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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2008 - 11:58 PM ET #26

    I have a busy schedule over the next couple days, so this will be my last post until late Sunday night. Like I said the Jets are the pick, now picking this early on other games could endager me of losing so I will not give an official pick to the other games but I will tell you that SD Charger or the NO Saints will cover and possibly both will cover, but remember it is early. Now to explain why I don't like to pick early, You know I have been saying the refs fix the games. When unexpected things happen and the refs can't control a game such as a blowout, this changes the schedule.. The reason a ref may not be able to control a blowout is that a ref can only penalize a team so much before it looks suspicious, If you call back an 80 yard TD, no big deal but if you call back 3 TD's it becomes headlines. They want to stay under the radar. When a team is just on fire and unstoppable the refs have to let it go and fight another day. However, on the same day other games will change.IE possibly the NO or SD game. Since the refs couldn't stop the team that was on fire, other refs will get the job done on another game that day. I know this may be confusing for some or downright insane but what can I say? It is. Now that is my explanation for why nothing is 100% and why I don't pick early. Remember that Sports Betting is also a business, If Vegas loses money to the public on a game the refs couldn't control,  Vegas will get it back quick on other games the public is betting heavy on. Explaining how it works is a mind bender and makes people think you are a nutjob. Glad I can provide entertainment.
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    I have a busy schedule over the next couple days, so this will be my last post until late Sunday night. Like I said the Jets are the pick, now picking this early on other games could endager me of losing so I will not give an official pick to the other games but I will tell you that SD Charger or the NO Saints will cover and possibly both will cover, but remember it is early. Now to explain why I don't like to pick early, You know I have been saying the refs fix the games. When unexpected things happen and the refs can't control a game such as a blowout, this changes the schedule.. The reason a ref may not be able to control a blowout is that a ref can only penalize a team so much before it looks suspicious, If you call back an 80 yard TD, no big deal but if you call back 3 TD's it becomes headlines. They want to stay under the radar. When a team is just on fire and unstoppable the refs have to let it go and fight another day. However, on the same day other games will change.IE possibly the NO or SD game. Since the refs couldn't stop the team that was on fire, other refs will get the job done on another game that day. I know this may be confusing for some or downright insane but what can I say? It is. Now that is my explanation for why nothing is 100% and why I don't pick early. Remember that Sports Betting is also a business, If Vegas loses money to the public on a game the refs couldn't control,  Vegas will get it back quick on other games the public is betting heavy on. Explaining how it works is a mind bender and makes people think you are a nutjob. Glad I can provide entertainment.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2008 - 12:40 AM ET #27

    bottom line if you really CAN WIN
    do what I did move to NEVADA.
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    bottom line if you really CAN WIN
    do what I did move to NEVADA.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 1:42 AM ET #28

    Mr. Smith I have been capping games off & on for over 20 years. I have never really tried to follow or create my own formula to follow, but this is something i am seriously looking into and your statements intrigue me. Is there a way i could incorporate what you are saying about big business, refs & the hidden agendas; into my system for capping games long term. I am not interested in having a good game or week, but long term outting the outcome consistently in my favor????
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    Mr. Smith I have been capping games off & on for over 20 years. I have never really tried to follow or create my own formula to follow, but this is something i am seriously looking into and your statements intrigue me. Is there a way i could incorporate what you are saying about big business, refs & the hidden agendas; into my system for capping games long term. I am not interested in having a good game or week, but long term outting the outcome consistently in my favor????
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 2:00 AM ET #29

    Is this guy a tool or what?...bullshit 10 year study. Maybe you got tired of getting your assed kicked capping games and getting moosed that you decided to strum up some kinda BS story to ease your pain...you need help. And entertainment is all you're providing..i laughed....
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    Is this guy a tool or what?...bullshit 10 year study. Maybe you got tired of getting your assed kicked capping games and getting moosed that you decided to strum up some kinda BS story to ease your pain...you need help. And entertainment is all you're providing..i laughed....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 2:18 AM ET #30

    I do not post much but I read a lot and follow sports very closely.  Just commenting on the "hype" for Tennessee, and that being the instigator of this type of "fix".  Obviously a team that is 10-0 is going to get a large portion of media coverage, it's part of what is a profitable season to the franchise.  This game is too flashy for anyone to fix, a lot of people know that Tenn. will lose once or twice this season and I believe this is one of the games.  Back to being flashy and a post earlier about getting the public money back on another public game......The Jets win and pay the public but the less flashy public play is Balt and Philly....also in the media w/ McNabb being a screw up everyone will be pouring their money on Balt.  This is the game to take Philly when everyone thinks their QB is less than genius.

