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    Aussie Battler
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:12 AM ET #1

    Merry Christmas to each and all, hope you all had as much fun as I did.
     
    Now, I cannot believe that the only change was Hauritz for Krejza, can't see how Siddle didn't make way for Hilfenhaus. Brett Lee is clinging to a thread and would want to suddenly find some pace or swing or I'll be emailing CA calling for his head. 
     
    That be said, Australia were in a position to win the last test, as much as the media have belted it. They didn't, or rather couldn't - and that is my main concern, but the Boxing Day stage and the now (rightfully) excited (and therefore fragile) SA psyche [fecking hill, we wunning sumfing] will hopefully deliver a cliffhanger of a test.
     
    Australian cricket Test sides don't just lay down.
     
     
     
    Australia @ $2.30 (4)
     
    First Man Out: Neil McKenzie @ $1.80 (1)
     
    Brad Haddin v Mark Boucher @ $1.80 (1) 
     
    Makhaya Ntini v Brett Lee @ $1.93 (2)
     
     
     
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    Merry Christmas to each and all, hope you all had as much fun as I did.
     
    Now, I cannot believe that the only change was Hauritz for Krejza, can't see how Siddle didn't make way for Hilfenhaus. Brett Lee is clinging to a thread and would want to suddenly find some pace or swing or I'll be emailing CA calling for his head. 
     
    That be said, Australia were in a position to win the last test, as much as the media have belted it. They didn't, or rather couldn't - and that is my main concern, but the Boxing Day stage and the now (rightfully) excited (and therefore fragile) SA psyche [fecking hill, we wunning sumfing] will hopefully deliver a cliffhanger of a test.
     
    Australian cricket Test sides don't just lay down.
     
     
     
    Australia @ $2.30 (4)
     
    First Man Out: Neil McKenzie @ $1.80 (1)
     
    Brad Haddin v Mark Boucher @ $1.80 (1) 
     
    Makhaya Ntini v Brett Lee @ $1.93 (2)
     
     
     
     
    Aussie Battler
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:26 AM ET #2

    Please don't hold any gramatical errors against me, as I would have given a shit 12 beers ago.
     
    Adding:
     
    Race to 25 runs (sounds fun):
     
    Hayden v Katich @ $2.25 (1)
     
    Smith v Mckenzie @ $2.00 (1)
     
     
     
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    Please don't hold any gramatical errors against me, as I would have given a shit 12 beers ago.
     
    Adding:
     
    Race to 25 runs (sounds fun):
     
    Hayden v Katich @ $2.25 (1)
     
    Smith v Mckenzie @ $2.00 (1)
     
     
     
     
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    BOL Battler however that price for Sth Africa is an insult (around $4.00). Don't see Australia coming back against this Sth African team who have far more confidence than any other of the touring teams they have sent down under.
     
    Might also hop on a Hayden prop, seems to love this fixture
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    BOL Battler however that price for Sth Africa is an insult (around $4.00). Don't see Australia coming back against this Sth African team who have far more confidence than any other of the touring teams they have sent down under.
     
    Might also hop on a Hayden prop, seems to love this fixture
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:56 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    BOL Battler however that price for Sth Africa is an insult (around $4.00). Don't see Australia coming back against this Sth African team who have far more confidence than any other of the touring teams they have sent down under.
     
    Might also hop on a Hayden prop, seems to love this fixture

    Fair comments mate, Saffers rightly confident. Just having one last grab at the Aussies - now or never.

     

    Haydos has scored 6 centuries in his last seven tests here, or some such ridiculous stat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    BOL Battler however that price for Sth Africa is an insult (around $4.00). Don't see Australia coming back against this Sth African team who have far more confidence than any other of the touring teams they have sent down under.
     
    Might also hop on a Hayden prop, seems to love this fixture

    Fair comments mate, Saffers rightly confident. Just having one last grab at the Aussies - now or never.

     

    Haydos has scored 6 centuries in his last seven tests here, or some such ridiculous stat...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:58 AM ET #5

    hey mate, think the first bet on the aussies is a good one... just wondering which bookie offer those bets...
     
