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    Empty nets should be banned

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    Klaista2k
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 3:58 PM ET #26

    would get absolutely killed*

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    would get absolutely killed*

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:03 PM ET #27

    @Klaista2k

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaista2k:

    @Raiders22  Not a chance. The books let you live bet empty net situations. If it was 95% they would kill absolutely killed.


    It was sarcasm.  I am simply saying it seems like it always goes against me and the +/- PL also because of this.  
    I was kidding because I know it evens out — but you just remember the ones that beat you. 
    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaista2k:

    @Raiders22  Not a chance. The books let you live bet empty net situations. If it was 95% they would kill absolutely killed.


    It was sarcasm.  I am simply saying it seems like it always goes against me and the +/- PL also because of this.  
    I was kidding because I know it evens out — but you just remember the ones that beat you. 
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:05 PM ET #28

    @Raiders22

     I know what you mean. Ha

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    @Raiders22

     I know what you mean. Ha

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:18 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Every single game really but tonight was the flames. I had under 6.5 and knew it was done when flames made it 4-2

    just unlucky. I’ve had unders hit when it’s 4-1 after 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Every single game really but tonight was the flames. I had under 6.5 and knew it was done when flames made it 4-2

    just unlucky. I’ve had unders hit when it’s 4-1 after 1

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:21 PM ET #30

    Empty net goals scored by the winning team will not count towards the actual score instead they would be awarded an empty net point. The score will remain the same however if the losing team gives up an empty net goal their next goal scored will not count towards the actual score. Instead it would remove the empty net point from the opposing team allowing their next goal to count as normal. All stats would still be accounted for as normal goals, assists points etc so players wouldn’t lose any incentive to score empty net goals and it wouldn’t make a difference to players. 

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    Empty net goals scored by the winning team will not count towards the actual score instead they would be awarded an empty net point. The score will remain the same however if the losing team gives up an empty net goal their next goal scored will not count towards the actual score. Instead it would remove the empty net point from the opposing team allowing their next goal to count as normal. All stats would still be accounted for as normal goals, assists points etc so players wouldn’t lose any incentive to score empty net goals and it wouldn’t make a difference to players. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:25 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaista2k:

    @smellybunty  Exactly. There's almost no point to take a team +1.5 bcuz of the empty net at the end.

    This.  Better taking off the team in regulation +.5 or outright.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaista2k:

    @smellybunty  Exactly. There's almost no point to take a team +1.5 bcuz of the empty net at the end.

    This.  Better taking off the team in regulation +.5 or outright.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:26 PM ET #32

    It should never be allowed doen by 2 goals. Only down by 1 

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    It should never be allowed doen by 2 goals. Only down by 1 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:45 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean64:

    Empty net goals scored by the winning team will not count towards the actual score instead they would be awarded an empty net point. The score will remain the same however if the losing team gives up an empty net goal their next goal scored will not count towards the actual score. Instead it would remove the empty net point from the opposing team allowing their next goal to count as normal. All stats would still be accounted for as normal goals, assists points etc so players wouldn’t lose any incentive to score empty net goals and it wouldn’t make a difference to players.
    are you listening to yourself talk?

     

    this whole thread is foolish. It’s apart of the game 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean64:

    Empty net goals scored by the winning team will not count towards the actual score instead they would be awarded an empty net point. The score will remain the same however if the losing team gives up an empty net goal their next goal scored will not count towards the actual score. Instead it would remove the empty net point from the opposing team allowing their next goal to count as normal. All stats would still be accounted for as normal goals, assists points etc so players wouldn’t lose any incentive to score empty net goals and it wouldn’t make a difference to players.
    are you listening to yourself talk?

     

    this whole thread is foolish. It’s apart of the game 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:46 PM ET #34

    also, with that being said. Never take the +1.5.

     

    i can’t even remember the last time i took an under in NHL and I bet everything 

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    also, with that being said. Never take the +1.5.

     

    i can’t even remember the last time i took an under in NHL and I bet everything 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 5:48 PM ET #35

    @Raiders22

     I captured what you was saying.:)bigsmile

    peace_5peaceclover

    Learn, be content and stay disciplined.
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    @Raiders22

     I captured what you was saying.:)bigsmile

    peace_5peaceclover

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 5:58 PM ET #36

    This is really a crazy post. You know that it is allowed so you need to adjust your bets accordingly. I used to play a lot of unders but only do it in selective situations now because of the risk of goalie pulls with 2 goal leads. These things should be expected and happen readily now.

    Would you be OK with them putting the puck board in when they pull the goalie to make it harder   an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    This is really a crazy post. You know that it is allowed so you need to adjust your bets accordingly. I used to play a lot of unders but only do it in selective situations now because of the risk of goalie pulls with 2 goal leads. These things should be expected and happen readily now.

    Would you be OK with them putting the puck board in when they pull the goalie to make it harder   an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 12:37 AM ET #37

    I just got fucked up an empty net in the Vegas game.

    I'm gonna agree with the OP it's time to ban these stupid things. 

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    I just got fucked up an empty net in the Vegas game.

    I'm gonna agree with the OP it's time to ban these stupid things. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 9:06 AM ET #38

    Lmao rangera/Jets got fucked last night as well

     

    Jets empty netter with 10 seconds left to pay out the over 5.5

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    Lmao rangera/Jets got fucked last night as well

     

    Jets empty netter with 10 seconds left to pay out the over 5.5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 9:07 AM ET #39

    Nhl totals are fucky.

     

    You are at the mercy of empty net majority of time

     

    Also most games end on 4-7 goals. So you basically are betting into 4 potential outcomes with some less common outliers

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    Nhl totals are fucky.