    Jeff- I enjoy reading your posts, keep em coming

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    I do not post much but I read a lot and follow sports very closely.  Just commenting on the "hype" for Tennessee, and that being the instigator of this type of "fix".  Obviously a team that is 10-0 is going to get a large portion of media coverage, it's part of what is a profitable season to the franchise.  This game is too flashy for anyone to fix, a lot of people know that Tenn. will lose once or twice this season and I believe this is one of the games.  Back to being flashy and a post earlier about getting the public money back on another public game......The Jets win and pay the public but the less flashy public play is Balt and Philly....also in the media w/ McNabb being a screw up everyone will be pouring their money on Balt.  This is the game to take Philly when everyone thinks their QB is less than genius.

    Jeff- I enjoy reading your posts, keep em coming

    Dawg- Best of Luck but keep it civil

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 2:23 AM ET #31

    Sayin the Greatest Show on Turf never covered is moronic my friend. The Rams were a covering machine those years and God's Gift to Gamblers. I know because I moved to St. Louis in 1999 and they turned me on to football. Too bad I did not even think to start gambling until after they turned to dogshit.
     
    That statement hurts your creditbility a lot in my eyes. And I disagree the system is rigged. The public wins about half the time and over the course of any season Vegas wins big because of the 10% vig on such an enormous volume of bets. Tried to follow such a system and had the worst month of gambling in my entire life. End of story.
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    Sayin the Greatest Show on Turf never covered is moronic my friend. The Rams were a covering machine those years and God's Gift to Gamblers. I know because I moved to St. Louis in 1999 and they turned me on to football. Too bad I did not even think to start gambling until after they turned to dogshit.
     
    That statement hurts your creditbility a lot in my eyes. And I disagree the system is rigged. The public wins about half the time and over the course of any season Vegas wins big because of the 10% vig on such an enormous volume of bets. Tried to follow such a system and had the worst month of gambling in my entire life. End of story.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2008 - 4:17 AM ET #32