    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
    only 5 keepers out of the last 22 innings have passed points higher than 80.
     
    merry xmas
     
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    hey mate, think the first bet on the aussies is a good one... just wondering which bookie offer those bets...
     
    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
    only 5 keepers out of the last 22 innings have passed points higher than 80.
     
    merry xmas
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 7:13 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by mellow123:

    hey mate, think the first bet on the aussies is a good one... just wondering which bookie offer those bets...
     
    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
    only 5 keepers out of the last 22 innings have passed points higher than 80.
     
    merry xmas
     

    Merry Christmas mellow,

     

    The bets above are placed with sportingbet and centrebet.

     

    Luxbet also has some good cricket markets, but they're not open until the morning (Aust time).

     

    And they're runs mate, not points. However, I'd take both those unders if your book is offering even money. In fact, I'll paypal you some...

     

    Get on

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow123:

    hey mate, think the first bet on the aussies is a good one... just wondering which bookie offer those bets...
     
    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
    only 5 keepers out of the last 22 innings have passed points higher than 80.
     
    merry xmas
     

    Merry Christmas mellow,

     

    The bets above are placed with sportingbet and centrebet.

     

    Luxbet also has some good cricket markets, but they're not open until the morning (Aust time).

     

    And they're runs mate, not points. However, I'd take both those unders if your book is offering even money. In fact, I'll paypal you some...

     

    Get on

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 7:28 AM ET #7

    Hope we get a nice, straw coloured, springy MCG deck with plenty of bounce early on and plenty of turn, and uneven bounce on the 4th and 5th days. The type we used to get up until a few years ago.
     
    That may appear a pipedream though, with drop-in wickets these days playing pretty docile from the word go.
     
    Like the McKenzie vs Smith prop AB, McKenzie looks very under-done. I think he's only a few months or weeks back in the test scene after quite a lengthy break (?)
     
    Reckon Ponting might be worth nibble as well, I get the feeling the captain will be on a real mission in this test.
     
    He also enjoys the 'G'
     
    BOL mate and go the Aussies, although I also can't see them turning things around in this one. The "old" Australia team, yes, but I just don't think our current team has the weapons. Unless the Saffers have a shocker, it's quite possibly 2-0 after this test imo. 
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    Hope we get a nice, straw coloured, springy MCG deck with plenty of bounce early on and plenty of turn, and uneven bounce on the 4th and 5th days. The type we used to get up until a few years ago.
     
    That may appear a pipedream though, with drop-in wickets these days playing pretty docile from the word go.
     
    Like the McKenzie vs Smith prop AB, McKenzie looks very under-done. I think he's only a few months or weeks back in the test scene after quite a lengthy break (?)
     
    Reckon Ponting might be worth nibble as well, I get the feeling the captain will be on a real mission in this test.
     
    He also enjoys the 'G'
     
    BOL mate and go the Aussies, although I also can't see them turning things around in this one. The "old" Australia team, yes, but I just don't think our current team has the weapons. Unless the Saffers have a shocker, it's quite possibly 2-0 after this test imo. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    Hope we get a nice, straw coloured, springy MCG deck with plenty of bounce early on and plenty of turn, and uneven bounce on the 4th and 5th days. The type we used to get up until a few years ago.
     
    That may appear a pipedream though, with drop-in wickets these days playing pretty docile from the word go.
     
    Like the McKenzie vs Smith prop AB, McKenzie looks very under-done. I think he's only a few months or weeks back in the test scene after quite a lengthy break (?)
     
    Reckon Ponting might be worth nibble as well, I get the feeling the captain will be on a real mission in this test.
     
    He also enjoys the 'G'
     
    BOL mate and go the Aussies, although I also can't see them turning things around in this one. The "old" Australia team, yes, but I just don't think our current team has the weapons. Unless the Saffers have a shocker, it's quite possibly 2-0 after this test imo. 

    I heard the curators saying that it will favour the quicks, hence Hilfenhaus? No. The bloody Gabba will be the best pitch in Australia, unless the SGC can be lively but - the state games have been pretty even tracked.

