Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Twitter and FB ban accounts. “It’s not censorship, you can create your own app.” Then Google and Apple ban apps. “It’s not censorship, create your own website.” Then Amazon bans web hosting. “It’s not censorship, create your own...” What? Your own internet? Just so you can tweet? "We want free markets with limited government regulations." Twitter bans Trump "These companies have run wild. We need sweeping government regulations."
Good point.
Freedom of Expression (speech) is a fundamental democratic RIGHT, that I put on the uniform to protect for 8 years, although there are and should be exceptions in certain cases, as I have posted here
But I also wore the uniform to protect the RIGHT of private companies to make rules and enforce them in regards to their property, entity, domain (much like WE have the right to enforce our own "house rules" in our homes)
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Twitter and FB ban accounts. “It’s not censorship, you can create your own app.” Then Google and Apple ban apps. “It’s not censorship, create your own website.” Then Amazon bans web hosting. “It’s not censorship, create your own...” What? Your own internet? Just so you can tweet? "We want free markets with limited government regulations." Twitter bans Trump "These companies have run wild. We need sweeping government regulations."
Good point.
Freedom of Expression (speech) is a fundamental democratic RIGHT, that I put on the uniform to protect for 8 years, although there are and should be exceptions in certain cases, as I have posted here
But I also wore the uniform to protect the RIGHT of private companies to make rules and enforce them in regards to their property, entity, domain (much like WE have the right to enforce our own "house rules" in our homes)
What exact quote from Trump incited violence? Ill need to see the exact quote and then study what politicians on the left have said to see if the rules are being applied in a fair manner. Thank you.
No one in this forum cares what you "need to see."
It has no bearing on Twitter's ban of Trump's account.
Go ahead and use a search engine to find his recent quotes and do your "studying".
Let us all know how your conversations with Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram CEOs go once you determine if the rules are being applied in a fair manner.
You are almost as detached from reality as your boy Sundance.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
What exact quote from Trump incited violence? Ill need to see the exact quote and then study what politicians on the left have said to see if the rules are being applied in a fair manner. Thank you.
No one in this forum cares what you "need to see."
It has no bearing on Twitter's ban of Trump's account.
Go ahead and use a search engine to find his recent quotes and do your "studying".
Let us all know how your conversations with Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram CEOs go once you determine if the rules are being applied in a fair manner.
You are almost as detached from reality as your boy Sundance.
The left here approves of censorship, suppression of free speech and a host of other anti-American principles. That much is clearly evident by the retarded statements that they make.
It works both ways.
Business across our now communist nation are now in the process of banning Biden supporters and Democrats from entering their business. A cigar/vape shop in Chicago is the first. Many more will follow.
This is what the left wants.
What a fucked up world.
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The left here approves of censorship, suppression of free speech and a host of other anti-American principles. That much is clearly evident by the retarded statements that they make.
It works both ways.
Business across our now communist nation are now in the process of banning Biden supporters and Democrats from entering their business. A cigar/vape shop in Chicago is the first. Many more will follow.
There are "reasonable" restrictions to free speech and Freedom of Expression, and there SHOULD BE! United States free speech exceptionsWikipedia: https://tinyurl.com/kjuyxdd 1 Incitement The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action"Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech. 2 False statements of factThe Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment:1/ false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state" 2/ knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws 3/ negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances.4/ some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation"5/ Perjury 3 ObscenityThe basis for this exception is that justices have believed that obscenity has a "tendency to exert a corrupting and debasing impact leading to antisocial behavior" 4 Child pornography This should be self-evident. 5 Fighting wordsFighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction" 6 Threatening the President of the United States" This also applies to any "President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect." (Nancy Pelosi is 2nd in line behind the President) 7 Speech owned by others copyrights, trademarks, or plagiarism 8 Commercial speech ie, false advertising
Fubs,
Nice breakdown of free speech exceptions.