    I don't post much either but i liked your topic of discussion here.  Call me weird as well but sometimes i do think the refs are in on the "fix".  Football players are constantly "fouling" each other so its easy for refs to set up a situation to their liking. Tell me a time when you saw a player screaming and yelling for a flag (AND EVERYBODY SEES IT!) and no flag gets thrown.  Refs can pick and choose.
     Instant replay is in question as well in my opinion.  We all seen instant replay mistakes.  im kinda rambling on now but let me tell you something off subject but worth telling. 
    Maybe about 5 years ago in vegas, partied the nite b4 but nonetheless got great sleep so friends and i could check out Hard Rock's daytime poolside club called 'Rehab Sunday".  So im at one of the blackjack tables and figured i 'd play a couple hands b4 going to the pool.  Im sitting all the way right seat( im 1st to get dealt) and im playing multideck blackjack out the shoe with a female dealer with long nails.  The whole time there the shoe was making weird "clicking noises" and the dealer is trying to blend her "nail tapping" agianst the back of the shoe.  Out of the corner  of my eye "I SAW CARDS SLIDE OVER THE TOP CARD IN THE SHOE!!"  We all needed cards and we all busted.  OK.....Now when i saw this happening  , the dealer noticed me see it and she basically got so nervous and scared( I COULD SEE IT ON HER EXPOSED FACE)  she was probably wondering when i was going to explode with anger or something yelling out " This shit is fixed!" or something.  But i didn't.  Maybe becuz i was so shocked and surprised to see this,  i was speechless or i also thought of me being an out-of-towner maybe i should just keep shut.  But just the expression on her face seriusly said it all.  Believe it or not? I do. Never played those card games again.  Take it for what its worth people.
    Ok now getting back to the 'fix' .  i do think its true and very mafia influenced.  pittburgh i hear is percieved this way.   vegas was made from mafia money.  and sometimes playing away from the public is good bet sometimes but only certain games.  I've seen games go so smooth, bearly any calls and then again sometimes flag after flag. 
    Its weird sometimes though cuz when your money is on the line, and the ref makes a shitty call, but it benefits you, i'll take it everytime. 
    but yea the refs do it in a way where no one can really say its true. a little here and a little there.  or how about those meaningless tds to fo ver a total or a callback td to keep it under.  or the last pitt game and then apoligized after?
    what kinda shit is that?  So to make the pitt mafia clan, happy pitt wins and covers.  its fishy. 
    just my 2 cents.
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    I don't post much either but i liked your topic of discussion here.  Call me weird as well but sometimes i do think the refs are in on the "fix".  Football players are constantly "fouling" each other so its easy for refs to set up a situation to their liking. Tell me a time when you saw a player screaming and yelling for a flag (AND EVERYBODY SEES IT!) and no flag gets thrown.  Refs can pick and choose.
     Instant replay is in question as well in my opinion.  We all seen instant replay mistakes.  im kinda rambling on now but let me tell you something off subject but worth telling. 
    Maybe about 5 years ago in vegas, partied the nite b4 but nonetheless got great sleep so friends and i could check out Hard Rock's daytime poolside club called 'Rehab Sunday".  So im at one of the blackjack tables and figured i 'd play a couple hands b4 going to the pool.  Im sitting all the way right seat( im 1st to get dealt) and im playing multideck blackjack out the shoe with a female dealer with long nails.  The whole time there the shoe was making weird "clicking noises" and the dealer is trying to blend her "nail tapping" agianst the back of the shoe.  Out of the corner  of my eye "I SAW CARDS SLIDE OVER THE TOP CARD IN THE SHOE!!"  We all needed cards and we all busted.  OK.....Now when i saw this happening  , the dealer noticed me see it and she basically got so nervous and scared( I COULD SEE IT ON HER EXPOSED FACE)  she was probably wondering when i was going to explode with anger or something yelling out " This shit is fixed!" or something.  But i didn't.  Maybe becuz i was so shocked and surprised to see this,  i was speechless or i also thought of me being an out-of-towner maybe i should just keep shut.  But just the expression on her face seriusly said it all.  Believe it or not? I do. Never played those card games again.  Take it for what its worth people.
    Ok now getting back to the 'fix' .  i do think its true and very mafia influenced.  pittburgh i hear is percieved this way.   vegas was made from mafia money.  and sometimes playing away from the public is good bet sometimes but only certain games.  I've seen games go so smooth, bearly any calls and then again sometimes flag after flag. 
    Its weird sometimes though cuz when your money is on the line, and the ref makes a shitty call, but it benefits you, i'll take it everytime. 
    but yea the refs do it in a way where no one can really say its true. a little here and a little there.  or how about those meaningless tds to fo ver a total or a callback td to keep it under.  or the last pitt game and then apoligized after?
    what kinda shit is that?  So to make the pitt mafia clan, happy pitt wins and covers.  its fishy. 
    just my 2 cents.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pddy:

    I don't post much either but i liked your topic of discussion here.  Call me weird as well but sometimes i do think the refs are in on the "fix".  Football players are constantly "fouling" each other so its easy for refs to set up a situation to their liking. Tell me a time when you saw a player screaming and yelling for a flag (AND EVERYBODY SEES IT!) and no flag gets thrown.  Refs can pick and choose.
     Instant replay is in question as well in my opinion.  We all seen instant replay mistakes.  im kinda rambling on now but let me tell you something off subject but worth telling. 
    Maybe about 5 years ago in vegas, partied the nite b4 but nonetheless got great sleep so friends and i could check out Hard Rock's daytime poolside club called 'Rehab Sunday".  So im at one of the blackjack tables and figured i 'd play a couple hands b4 going to the pool.  Im sitting all the way right seat( im 1st to get dealt) and im playing multideck blackjack out the shoe with a female dealer with long nails.  The whole time there the shoe was making weird "clicking noises" and the dealer is trying to blend her "nail tapping" agianst the back of the shoe.  Out of the corner  of my eye "I SAW CARDS SLIDE OVER THE TOP CARD IN THE SHOE!!"  We all needed cards and we all busted.  OK.....Now when i saw this happening  , the dealer noticed me see it and she basically got so nervous and scared( I COULD SEE IT ON HER EXPOSED FACE)  she was probably wondering when i was going to explode with anger or something yelling out " This shit is fixed!" or something.  But i didn't.  Maybe becuz i was so shocked and surprised to see this,  i was speechless or i also thought of me being an out-of-towner maybe i should just keep shut.  But just the expression on her face seriusly said it all.  Believe it or not? I do. Never played those card games again.  Take it for what its worth people.
    Ok now getting back to the 'fix' .  i do think its true and very mafia influenced.  pittburgh i hear is percieved this way.   vegas was made from mafia money.  and sometimes playing away from the public is good bet sometimes but only certain games.  I've seen games go so smooth, bearly any calls and then again sometimes flag after flag. 
    Its weird sometimes though cuz when your money is on the line, and the ref makes a shitty call, but it benefits you, i'll take it everytime. 
    but yea the refs do it in a way where no one can really say its true. a little here and a little there.  or how about those meaningless tds to fo ver a total or a callback td to keep it under.  or the last pitt game and then apoligized after?
    what kinda shit is that?  So to make the pitt mafia clan, happy pitt wins and covers.  its fishy. 
    just my 2 cents.

