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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 3:13 PM ET #201

    Oh and I forgot to mention... Brian Burke is a Genius

     

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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 3:26 PM ET #202

    Kessel scoring 50 not likely and i would take Hall or Seguin over Kessel any day Hall aint going to be a bust did you not watch him in the World Jrs. He is alot better than the Leaf pick Kadri i have to say! MLBguru again i agree 6.5 for Phaneuf is to much money and White is less money and will be effective Calgary needed a right handed dee man anyways. Again Phaneuf not making team Canada tells me he wasn't picked because one performance and two his off ice issues. The Leafs fans need to realize look at the Hawks build through the draft look at the line-up they have Toews, Kane, Bolland, Versteeg, Duncan, Seabrooke, Barker! Thats 7 players better than every Leaf Burke has drafted. Once you get a core of players through the draft you add pieces like Kessel and Phaneuf. Burke gave Boston the first pick potential over all why for Kessel. No need to make that deal Boston wasn't paying Kessel that huge salary, they let te Leafs do it and got 2 first rounders in the process knowing full well they would get a lottery pick this year.

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    Kessel scoring 50 not likely and i would take Hall or Seguin over Kessel any day Hall aint going to be a bust did you not watch him in the World Jrs. He is alot better than the Leaf pick Kadri i have to say! MLBguru again i agree 6.5 for Phaneuf is to much money and White is less money and will be effective Calgary needed a right handed dee man anyways. Again Phaneuf not making team Canada tells me he wasn't picked because one performance and two his off ice issues. The Leafs fans need to realize look at the Hawks build through the draft look at the line-up they have Toews, Kane, Bolland, Versteeg, Duncan, Seabrooke, Barker! Thats 7 players better than every Leaf Burke has drafted. Once you get a core of players through the draft you add pieces like Kessel and Phaneuf. Burke gave Boston the first pick potential over all why for Kessel. No need to make that deal Boston wasn't paying Kessel that huge salary, they let te Leafs do it and got 2 first rounders in the process knowing full well they would get a lottery pick this year.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #203

    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    Your excuse for why he is a plus rating is weak.

    And now you base judgements on their 1st game on a new team.

    Can't wait to see Giggy and Phaneuf exposed tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    Your excuse for why he is a plus rating is weak.

    And now you base judgements on their 1st game on a new team.

    Can't wait to see Giggy and Phaneuf exposed tonight.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 10:52 PM ET #204

    Relax leafs4life one game against New Jersey who played there worst game of the year! Plus no Brodeur that always helps. One game aint going to tell you anything. Phaneuf didn't run around like he has in Calgary all year that will change as the year goes on.
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    Relax leafs4life one game against New Jersey who played there worst game of the year! Plus no Brodeur that always helps. One game aint going to tell you anything. Phaneuf didn't run around like he has in Calgary all year that will change as the year goes on.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 10:55 PM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:

    I have never ever appreciated Phaneuf's play. if you look in last months most overrated player thread. wiggins and myself each nominated dion phaneuf as most overrated. just because i dont bleed blue and white doesnt mean i need to bend over to appreciate the "supposed" center of the universe of hockey. i heard the same whiny comments from leafs fans when i predicted during the off season that theyd finish in the cellar this year.

    now i suppose the leafs are winning the cup after one game in toronto. you guys sure know ur stuff.

    Well said Flutimaniac341 its one game without Brodeur in the net and now the Leafs are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:

    I have never ever appreciated Phaneuf's play. if you look in last months most overrated player thread. wiggins and myself each nominated dion phaneuf as most overrated. just because i dont bleed blue and white doesnt mean i need to bend over to appreciate the "supposed" center of the universe of hockey. i heard the same whiny comments from leafs fans when i predicted during the off season that theyd finish in the cellar this year.

    now i suppose the leafs are winning the cup after one game in toronto. you guys sure know ur stuff.

    Well said Flutimaniac341 its one game without Brodeur in the net and now the Leafs are great!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 11:05 PM ET #206

    Yep bring on the cup a norris for phaneuf and a vezna for giggy! Hell were going to repeat then threepeat.

    You know somebody would have taken a shot at me if they had a bad night but for now.

    Fuck u all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Yep bring on the cup a norris for phaneuf and a vezna for giggy! Hell were going to repeat then threepeat.

