in the same. That’s a fact. Need proof? Merchandise. When you buy a Brady, Rogers, Luck, mahomes, fournette.....whatever team merchandise? It’s split up between ALL 31 teams! Why 31? Because Dallas keeps 100% of all their proceeds in merchandise. But don’t be fooled that they’re the lone team. They share proceeds with all other 31 teams outside the merchandise. There’s a reason why NFL owners could give 2 shits whether or not their team EVER wins a SB. Why? Because they STILL make money. Browns owner used to be one of the most lucrative owners. Gambling and the NFL go back as far as its inception. Remember, all those original owner? They were bookies. Go figure! But yea, no fixing at all. Nothings scripted. It’s not entertainment. It’s pure as virgin women. Gtfoh!
@wizard1183, I'm with you. For anyone who thinks that sports cannot be manipulated, or better yet, often manipulated, has not seen the light yet.
@blowoutgm, before calling someone an idiot, I'd implore you to Google Tim Donaghy and the NBA scandal. Games can ABSOLUTELY BE SCRIPTED. It was documented that it occurred in the NBA 2002 Western Conference Finals in a heavily wagered series featuring stars like Shaq and Kobe in the biggest stage. The refs admitted to ensuring that series got sent to 7 games. I was lucky enough to have the Lakers in that series for 2G which was a significant amount for me at that time. Match fixing and point shaving has been verified across other sports like tennis, college basketball, etc. What makes you think it cannot occur in football let alone a high profile game like the super bowl where millions get wagered? Whether a player does it, a referee does it, a coach does it or a combination of many do it, a dirty game is a dirty game. Is every single sporting event dirty, of course not, but can high stakes games have some predetermined outcome? ABSOLUTELY. I've made it a point to make bigger wagers on low profile games where I feel less vulnerable to a scripted outcome (something like a Jaguars vs. Dolphins type shit). The only reason I bet knowing games can be scripted is because I have found some edges over doing this for 20 years.
@KK1, you are wasting your valuable time on this forum if picking winners comes easily to you. If it does, let alone a game like the super bowl, you may be in an elite sports bettor. More power to you and I hope you apply your wisdom to sports betting than waste your energy name calling people you think are peasants.
I can guarantee anyone who bets long enough will eventually be on the right side and the wrong side of a game at some point in their journey where it will be obvious that the players are not deciding the game. When that occurs, a feeling of dissatisfaction isn't unusual. I won a shade over 1100 on this game, but the usual satisfaction I have from picking a solid winner is not there because I watched a biased game. I could easily have lost on this game if the bias favored KC. The refs destroyed the chances KC had of establishing momentum in this game, and even if the Bucs win the battle of the trenches on the D-line, the game might have been close enough to be in striking distance for KC to implore a mix of run and pass and not entirely abandon their run game due to a large deficit. Sitting in a super bowl party in a small gathering with a room full of your loved ones and watching your buddy lose money on a team that the referees are fucking in the ass is the main reason I have a bad taste in my mouth.
The NFL, NBA, NCAAF, and sports in general have no credibility to me, but are ripe with profit opportunities.
Chalks, Dogs, Overs, Unders, Props....I love 'em all
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@wizard1183, I'm with you. For anyone who thinks that sports cannot be manipulated, or better yet, often manipulated, has not seen the light yet.
@blowoutgm, before calling someone an idiot, I'd implore you to Google Tim Donaghy and the NBA scandal. Games can ABSOLUTELY BE SCRIPTED. It was documented that it occurred in the NBA 2002 Western Conference Finals in a heavily wagered series featuring stars like Shaq and Kobe in the biggest stage. The refs admitted to ensuring that series got sent to 7 games. I was lucky enough to have the Lakers in that series for 2G which was a significant amount for me at that time. Match fixing and point shaving has been verified across other sports like tennis, college basketball, etc. What makes you think it cannot occur in football let alone a high profile game like the super bowl where millions get wagered? Whether a player does it, a referee does it, a coach does it or a combination of many do it, a dirty game is a dirty game. Is every single sporting event dirty, of course not, but can high stakes games have some predetermined outcome? ABSOLUTELY. I've made it a point to make bigger wagers on low profile games where I feel less vulnerable to a scripted outcome (something like a Jaguars vs. Dolphins type shit). The only reason I bet knowing games can be scripted is because I have found some edges over doing this for 20 years.
@KK1, you are wasting your valuable time on this forum if picking winners comes easily to you. If it does, let alone a game like the super bowl, you may be in an elite sports bettor. More power to you and I hope you apply your wisdom to sports betting than waste your energy name calling people you think are peasants.