    Sorry I couldn't help but to respond to this! I deal cards in vegas and can assure you this did not happen. I am sure the Hard Rock Casino is going to risk losing its gaming license over a five dollar shoe game out by the pool. I deal out of a shoe every day and it is impossible for cards to slide over the top card! You think the dealer was in on this. Ha Ha  

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    Quote Originally Posted by pddy:

    I don't post much either but i liked your topic of discussion here.  Call me weird as well but sometimes i do think the refs are in on the "fix".  Football players are constantly "fouling" each other so its easy for refs to set up a situation to their liking. Tell me a time when you saw a player screaming and yelling for a flag (AND EVERYBODY SEES IT!) and no flag gets thrown.  Refs can pick and choose.
     Instant replay is in question as well in my opinion.  We all seen instant replay mistakes.  im kinda rambling on now but let me tell you something off subject but worth telling. 
    Maybe about 5 years ago in vegas, partied the nite b4 but nonetheless got great sleep so friends and i could check out Hard Rock's daytime poolside club called 'Rehab Sunday".  So im at one of the blackjack tables and figured i 'd play a couple hands b4 going to the pool.  Im sitting all the way right seat( im 1st to get dealt) and im playing multideck blackjack out the shoe with a female dealer with long nails.  The whole time there the shoe was making weird "clicking noises" and the dealer is trying to blend her "nail tapping" agianst the back of the shoe.  Out of the corner  of my eye "I SAW CARDS SLIDE OVER THE TOP CARD IN THE SHOE!!"  We all needed cards and we all busted.  OK.....Now when i saw this happening  , the dealer noticed me see it and she basically got so nervous and scared( I COULD SEE IT ON HER EXPOSED FACE)  she was probably wondering when i was going to explode with anger or something yelling out " This shit is fixed!" or something.  But i didn't.  Maybe becuz i was so shocked and surprised to see this,  i was speechless or i also thought of me being an out-of-towner maybe i should just keep shut.  But just the expression on her face seriusly said it all.  Believe it or not? I do. Never played those card games again.  Take it for what its worth people.
    Ok now getting back to the 'fix' .  i do think its true and very mafia influenced.  pittburgh i hear is percieved this way.   vegas was made from mafia money.  and sometimes playing away from the public is good bet sometimes but only certain games.  I've seen games go so smooth, bearly any calls and then again sometimes flag after flag. 
    Its weird sometimes though cuz when your money is on the line, and the ref makes a shitty call, but it benefits you, i'll take it everytime. 
    but yea the refs do it in a way where no one can really say its true. a little here and a little there.  or how about those meaningless tds to fo ver a total or a callback td to keep it under.  or the last pitt game and then apoligized after?
    what kinda shit is that?  So to make the pitt mafia clan, happy pitt wins and covers.  its fishy. 
    just my 2 cents.

    Sorry I couldn't help but to respond to this! I deal cards in vegas and can assure you this did not happen. I am sure the Hard Rock Casino is going to risk losing its gaming license over a five dollar shoe game out by the pool. I deal out of a shoe every day and it is impossible for cards to slide over the top card! You think the dealer was in on this. Ha Ha  

     
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    Jeff, you are absolutely right.  My grand uncle said he was in on this back then with the guys in Vegas in the late 1990s for 4 yrs.  Never knew until he recently told me.  He found out I gamled too much. 
     