    You know somebody would have taken a shot at me if they had a bad night but for now.

    Fuck u all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 11:05 PM ET #207

    I'm waiting for that Leafs are a playoff team thread to get going again now. LOL
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    I'm waiting for that Leafs are a playoff team thread to get going again now. LOL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2010 - 11:12 PM ET #208

    Wow I think Phaneuf had it easy in Calgary, I think the fans here have a pretty high tolerance level for sub par performance. I don't think he will fair as well with the Leafs fans. The last couple of years we watched him go from a hard hitting hard working D, to a prima donna who was more focused on his superstar status then playing his heart out every night. It was really frustrating to watch. For his sake I hope he does well in TO.
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    Wow I think Phaneuf had it easy in Calgary, I think the fans here have a pretty high tolerance level for sub par performance. I don't think he will fair as well with the Leafs fans. The last couple of years we watched him go from a hard hitting hard working D, to a prima donna who was more focused on his superstar status then playing his heart out every night. It was really frustrating to watch. For his sake I hope he does well in TO.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET #209

    Kaberle is going to the Buffalo Sabres

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    Drew Stafford and Prospect Tyler Ennis

    you watch...!

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    Kaberle is going to the Buffalo Sabres

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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #210

    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    What if it wasn't Kessel but rather say David Booth or Bryan Little....or even Loui Eriksson?

    You could make the same argument with those guys (young guys with a 30+ goal season)

    You wouldn't use your arguments for Kessel with those 3 guys. But in reality those 3 and others have just as good a chance as Kessel.

     

    Your right you can make the arguement with those guys too, so how does that downplay kessel in any way? Booth and Erikkson both got raises and both make 4.5 mil starting next season, and kessel makes 5.4..  except most people will agree kessel has more potential than both.  Either way people throw kessel under the bus when he is right there with those guys, and is more of a true sniper Eriksson had the same amount of goals as kessel last season, but he played all 82 games to kessels 70, and this year kessel has a higher goal per game rate, and booth had 31 goals in 72 games last year, and he is 25. Im not trying to nit pick here but what exactly is your arguement?  Ive said the same thing all along, that  yes burke might have made a bad trade, BUT no one knows right now, and kessel is not as bad as people make him out to be.  Age is relevant actually, especially when you are only 22 years old..  His ceiling is still high.. know one is labelling him as a saviour, but call a spade a spade and say that Kessel has the potential to be a top sniper, and cannot conceivably be labelled overrated at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBguru:

    What if it wasn't Kessel but rather say David Booth or Bryan Little....or even Loui Eriksson?

    You could make the same argument with those guys (young guys with a 30+ goal season)

    You wouldn't use your arguments for Kessel with those 3 guys. But in reality those 3 and others have just as good a chance as Kessel.

     

    Your right you can make the arguement with those guys too, so how does that downplay kessel in any way? Booth and Erikkson both got raises and both make 4.5 mil starting next season, and kessel makes 5.4..  except most people will agree kessel has more potential than both.  Either way people throw kessel under the bus when he is right there with those guys, and is more of a true sniper Eriksson had the same amount of goals as kessel last season, but he played all 82 games to kessels 70, and this year kessel has a higher goal per game rate, and booth had 31 goals in 72 games last year, and he is 25. Im not trying to nit pick here but what exactly is your arguement?  Ive said the same thing all along, that  yes burke might have made a bad trade, BUT no one knows right now, and kessel is not as bad as people make him out to be.  Age is relevant actually, especially when you are only 22 years old..  His ceiling is still high.. know one is labelling him as a saviour, but call a spade a spade and say that Kessel has the potential to be a top sniper, and cannot conceivably be labelled overrated at this point.
     
     
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    My argument was that if it was one of those guys instead of Kessel in that trade, all Leaf fans would be crying.

    But really how much better in Kessel than those guys?  He's not...in fact not only do they score but a couple of those guys mentioned hit/scrap and do other intangibles.

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    My argument was that if it was one of those guys instead of Kessel in that trade, all Leaf fans would be crying.

    But really how much better in Kessel than those guys?  He's not...in fact not only do they score but a couple of those guys mentioned hit/scrap and do other intangibles.

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