I can guarantee anyone who bets long enough will eventually be on the right side and the wrong side of a game at some point in their journey where it will be obvious that the players are not deciding the game. When that occurs, a feeling of dissatisfaction isn't unusual. I won a shade over 1100 on this game, but the usual satisfaction I have from picking a solid winner is not there because I watched a biased game. I could easily have lost on this game if the bias favored KC. The refs destroyed the chances KC had of establishing momentum in this game, and even if the Bucs win the battle of the trenches on the D-line, the game might have been close enough to be in striking distance for KC to implore a mix of run and pass and not entirely abandon their run game due to a large deficit. Sitting in a super bowl party in a small gathering with a room full of your loved ones and watching your buddy lose money on a team that the referees are fucking in the ass is the main reason I have a bad taste in my mouth.
The NFL, NBA, NCAAF, and sports in general have no credibility to me, but are ripe with profit opportunities.
The Chiefs knew after the first few calls that Cheffers and crew were not going to let them win tonight. Simple as that. So KC players all hung their heads and tried the best they could to get through a game they knew they couldn’t win. And they knew exactly why. Nobody wants to see Fat Andy, the father of a drunk driving, child murdering thug, receive another SB trophy. They all knew it and accepted it. Just think, when was the last time you saw a KC team (especially Mahomes) not pumping each other up on the sidelines or Andy not talking to his QB? I’ll tell you when. Never. That’s when.
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The Chiefs knew after the first few calls that Cheffers and crew were not going to let them win tonight. Simple as that. So KC players all hung their heads and tried the best they could to get through a game they knew they couldn’t win. And they knew exactly why. Nobody wants to see Fat Andy, the father of a drunk driving, child murdering thug, receive another SB trophy. They all knew it and accepted it. Just think, when was the last time you saw a KC team (especially Mahomes) not pumping each other up on the sidelines or Andy not talking to his QB? I’ll tell you when. Never. That’s when.
People are saying those 2 penalites wouldnt have changed anything, they are wrong. They completely changed the tone and KC could've been down by 6-7 at half instead of 15
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People are saying those 2 penalites wouldnt have changed anything, they are wrong. They completely changed the tone and KC could've been down by 6-7 at half instead of 15
I lost 5 k on KC but i am happy knowing they tried hard. I feel great about it ! KC might of won if they could of ever got inside the five yard line. What really hurt was Andys drunk boy. One boy killed himself and the other one has substance abuse problems also.
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I lost 5 k on KC but i am happy knowing they tried hard. I feel great about it ! KC might of won if they could of ever got inside the five yard line. What really hurt was Andys drunk boy. One boy killed himself and the other one has substance abuse problems also.
Sadly BB you are correct.. Look for Andy Reid to step down this week and EB to take OVER..
I was very lucky to hit many props to ease my KC pain..but as OP states that Yes, it was very odd to see all KC flags and NONE on TB in 1st half...So very sad that a league predetermines what their desired outcome will be..
The KC body language argument was on Full display during that game..Very Sad and totally uncharacteristic of a Mahomes led squad.. NEVER made into end zone..WTF..do people realize the odds on KC not scoring any TD???
Odds on Mahomes not having any TDs was like +350 at least...This was one Very Very ODD game and boring to watch too... At least the commercials were the highlights..
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Sadly BB you are correct.. Look for Andy Reid to step down this week and EB to take OVER..
I was very lucky to hit many props to ease my KC pain..but as OP states that Yes, it was very odd to see all KC flags and NONE on TB in 1st half...So very sad that a league predetermines what their desired outcome will be..
The KC body language argument was on Full display during that game..Very Sad and totally uncharacteristic of a Mahomes led squad.. NEVER made into end zone..WTF..do people realize the odds on KC not scoring any TD???
Odds on Mahomes not having any TDs was like +350 at least...This was one Very Very ODD game and boring to watch too... At least the commercials were the highlights..
@begginerboy Sadly BB you are correct.. Look for Andy Reid to step down this week and EB to take OVER.. I was very lucky to hit many props to ease my KC pain..but as OP states that Yes, it was very odd to see all KC flags and NONE on TB in 1st half...So very sad that a league predetermines what their desired outcome will be.. The KC body language argument was on Full display during that game..Very Sad and totally uncharacteristic of a Mahomes led squad.. NEVER made into end zone..WTF..do people realize the odds on KC not scoring any TD??? Odds on Mahomes not having any TDs was like +350 at least...This was one Very Very ODD game and boring to watch too... At least the commercials were the highlights..
The flags against KC during the first half were historical. Coincidence you say?