    Guys, don't be too naive.  It makes me mad to see them robbing people and being able to get away with it year after year, game after game.  This is a very BIG organization and lots of VERY important people are in on it.   Players and coaches such as QBs, D captains, O&D coordinators and officials are in on it.  The more hype the game, the more they like it, and the more it will turn out wrong.  Those new in-helmet speakers for certain players are there for a reason.    
     
    For instance...
    Remember the Texan's very first opeing NFL game welcoming them to the NFL in 02 against the Cowboys?  Cows got wooped by exactly 9.  They figured double digit would be suspicious but wanted to build people's hope in the new team, new stadium, and a new QB (David Carr, who sucks @$$).
     
    Fun fact:  Texans we're originally supposed to be Apollos but lost by one unanimous vote in the franchise board of directors. 
     
    Just think about it.  I'm not getting any richer by wasting my time to write this up.  I've said it and I finally feel good about it.  Thanks for opeing this thread Jeff.
     
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    Jeff, you are absolutely right.  My grand uncle said he was in on this back then with the guys in Vegas in the late 1990s for 4 yrs.  Never knew until he recently told me.  He found out I gamled too much. 
     
    Guys, don't be too naive.  It makes me mad to see them robbing people and being able to get away with it year after year, game after game.  This is a very BIG organization and lots of VERY important people are in on it.   Players and coaches such as QBs, D captains, O&D coordinators and officials are in on it.  The more hype the game, the more they like it, and the more it will turn out wrong.  Those new in-helmet speakers for certain players are there for a reason.    
     
    For instance...
    Remember the Texan's very first opeing NFL game welcoming them to the NFL in 02 against the Cowboys?  Cows got wooped by exactly 9.  They figured double digit would be suspicious but wanted to build people's hope in the new team, new stadium, and a new QB (David Carr, who sucks @$$).
     
    Fun fact:  Texans we're originally supposed to be Apollos but lost by one unanimous vote in the franchise board of directors. 
     
    Just think about it.  I'm not getting any richer by wasting my time to write this up.  I've said it and I finally feel good about it.  Thanks for opeing this thread Jeff.
     
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    I have about 3 minutes for a post so i will use it. To the people here that say I am a nut, so be it. I am not forcing you to listen nor trying to sell you anything. Be on your way and lose all you what. I guess you could call me a handicaper that doesn't bet. lol, that is like a porno star that doesn't have sex I guess. To Ace specifically, the answer is yes. If you must bet I can give you pointers to help long term success. I will be online tonight about 1200am est. I will drop a few more posts, and be entertained by the people that think I am a nut. I will go ahead and give another winner as well to the Monday night game. After I post the winner of that game, that is it. I am done, I am an accountant and it is a busy time of year for me all the way until April. One last thing, so you know your odds of betting. It is a fact that 98% of sports gamblers lose money long term betting. However, 2% make money because they do have a system that works. You must be extremely good with complicated numbers over years, keep good records, and sometimes forget what you know about the teams on the field. With that I am out, to return at midnight to hear that anyone can pick one game. I have heard that most of my adult life. LOL
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    I have about 3 minutes for a post so i will use it. To the people here that say I am a nut, so be it. I am not forcing you to listen nor trying to sell you anything. Be on your way and lose all you what. I guess you could call me a handicaper that doesn't bet. lol, that is like a porno star that doesn't have sex I guess. To Ace specifically, the answer is yes. If you must bet I can give you pointers to help long term success. I will be online tonight about 1200am est. I will drop a few more posts, and be entertained by the people that think I am a nut. I will go ahead and give another winner as well to the Monday night game. After I post the winner of that game, that is it. I am done, I am an accountant and it is a busy time of year for me all the way until April. One last thing, so you know your odds of betting. It is a fact that 98% of sports gamblers lose money long term betting. However, 2% make money because they do have a system that works. You must be extremely good with complicated numbers over years, keep good records, and sometimes forget what you know about the teams on the field. With that I am out, to return at midnight to hear that anyone can pick one game. I have heard that most of my adult life. LOL
     
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    Certainly agree that is is rigged in some shape, form or fashion...nobodyu is that good and picking under/over totals and spreads that hit or miss by half points.  it would be sad to think that the entire sport is rigged in every aspect.
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    Certainly agree that is is rigged in some shape, form or fashion...nobodyu is that good and picking under/over totals and spreads that hit or miss by half points.  it would be sad to think that the entire sport is rigged in every aspect.
     