    Whatever happened to character at grounds, it's terrible?

    They weren't far away in the last game, but I'd think Lee is on his last legs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    Hope we get a nice, straw coloured, springy MCG deck with plenty of bounce early on and plenty of turn, and uneven bounce on the 4th and 5th days. The type we used to get up until a few years ago.
     
    That may appear a pipedream though, with drop-in wickets these days playing pretty docile from the word go.
     
    Like the McKenzie vs Smith prop AB, McKenzie looks very under-done. I think he's only a few months or weeks back in the test scene after quite a lengthy break (?)
     
    Reckon Ponting might be worth nibble as well, I get the feeling the captain will be on a real mission in this test.
     
    He also enjoys the 'G'
     
    BOL mate and go the Aussies, although I also can't see them turning things around in this one. The "old" Australia team, yes, but I just don't think our current team has the weapons. Unless the Saffers have a shocker, it's quite possibly 2-0 after this test imo. 

    I heard the curators saying that it will favour the quicks, hence Hilfenhaus? No. The bloody Gabba will be the best pitch in Australia, unless the SGC can be lively but - the state games have been pretty even tracked.

    Whatever happened to character at grounds, it's terrible?

    They weren't far away in the last game, but I'd think Lee is on his last legs...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I heard the curators saying that it will favour the quicks, hence Hilfenhaus? No. The bloody Gabba will be the best pitch in Australia, unless the SGC can be lively but - the state games have been pretty even tracked.

    Whatever happened to character at grounds, it's terrible?

    They weren't far away in the last game, but I'd think Lee is on his last legs...

    absolutely, a decade ago, you could write 1000 words on the characteristics of each pitch at each major test venue in Australia. Nowadays the difference between most of them is pretty negligible. Even Perth is a featherbed. 

    Like you, I'd have loved to see Hilfenhaus given a crack tomorrow. Quite frankly I thought by bringing him into the squad in the first place it was a pretty poignant sign that he'd be in the XI.

    BUT, on the big stage of a boxing day test, with Australia 0-1 down in the series, I suppose you've gotta give the likes of Brett Lee the chance to either rescue his country's hopes and his own career, or sink into eternal oblivion.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I heard the curators saying that it will favour the quicks, hence Hilfenhaus? No. The bloody Gabba will be the best pitch in Australia, unless the SGC can be lively but - the state games have been pretty even tracked.

    Whatever happened to character at grounds, it's terrible?

    They weren't far away in the last game, but I'd think Lee is on his last legs...

    absolutely, a decade ago, you could write 1000 words on the characteristics of each pitch at each major test venue in Australia. Nowadays the difference between most of them is pretty negligible. Even Perth is a featherbed. 

    Like you, I'd have loved to see Hilfenhaus given a crack tomorrow. Quite frankly I thought by bringing him into the squad in the first place it was a pretty poignant sign that he'd be in the XI.

    BUT, on the big stage of a boxing day test, with Australia 0-1 down in the series, I suppose you've gotta give the likes of Brett Lee the chance to either rescue his country's hopes and his own career, or sink into eternal oblivion.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    absolutely, a decade ago, you could write 1000 words on the characteristics of each pitch at each major test venue in Australia. Nowadays the difference between most of them is pretty negligible. Even Perth is a featherbed. 

    Like you, I'd have loved to see Hilfenhaus given a crack tomorrow. Quite frankly I thought by bringing him into the squad in the first place it was a pretty poignant sign that he'd be in the XI.

    BUT, on the big stage of a boxing day test, with Australia 0-1 down in the series, I suppose you've gotta give the likes of Brett Lee the chance to either rescue his country's hopes and his own career, or sink into eternal oblivion.   

    If they were loyal to Lee, which they have shown to be - why not play Hilfenhaus instead of Siddle? This seriously baffles me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    absolutely, a decade ago, you could write 1000 words on the characteristics of each pitch at each major test venue in Australia. Nowadays the difference between most of them is pretty negligible. Even Perth is a featherbed. 