     

    You are at the mercy of empty net majority of time

     

    Also most games end on 4-7 goals. So you basically are betting into 4 potential outcomes with some less common outliers

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 10:53 AM ET #40

    I don’t know if this softness is just the younger generation but this whole post is utter stupidity. Grow a pair. It’s gambling. 

    “should be able to pull up 1 not up 2” 

    somedays it feels more enjoyable to meet my creator than it does to meet people. 

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    I don’t know if this softness is just the younger generation but this whole post is utter stupidity. Grow a pair. It’s gambling. 

    “should be able to pull up 1 not up 2” 

    somedays it feels more enjoyable to meet my creator than it does to meet people. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 10:55 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    Nhl totals are fucky.   You are at the mercy of empty net majority of time   Also most games end on 4-7 goals. So you basically are betting into 4 potential outcomes with some less common outliers

     

    football spread and totals not the same? Baseball totals? It would 5-4/3-2/4-3 all very common outcomes. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    Nhl totals are fucky.   You are at the mercy of empty net majority of time   Also most games end on 4-7 goals. So you basically are betting into 4 potential outcomes with some less common outliers

     

    football spread and totals not the same? Baseball totals? It would 5-4/3-2/4-3 all very common outcomes. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 11:26 AM ET #42

    @vaas187

     Yes football (soccer) you are basically betting into a 0-7 range although 7 is even high most games probably 0-5 goals. So almost a 15% chance the game ends with a total of one of: 0 1 2 3 4 or 5 goals scored with the remainder on 6+ goals (this is just rough numbers) 

    Altho I'm no soccer expert so maybe I underestimating some higher scoring leagues if they out there 

     

    But in general an nhl game has 4-7 goals..

    1-0 game some what rare...usually handful of games a season 

    2 somewhat common ..2-0 only possible score

    3 somewhat common 3-0 or 1-1 OT game

    8,9,10,11 a bit more common with higher scoring nowadays

    And then 12+ getting rare again

     

    So in nhl u basically betting into those 12 numbers at all times.  

     

    baseball scores can be a little more wild

     

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     Yes football (soccer) you are basically betting into a 0-7 range although 7 is even high most games probably 0-5 goals. So almost a 15% chance the game ends with a total of one of: 0 1 2 3 4 or 5 goals scored with the remainder on 6+ goals (this is just rough numbers) 

    Altho I'm no soccer expert so maybe I underestimating some higher scoring leagues if they out there 

     

    But in general an nhl game has 4-7 goals..

    1-0 game some what rare...usually handful of games a season 

    2 somewhat common ..2-0 only possible score

    3 somewhat common 3-0 or 1-1 OT game

    8,9,10,11 a bit more common with higher scoring nowadays

    And then 12+ getting rare again

     

    So in nhl u basically betting into those 12 numbers at all times.  

     

    baseball scores can be a little more wild

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 11:34 AM ET #43

    Small breakdown of games so far this year:

    GP: 1097

    HW% 53.3%

    % of games going to SO & OT = 21% (OT 14.7% - SO 6.3%)

    Avg G/g 6.22

    Avg GF Home 3.21

    Avg GF Away 3.01

     Totals:

    5 - 21.4%

    7 - 21.3%

    6 - 11.4%

    9 - 10.3%

    3 - 10.1%

    4 - 7.7%

    Take from it what you will.

    Also I don't understand the complaints about empty net goals ... you know it's part of the game and must be taken into account when placing your wager so deal with it accordingly. The books do !

    Good Luck Everyone peace

    * Disclaimer: These are 'unofficial' stats 

     

     

     

     

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    Small breakdown of games so far this year:

    GP: 1097

    HW% 53.3%

    % of games going to SO & OT = 21% (OT 14.7% - SO 6.3%)

    Avg G/g 6.22

    Avg GF Home 3.21

    Avg GF Away 3.01

     Totals:

    5 - 21.4%

    7 - 21.3%

    6 - 11.4%

    9 - 10.3%

    3 - 10.1%

    4 - 7.7%

    Take from it what you will.

    Also I don't understand the complaints about empty net goals ... you know it's part of the game and must be taken into account when placing your wager so deal with it accordingly. The books do !

    Good Luck Everyone peace

    * Disclaimer: These are 'unofficial' stats 

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 1:00 PM ET #44

    How do you not know to adjust based on this? Take the puck line 

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    How do you not know to adjust based on this? Take the puck line 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 2:17 PM ET #45

    @rustie

     Do you have the numbers for games landing on 2 and 8?

     

    That is great info. What website that from?

    Thanks

     

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    @rustie

     Do you have the numbers for games landing on 2 and 8?

     

    That is great info. What website that from?

    Thanks

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 2:23 PM ET #46

    So this year 61.8% of games to date have ended on 4,5, 6 or 7

     

    If rustie has numbers on 1, 2 and 8 we get a slightly bigger picture 

     

    Books are sharpening up. Seems like a lot less fair priced 6.0s to me this year. Don't wanna give you that push without paying an insane amount of juice 

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    So this year 61.8% of games to date have ended on 4,5, 6 or 7

     

    If rustie has numbers on 1, 2 and 8 we get a slightly bigger picture 

     

    Books are sharpening up. Seems like a lot less fair priced 6.0s to me this year. Don't wanna give you that push without paying an insane amount of juice 

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2024 - 3:48 PM ET #47

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     Hey, Dubz I will get you the numbers, but it will be later this afternoon as I’m not at my computer right now peace_5

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     Hey, Dubz I will get you the numbers, but it will be later this afternoon as I’m not at my computer right now peace_5

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