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    curious though, you pick a team today, you are picking a team tomorrow....then you say "thats it"  lol  busy til april???  NO job consumes you for months at a time, at least not in the regard that it takes less than one minute to post picks....and basically, you lose tomorrow night and we dont hear from you again because you will be too busy....interesting
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    curious though, you pick a team today, you are picking a team tomorrow....then you say "thats it"  lol  busy til april???  NO job consumes you for months at a time, at least not in the regard that it takes less than one minute to post picks....and basically, you lose tomorrow night and we dont hear from you again because you will be too busy....interesting
     
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    I never said you wouldn't here from me, and yes I am busy until April. I will continue to post just not anymore picks, why should I post picks? I am not here to keep giving free winners. I am only giving away a couple winners to get your attention. My original reason for posting was not to pick the games for you. Believe me I have enough locals calling me daily for picks to drive me insane. I am not here to get paid for picking games. It is hard to respond to every post I see but to answer, It is rigged from point spread to over under and halftime lines. Lets just say Vegas doesn't miss a trick. I can explain how every sport is rigged in detail.
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    I never said you wouldn't here from me, and yes I am busy until April. I will continue to post just not anymore picks, why should I post picks? I am not here to keep giving free winners. I am only giving away a couple winners to get your attention. My original reason for posting was not to pick the games for you. Believe me I have enough locals calling me daily for picks to drive me insane. I am not here to get paid for picking games. It is hard to respond to every post I see but to answer, It is rigged from point spread to over under and halftime lines. Lets just say Vegas doesn't miss a trick. I can explain how every sport is rigged in detail.
     
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    lol....two games doesnt mean you pick winners.  what would convince me is you you picked 50 games....won all of them...then we would all know you have an inisder tip.  other than that...anyone can win 2 games and call it quits...prove yourself!  make us all believers...and please do explain in detail how its all rigged...lets start with football (college)
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    lol....two games doesnt mean you pick winners.  what would convince me is you you picked 50 games....won all of them...then we would all know you have an inisder tip.  other than that...anyone can win 2 games and call it quits...prove yourself!  make us all believers...and please do explain in detail how its all rigged...lets start with football (college)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffSmith70:

    I never said you wouldn't here from me, and yes I am busy until April. I will continue to post just not anymore picks, why should I post picks? I am not here to keep giving free winners. I am only giving away a couple winners to get your attention. My original reason for posting was not to pick the games for you. Believe me I have enough locals calling me daily for picks to drive me insane. I am not here to get paid for picking games. It is hard to respond to every post I see but to answer, It is rigged from point spread to over under and halftime lines. Lets just say Vegas doesn't miss a trick. I can explain how every sport is rigged in detail.
    buddy, u've picked 1 game so far, the jets.  u also said either SD OR NO will cover(which i find comical) so ur 1-1 as far as anyone here is concerned. u cant even go 2-0, how is anyone supposed to believe a word ur saying.  alot of mumbo jumbo and then u say u cant hand out any more winners, when in fact u picked one game.  u even have theory believing u have picked two winners
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    I never said you wouldn't here from me, and yes I am busy until April. I will continue to post just not anymore picks, why should I post picks? I am not here to keep giving free winners. I am only giving away a couple winners to get your attention. My original reason for posting was not to pick the games for you. Believe me I have enough locals calling me daily for picks to drive me insane. I am not here to get paid for picking games. It is hard to respond to every post I see but to answer, It is rigged from point spread to over under and halftime lines. Lets just say Vegas doesn't miss a trick. I can explain how every sport is rigged in detail.
    buddy, u've picked 1 game so far, the jets.  u also said either SD OR NO will cover(which i find comical) so ur 1-1 as far as anyone here is concerned. u cant even go 2-0, how is anyone supposed to believe a word ur saying.  alot of mumbo jumbo and then u say u cant hand out any more winners, when in fact u picked one game.  u even have theory believing u have picked two winners
     
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    Ok let me get this str8, you want me to give you 50 winners without losing? First of all that would be impossible, I could give you at least 40 winners of the 50, if you would read my previous posts you would know that even best case when a referee plans to fix a game it doesn't always go as planned. Some games are unfixable when a team just blows another team out. Like I said you can only throw so many flags before it looks bad and you have to give up on that game. 40 or 45 out of 50 is still not bad. However, I am not going to do it. And Mr  Theory I also predicted that people like you would say that one or two winners doesn't prove anything if you read my earlier posts. Next, I need not prove anything. You can leave at anytime that is the beauty of it.

