What is offside?

Full disclosure, I was on Oil, and hated the play at the time.  Having looked closely at it a few times, and I can understand the call they made.

Agreed 

Basically what that disaster told me was… 

Bend over  Canada, Gary said this ain’t your year again 

Doc - "control" of the puck only matters on an offsides where the player with "control" of the puck enters the zone with skates before puck (i.e. Makar is skating backwards or transitioning from forward to backward).  It is not a factor when player in "control" of the puck is crossing the line with someone else skates in the zone unless the "control" player's stick touches the puck inside the zone before everyone's skates are on the blue line or outside in neutral zone.

I wish they'd get rid of replay.  That play would've been blown dead, and face off outside.  It would eliminate all the delays and bitching and most of the conspiracy bullshit.

Everything I'm hearing is that "according to the letter of the law" it wasn't offside and a good goal. I haven't read the actual rule, but Makar had possession and control and that should not have been a good goal in my opinion.

 Read it out loud, it is nonsense. 
 
 Makar was the person who played the puck into Oil end, can we agree on that?

@benhogan76

My point is the rule of control is meaningless unless the puckhandler's skates are involved.  Makar was clearly outside the blue line, so control is irrelevant.  It now becomes a matter of did his stick remain touching the puck as both stick and puck cross the blue line, while Nichushkin's skates are still in the zone.  at super slo-motion, the puck comes off Makar's stick right at the end of the blue line, and all players skates are on the blue line or outside.  So, it meets the criteria of the rule.

To me, the real miss is the initial call.  At full speed, that is offsides, and everyone (except the Linesman) agrees with that. 

When you say that out loud, it sounds utterly absurd. No offense intended. I get what you’re saying but to say that he wasn’t “in control”’of the puck because it wasn’t “on his stick” when he crossed the blue line, woof, that’s just gross. Ya know??

He pushed the puck across the blue line with a player in the zone, DELAYED OFFSIDES. If he or any other teammate touches the puck in the zone before the player(s) offside gets back onsides it is then an OFFSIDE CALL. He did not touch the puck until after the teammate regained onside by getting back over the blueline.

except his teammate DIDNT regain the blue line. Good try tho

@DestroyThePitch

Control of puck in this scenario is immaterial.  Control of puck is meaningless in this case.  I think that is why a lot of folks are confused on the call.  When and if the puck is actually in contact with an Avs players stick whilst Nichushkin is still in the zone is all that matters.

If you watch the reply and pause it when the puck is about 6 inches across the line, Both Makar and Nichushkin have at least one skate on the blue line (i.e. "re-gained the blue line").  And then rewind 3 milliseconds, and you can see evidence that the puck is not in contact with Makar's stick as it hits the white ice in the zone.  So from that moment to 3 miliseconds later, the intent of onsides is met, and when Makar next touches the puck he and the Avs are onsides.

I had Oil +170 in the game, so I would have loved that challenge to have stood.  Might have meant a 6-6 game late, and maybe OT.

I am not trying to convince anyone they're right or wrong.  Just saying that as a former Ref, the instant replay supported a legit onsides play based on how the rule is written.  Like with anything in life, people will agree to disagree.

@dyamarik

 Communist 

@dyamarik

 so if the puck isn't physically touching the players stick when he enters the zone, it's impossible to be offside?? That's what you're saying?? 

@DestroyThePitch

 Don't know if that is what HE is saying but that is what they are selling the public. It wasn't on his stick so he didn't have control. Thought I knew the rules but evidently, I don't 

@GASportsDoc

 Kinda sounds like what he's saying

@DestroyThePitch

 My point is he made 2 strides with the puck before the blue line so the puck wasn't helter skelter (good ready btw) so he "was" in control of the puck. 

AND the Rangers score again...so we all know what to do on Friday night. 

Offsides is whatever Gary says it is