    Like you, I'd have loved to see Hilfenhaus given a crack tomorrow. Quite frankly I thought by bringing him into the squad in the first place it was a pretty poignant sign that he'd be in the XI.

    BUT, on the big stage of a boxing day test, with Australia 0-1 down in the series, I suppose you've gotta give the likes of Brett Lee the chance to either rescue his country's hopes and his own career, or sink into eternal oblivion.   

    If they were loyal to Lee, which they have shown to be - why not play Hilfenhaus instead of Siddle? This seriously baffles me...

     
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    Looks like all very good.
     
    On much the same.
    Thinking of taking Morkel more wickets than Siddle.
     
    Best of luck as always.
     
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    Looks like all very good.
     
    On much the same.
    Thinking of taking Morkel more wickets than Siddle.
     
    Best of luck as always.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:13 PM ET #12

    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
     
    MELLOW
     
    Can't find them on the site bet365.
    Any assistance greatly appreciated.
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    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
     
    MELLOW
     
    Can't find them on the site bet365.
    Any assistance greatly appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 6:55 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
     
    MELLOW
     
    Can't find them on the site bet365.
    Any assistance greatly appreciated.

     

    sorry mate... they closed their markets 30mins before the game started. they offer player performance on most test games and the big one day games @ odds of 1.83

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    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

    365 offer some interesting bets on player performances...
     
    haddin u91 points
    bouchers u82 points
     
     
    MELLOW
     
    Can't find them on the site bet365.
    Any assistance greatly appreciated.

     

    sorry mate... they closed their markets 30mins before the game started. they offer player performance on most test games and the big one day games @ odds of 1.83

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 7:00 PM ET #14

    Thanks alot mate.
     
    Very interested at those odds.
     
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    Thanks alot mate.
     
    Very interested at those odds.
     
     
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    AB.

    Hope you had a Merry Christmas.

    'Tis been awhile since I've been on the site!

    Awaiting another brilliant go at the AFL in March.  And a wee dabble on the NRL.

    Hee hee hee...........

    Hope you'll be ready with me!
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    AB.

    Hope you had a Merry Christmas.

    'Tis been awhile since I've been on the site!

    Awaiting another brilliant go at the AFL in March.  And a wee dabble on the NRL.

    Hee hee hee...........

    Hope you'll be ready with me!
     
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    HoH, nice to see you mate.
     
    Hope you had a wonderful Christmas as well.
     
    I wish the NRL would start tomorrow mate
     
     
     
     
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    HoH, nice to see you mate.
     
    Hope you had a wonderful Christmas as well.
     
    I wish the NRL would start tomorrow mate
     
     
     
     
    Newcastle Roosters
     
     
     
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    Hayden v Katich @ $2.25 (1) =
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    First Man Out: Neil McKenzie @ $1.80 (1) =
    First to 25 runs: Smith v Mckenzie @ $2.00 (1) =
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    battler



    i cannot stand watching brett lee bowl,he is giving me the shits
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    i cannot stand watching brett lee bowl,he is giving me the shits
     
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    Ace, I can't see why Hilfenhaus didn't start
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 12:12 AM ET #21

    siddle picking up some key wickets..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    battler



    i cannot stand watching brett lee bowl,he is giving me the shits

    like a bowling machine set on "half volley" and "wide long-hop"

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    i cannot stand watching brett lee bowl,he is giving me the shits

    like a bowling machine set on "half volley" and "wide long-hop"

     
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    Or as Bill Lawrie would say:   Siddle the hero of the MCG, the buzz, the crowd, I love him, get him up here I wanna boof him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    Or as Bill Lawrie would say:   Siddle the hero of the MCG, the buzz, the crowd, I love him, get him up here I wanna boof him!

    William Lawry

     

    I named my son after him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    Or as Bill Lawrie would say:   Siddle the hero of the MCG, the buzz, the crowd, I love him, get him up here I wanna boof him!

    William Lawry

     

    I named my son after him

     
     
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    Brad Haddin v Mark Boucher @ $1.80 (1) =
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