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Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:
@begginerboy Sadly BB you are correct.. Look for Andy Reid to step down this week and EB to take OVER.. I was very lucky to hit many props to ease my KC pain..but as OP states that Yes, it was very odd to see all KC flags and NONE on TB in 1st half...So very sad that a league predetermines what their desired outcome will be.. The KC body language argument was on Full display during that game..Very Sad and totally uncharacteristic of a Mahomes led squad.. NEVER made into end zone..WTF..do people realize the odds on KC not scoring any TD??? Odds on Mahomes not having any TDs was like +350 at least...This was one Very Very ODD game and boring to watch too... At least the commercials were the highlights..
But what's very sad is that KC players "knew" what they were up against..like you point out there was Absolutely no way Goodwill was gonna hand Reid the Lombardi in light of what happened this week..
Chiefs are going to have Major consequences if they allowed coached/and or players drinking in their facility..What kind of message does that send..WTF.. especially when NFL wants to keep up their 'holier than ?!*?!" image.up????
THIS is Andy Reid's fault..he will be gone before we know it
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But what's very sad is that KC players "knew" what they were up against..like you point out there was Absolutely no way Goodwill was gonna hand Reid the Lombardi in light of what happened this week..
Chiefs are going to have Major consequences if they allowed coached/and or players drinking in their facility..What kind of message does that send..WTF.. especially when NFL wants to keep up their 'holier than ?!*?!" image.up????
THIS is Andy Reid's fault..he will be gone before we know it
I cap the game with numbers and had tb winning by su by 5 line was +3,5 that's 8,5 even with out all the stuff you guys are saying I still think tb wins or at least covers tb was the right bet
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I cap the game with numbers and had tb winning by su by 5 line was +3,5 that's 8,5 even with out all the stuff you guys are saying I still think tb wins or at least covers tb was the right bet
I cap the game with numbers and had tb winning by su by 5 line was +3,5 that's 8,5 even with out all the stuff you guys are saying I still think tb wins or at least covers tb was the right bet
I don’t disagree that Tampa could have won without the first half officiating and Andy’s drunk son casting a shadow over the team, but you gotta admit that at the very least it would have been a real game.
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Quote Originally Posted by Aronrogers:
I cap the game with numbers and had tb winning by su by 5 line was +3,5 that's 8,5 even with out all the stuff you guys are saying I still think tb wins or at least covers tb was the right bet
I don’t disagree that Tampa could have won without the first half officiating and Andy’s drunk son casting a shadow over the team, but you gotta admit that at the very least it would have been a real game.
Just try to dissect this equivocating comment by Reid:
“The distraction wasn’t a distraction as far as the game plan goes. That was already in and how we were going to work with it and go forward. I would tell you, it’s a loaded question, Diana. From a human standpoint, it’s a tough one. From a football standpoint, two separate things. From a football standpoint, that wasn’t, I don’t think that was the problem.”
He simultaneously says it was not a distraction (from a football standpoint) because the game plan was in place before the accident, and, at the same time, that it had an impact on the team from a “human” standpoint. In his heart he knows the two (football standpoint and human psychology standpoint) can’t be separated (that’s why he concedes that it’s a “loaded question”) and yet he tries to do just that with his answer: i.e., separate the human tragedy, and its effects not just on his players and his coaches, but also others involved in the game, the NFL higher ups, the officials, and everyone else sickened by his son’s actions. and the game of football. It’s as if in Andy’s world the game can be compartmentalized in that way: football on one side, humans and their feelings on the other. He is either lying to us or to himself. Tells you just what kind of man he is, and why he may have had a hard time juggling his life as a football coach and as a father to his sons.
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Just try to dissect this equivocating comment by Reid:
“The distraction wasn’t a distraction as far as the game plan goes. That was already in and how we were going to work with it and go forward. I would tell you, it’s a loaded question, Diana. From a human standpoint, it’s a tough one. From a football standpoint, two separate things. From a football standpoint, that wasn’t, I don’t think that was the problem.”
He simultaneously says it was not a distraction (from a football standpoint) because the game plan was in place before the accident, and, at the same time, that it had an impact on the team from a “human” standpoint. In his heart he knows the two (football standpoint and human psychology standpoint) can’t be separated (that’s why he concedes that it’s a “loaded question”) and yet he tries to do just that with his answer: i.e., separate the human tragedy, and its effects not just on his players and his coaches, but also others involved in the game, the NFL higher ups, the officials, and everyone else sickened by his son’s actions. and the game of football. It’s as if in Andy’s world the game can be compartmentalized in that way: football on one side, humans and their feelings on the other. He is either lying to us or to himself. Tells you just what kind of man he is, and why he may have had a hard time juggling his life as a football coach and as a father to his sons.
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