So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
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So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
Stamkos took less money knowing the club needed cap space for Johnson, Kucherov, Palat, Vas and Hedman. Contrary to erroneous reports, Stamkos wanted to stay in Tampa knowing this was probably his best shot at the cup.
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Stamkos took less money knowing the club needed cap space for Johnson, Kucherov, Palat, Vas and Hedman. Contrary to erroneous reports, Stamkos wanted to stay in Tampa knowing this was probably his best shot at the cup.
So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
$20 Million?
No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year)
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
$20 Million?
No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year)
dcp....who choses less money?? What for? You wouldn't. Ya Crosby's a special breed alright lol. Hes a good lapdog
I would choose less money if it meant a better team around me and more winning. Personally amazed more athletes aren't the same. Once you're a multi-millionaire, who cares about whether its 25 million in your account or 28 million? Its all money you'll never spend.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
dcp....who choses less money?? What for? You wouldn't. Ya Crosby's a special breed alright lol. Hes a good lapdog
I would choose less money if it meant a better team around me and more winning. Personally amazed more athletes aren't the same. Once you're a multi-millionaire, who cares about whether its 25 million in your account or 28 million? Its all money you'll never spend.
So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
They can't offer him 20 million a year. They can only offer 20% of the teams salary cap as a max. It's also completely innaccurate number you're using to back your own argument. The Leafs never made any actual offer b/c they didn't remotely have the cap space at the time, but were rumored to have been prepared to make an offer of 7 years for 73.5 million which would have paid Stamkos 10.5 per year. Other rumors at th time siggest the number was actually much lower, but regardless they never made any real offer, anyway.
He instead took a 8-year deal for 68 million.
Did he leave money on the table if there was indeed a bigger offer (although not likely)? Sure. Is it money that remotely matters? No. Not really. And he got to stay in a place he was comfortable with, with teammates he was familiar with and on a team he was and is the captain of and knew would compete going forward.
No conspiracy here. If I'm him, I take the same offer and I'm as happy as can be.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
So lets you and I do some math. The Leafs offered Stamkos $20 million a yr. Steven/gary refused and signed with Tampa for $8million. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Sid took less so they can sign Gino? Really? And an educated guy like you believes that? Uhhhm okay. Lets wrap this puppy up. Next thing someones gonna tell me is that the Brassard deal was on the up and up or that Sid's lottery wasn't rigged or that Kessel was given away because he was weird. The Stanley Cup MVP for the last couple years was too weird. Just didn't fit. Wasn't one of them. Just like Subban didn't fit in Montreal but is gonna lift the Cup for Nashville. Just like Claude Julien is a Stanley Cup winning coach and now he cant find his socks. Just like Chiarelli who put together a Cup team and now he cant find matching socks. Whatever man. Where theres smoke theres fire. gary sets a lot of fires. To specific teams. The ones that don't interest him.
They can't offer him 20 million a year. They can only offer 20% of the teams salary cap as a max. It's also completely innaccurate number you're using to back your own argument. The Leafs never made any actual offer b/c they didn't remotely have the cap space at the time, but were rumored to have been prepared to make an offer of 7 years for 73.5 million which would have paid Stamkos 10.5 per year. Other rumors at th time siggest the number was actually much lower, but regardless they never made any real offer, anyway.
He instead took a 8-year deal for 68 million.
Did he leave money on the table if there was indeed a bigger offer (although not likely)? Sure. Is it money that remotely matters? No. Not really. And he got to stay in a place he was comfortable with, with teammates he was familiar with and on a team he was and is the captain of and knew would compete going forward.
No conspiracy here. If I'm him, I take the same offer and I'm as happy as can be.
Everything you've said is completely anecdotal and without any hard evidence. For every instance you give I could give you another that would suggest the opposite. There have been countless insignificant players with multiple Cups simply from finding themselves on the right team at the right time, as well as all-star/dominant calibre players that have never won simply because they weren't.
Glen Sather, supposed "architect" of the great 80's Oilers also couldn't find matching socks when he went to New York, even before the first lockout when he had a virtually unlimited payroll. The margins are so thin man...yes there's some skill/knowledge/experience involved, but most of these managers are just guessing. Their skill/knowledge/experience just means that they can usually guess better than others. There is by no means some magic foolproof formula that they have figure out 100% of the time.