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    Ok let me get this str8, you want me to give you 50 winners without losing? First of all that would be impossible, I could give you at least 40 winners of the 50, if you would read my previous posts you would know that even best case when a referee plans to fix a game it doesn't always go as planned. Some games are unfixable when a team just blows another team out. Like I said you can only throw so many flags before it looks bad and you have to give up on that game. 40 or 45 out of 50 is still not bad. However, I am not going to do it. And Mr  Theory I also predicted that people like you would say that one or two winners doesn't prove anything if you read my earlier posts. Next, I need not prove anything. You can leave at anytime that is the beauty of it.

     
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    would u agree ur 1-1 so far with the jets and sd? and now comes the no win since sd lost right?
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    would u agree ur 1-1 so far with the jets and sd? and now comes the no win since sd lost right?
     
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    like i thought
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    Well if you are a tout your in the wrong place. If I see you post your e-mail or any contact information, you will get banned like all the rest who try to go tout here.
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    Well if you are a tout your in the wrong place. If I see you post your e-mail or any contact information, you will get banned like all the rest who try to go tout here.
     
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    i am interested to know what you pick for MNF. I have always suspected that certain games are "fixed". We have to remember that the NFL is a business, and there is also a bigger business behind it, sports gambling...
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    i am interested to know what you pick for MNF. I have always suspected that certain games are "fixed". We have to remember that the NFL is a business, and there is also a bigger business behind it, sports gambling...
     
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    Well if you are a tout your in the wrong place. If I see you post your e-mail or any contact information, you will get banned like all the rest who try to go tout here.
     
    Relax hallmonitor.......this is a good discussion.  Let the man speak his points, and if you disagree, post your opinion and don't go cryin to your mommy.
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    Well if you are a tout your in the wrong place. If I see you post your e-mail or any contact information, you will get banned like all the rest who try to go tout here.
     
    Relax hallmonitor.......this is a good discussion.  Let the man speak his points, and if you disagree, post your opinion and don't go cryin to your mommy.
     
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    hes already setting up the business with ace, aj and raballes a combined 7 posts coming to his defense.  saf's
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    hes already setting up the business with ace, aj and raballes a combined 7 posts coming to his defense.  saf's
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckubad:

    hes already setting up the business with ace, aj and raballes a combined 7 posts coming to his defense.  saf's

    What makes you so nervous about an opinion?  

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    What makes you so nervous about an opinion?  

     
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    Ok first I am not 1-1, I am 1-0, I gave the Jets as the winner, I then stated that either SD or NO would cover and I said possibly both would cover. But if you read I also stated on the SD or NO I did not want to pick this too early.Read my posts again before you take me out of context, I gave the Jets as the definate winner. The Jets won, and I will post the Monday night winner NEW ORLEANS.
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    Ok first I am not 1-1, I am 1-0, I gave the Jets as the winner, I then stated that either SD or NO would cover and I said possibly both would cover. But if you read I also stated on the SD or NO I did not want to pick this too early.Read my posts again before you take me out of context, I gave the Jets as the definate winner. The Jets won, and I will post the Monday night winner NEW ORLEANS.
     
     
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    Hey, MR referee I could give a shit less if I do get banned!!!! what have I lost by you getting me banned? BFD, what I find humerous is that nobody has asked me why I don't bet if I can pick the winners. Next, I find the old saying to be true, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink!!!! I can see the intelligence level declining at this post so true to my word this is my last official pick and i will as promised lay out how football, basketball, and baseball games are fixed, remember I have always said this is complex and I can give you the basics but going into great detail would really make for a huge post.
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    Hey, MR referee I could give a shit less if I do get banned!!!! what have I lost by you getting me banned? BFD, what I find humerous is that nobody has asked me why I don't bet if I can pick the winners. Next, I find the old saying to be true, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink!!!! I can see the intelligence level declining at this post so true to my word this is my last official pick and i will as promised lay out how football, basketball, and baseball games are fixed, remember I have always said this is complex and I can give you the basics but going into great detail would really make for a huge post.
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