Let's do more of your math...how do you explain Gary allowing 4 1st overall picks in 6 years going to the Oilers, including the one that is the next generational "face of the league"? And then Gary also said, "ok I'm done punishing the Leafs with JFJ and Ron Wilson and Vesa Toskala in net, I'll let them hire Shanahan and Lou, and also gift them a 1st overall pick". A rare 1st overall pick that is American, and on top of that from Arizona, who might have been the one guy who could actually put butts in the seats in Arizona and save that franchise. Yeah let's just give that guy to the Leafs because I've punished them long enough.
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Everything you've said is completely anecdotal and without any hard evidence. For every instance you give I could give you another that would suggest the opposite. There have been countless insignificant players with multiple Cups simply from finding themselves on the right team at the right time, as well as all-star/dominant calibre players that have never won simply because they weren't.
Glen Sather, supposed "architect" of the great 80's Oilers also couldn't find matching socks when he went to New York, even before the first lockout when he had a virtually unlimited payroll. The margins are so thin man...yes there's some skill/knowledge/experience involved, but most of these managers are just guessing. Their skill/knowledge/experience just means that they can usually guess better than others. There is by no means some magic foolproof formula that they have figure out 100% of the time.
Let's do more of your math...how do you explain Gary allowing 4 1st overall picks in 6 years going to the Oilers, including the one that is the next generational "face of the league"? And then Gary also said, "ok I'm done punishing the Leafs with JFJ and Ron Wilson and Vesa Toskala in net, I'll let them hire Shanahan and Lou, and also gift them a 1st overall pick". A rare 1st overall pick that is American, and on top of that from Arizona, who might have been the one guy who could actually put butts in the seats in Arizona and save that franchise. Yeah let's just give that guy to the Leafs because I've punished them long enough.
Why do you guys continue to debate the issue with this kid?
He already told you in Post #6 that he knows EVERYTHING.
You should all respect that.....
LogCottage I get frustrated with you because you dismiss everything I say. I don't know everything as my hockey selections are marginal. But ive done my homework on this league. A kid?? I enjoyed watching Gary Unger play lol. You don't have to accept what im saying. No one does. In Formula 1, the teams with the money win. In just about every sport I can think of, the champion is usually the team or player with the money. Leafs, Rangers and Habs have the most money and worth, yet can win under any circumstance. The economics of the nhl doesn't work like other leagues. Its different and im not going to explain. You love gary and gary loves you. Continue to root and support this league that's done absolutely nothing for its fans. Ive been smelling gary's sh!t since 1992, which btw, was the last time a Canadian team won. But, that's just circumstance of course. Just like EVERYTHING I outline. All circumstances. 26 years of losing for the teams with the money makes sense to me. 1 team in Toronto with 10 million RABID fans in the GTA and surrounding area and 3 teams in NY and LA. All normal.
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:
Why do you guys continue to debate the issue with this kid?
He already told you in Post #6 that he knows EVERYTHING.
You should all respect that.....
LogCottage I get frustrated with you because you dismiss everything I say. I don't know everything as my hockey selections are marginal. But ive done my homework on this league. A kid?? I enjoyed watching Gary Unger play lol. You don't have to accept what im saying. No one does. In Formula 1, the teams with the money win. In just about every sport I can think of, the champion is usually the team or player with the money. Leafs, Rangers and Habs have the most money and worth, yet can win under any circumstance. The economics of the nhl doesn't work like other leagues. Its different and im not going to explain. You love gary and gary loves you. Continue to root and support this league that's done absolutely nothing for its fans. Ive been smelling gary's sh!t since 1992, which btw, was the last time a Canadian team won. But, that's just circumstance of course. Just like EVERYTHING I outline. All circumstances. 26 years of losing for the teams with the money makes sense to me. 1 team in Toronto with 10 million RABID fans in the GTA and surrounding area and 3 teams in NY and LA. All normal.
No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year)
Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
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Quote Originally Posted by BrewRays:
$20 Million?
No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year)
Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
QUOTE Originally Posted by LogCottage: Why do you guys continue to debate the issue with this kid?He already told you in Post #6 that he knows EVERYTHING.You should all respect that..... LogCottage I get frustrated with you because you dismiss everything I say. I don't know everything as my hockey selections are marginal. But ive done my homework on this league. A kid?? I enjoyed watching Gary Unger play lol. You don't have to accept what im saying. No one does. In Formula 1, the teams with the money win. In just about every sport I can think of, the champion is usually the team or player with the money. Leafs, Rangers and Habs have the most money and worth, yet can win under any circumstance. The economics of the nhl doesn't work like other leagues. Its different and im not going to explain. You love gary and gary loves you. Continue to root and support this league that's done absolutely nothing for its fans. Ive been smelling gary's sh!t since 1992, which btw, was the last time a Canadian team won. But, that's just circumstance of course. Just like EVERYTHING I outline. All circumstances. 26 years of losing for the teams with the money makes sense to me. 1 team in Toronto with 10 million RABID fans in the GTA and surrounding area and 3 teams in NY and LA. All normal.
All 3 NY teams have 1 combined Cup in in the last 35 years.
The few Canadian teams in this league, TOR, CGY, VAN, MON, EDM, five in total haven't won or lost based on locale. Hate to break the truth to you.
I'd also hardly consider Buffalo a NY team. Its basically Canada South.
You're a pretty crazy old dude with a young hot chick for an avatar, huh?
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
QUOTE Originally Posted by LogCottage: Why do you guys continue to debate the issue with this kid?He already told you in Post #6 that he knows EVERYTHING.You should all respect that..... LogCottage I get frustrated with you because you dismiss everything I say. I don't know everything as my hockey selections are marginal. But ive done my homework on this league. A kid?? I enjoyed watching Gary Unger play lol. You don't have to accept what im saying. No one does. In Formula 1, the teams with the money win. In just about every sport I can think of, the champion is usually the team or player with the money. Leafs, Rangers and Habs have the most money and worth, yet can win under any circumstance. The economics of the nhl doesn't work like other leagues. Its different and im not going to explain. You love gary and gary loves you. Continue to root and support this league that's done absolutely nothing for its fans. Ive been smelling gary's sh!t since 1992, which btw, was the last time a Canadian team won. But, that's just circumstance of course. Just like EVERYTHING I outline. All circumstances. 26 years of losing for the teams with the money makes sense to me. 1 team in Toronto with 10 million RABID fans in the GTA and surrounding area and 3 teams in NY and LA. All normal.
All 3 NY teams have 1 combined Cup in in the last 35 years.
The few Canadian teams in this league, TOR, CGY, VAN, MON, EDM, five in total haven't won or lost based on locale. Hate to break the truth to you.
I'd also hardly consider Buffalo a NY team. Its basically Canada South.
You're a pretty crazy old dude with a young hot chick for an avatar, huh?
I don’t give a damn about Gary either way. Why do you continue to bet a sport you think is rigged in a league that you despise? Your time could be better spent walking dogs at an animal shelter or taking up stamp collecting...
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I don’t give a damn about Gary either way. Why do you continue to bet a sport you think is rigged in a league that you despise? Your time could be better spent walking dogs at an animal shelter or taking up stamp collecting...
QUOTE Originally Posted by BrewRays: $20 Million?No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year) Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
It was NOT 20Mil and could not be 20mil. No team could offer that much under the structure of the salary cap.
The Leafs were 3-4 million under the salaray cap at that time as well.
Where was, living in your fantasy world, 20 million a year coming from??
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
QUOTE Originally Posted by BrewRays: $20 Million?No one knows the exact number but the estimate was a $73.5 million 10 year deal. ($10.5MM a year) Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
It was NOT 20Mil and could not be 20mil. No team could offer that much under the structure of the salary cap.
The Leafs were 3-4 million under the salaray cap at that time as well.
Where was, living in your fantasy world, 20 million a year coming from??
Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
Roger that. Thanks for the info. Look forward to more league insight.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dangerbay:
Everyone knows the exact number. $20,000,000 bananas and a job for life representing the Leafs. And are the Leafs that far apart from the Lightning? Greatness? Legacy?? What greatness or legacy?? Stamkos walks the streets and his own mom doesn't recognize the coward. L O L
Roger that. Thanks for the info. Look forward to more league insight.
Roger that. Thanks for the info. Look forward to more league insight.
I heard BoB Mcowan (who couldn't believe himself that Stamkos turned it down) salary + endorsements + sponsorship tallied up to 20milliom. He knows everybody in the Leaf org and wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrewRays:
Roger that. Thanks for the info. Look forward to more league insight.
I heard BoB Mcowan (who couldn't believe himself that Stamkos turned it down) salary + endorsements + sponsorship tallied up to 20milliom. He knows everybody in the Leaf org and wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.
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