Again, none of this even matters though because social media companies are not government institutions. They are private firms and organizations, free to make their own rules and guidelines for content produced on their platforms, free of government intervention. Free speech laws do not apply to their decisions because they are not the government. First Amendment speech protections are intended to protect citizens from government overreach and regulation, NOT social media regulations.
These babies crying about censorship and free speech are clearly not educated on the Constitution. Ironic, because they all claim to be such strong constitutionalists.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
There are "reasonable" restrictions to free speech and Freedom of Expression, and there SHOULD BE! United States free speech exceptionsWikipedia: https://tinyurl.com/kjuyxdd 1 Incitement The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action"Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech. 2 False statements of factThe Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment:1/ false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state" 2/ knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws 3/ negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances.4/ some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation"5/ Perjury 3 ObscenityThe basis for this exception is that justices have believed that obscenity has a "tendency to exert a corrupting and debasing impact leading to antisocial behavior" 4 Child pornography This should be self-evident. 5 Fighting wordsFighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction" 6 Threatening the President of the United States" This also applies to any "President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect." (Nancy Pelosi is 2nd in line behind the President) 7 Speech owned by others copyrights, trademarks, or plagiarism 8 Commercial speech ie, false advertising
Fubs,
Nice breakdown of free speech exceptions.
Again, none of this even matters though because social media companies are not government institutions. They are private firms and organizations, free to make their own rules and guidelines for content produced on their platforms, free of government intervention. Free speech laws do not apply to their decisions because they are not the government. First Amendment speech protections are intended to protect citizens from government overreach and regulation, NOT social media regulations.
These babies crying about censorship and free speech are clearly not educated on the Constitution. Ironic, because they all claim to be such strong constitutionalists.
Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
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Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
The GOP no longer has a core set of values or beliefs regarding anything. They flip flop in the wind just like Lindsey Graham. Basically, the position is to agree with anything Trump says or does.
Government intervention was a danger to democracy, until Trump got elected. Now all of the "conservatives" want heavy regulation of powerful social media monsters, while also praising the need to protect the capitalist system, and criticizing "socialism."
Makes zero sense. The party does not even know what they want or what they are fighting for these days.
Sad.
exactly !!!!!!!
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
The GOP no longer has a core set of values or beliefs regarding anything. They flip flop in the wind just like Lindsey Graham. Basically, the position is to agree with anything Trump says or does.
Government intervention was a danger to democracy, until Trump got elected. Now all of the "conservatives" want heavy regulation of powerful social media monsters, while also praising the need to protect the capitalist system, and criticizing "socialism."
Makes zero sense. The party does not even know what they want or what they are fighting for these days.
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours. You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
The mentally retarded Ditzy speaks again.
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours. You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
Ironic that the right has all of their freedoms of speech denied while at the same time the LOSER LEFT cashes government checks every month to keep their internet connections going.
What a messed up world we live in where the losers get paid to be losers.
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Ironic that the right has all of their freedoms of speech denied while at the same time the LOSER LEFT cashes government checks every month to keep their internet connections going.
What a messed up world we live in where the losers get paid to be losers.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours. You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's. The mentally retarded Ditzy speaks again.
Wow that was so witty.
I'm so offended.
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours. You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you? Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's. The mentally retarded Ditzy speaks again.
Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you?
Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
Kelly the retard comparing hundreds of buildings looted and burned down with billions in damage over the course of MONTHS compared to a few broken windows at the Capitol where the cops invited everyone inside, followed by everyone going home in a couple of hours.
You live to lie and spread political disinformation don't you?
Your commitment to spew straight up lies and falsehoods is almost as impressive as Trump's.
Airspace around Reagan International is closed! Disclose.tv ?? on Twitter: "JUST IN - Airspace around Reagan International Airport has been closed. https://t.co/w0sWZ16ysu" / Twitter
It is time for action.
With that said, I will support the government carrying the LEFT through life with continued monthly checks.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Airspace around Reagan International is closed! Disclose.tv ?? on Twitter: "JUST IN - Airspace around Reagan International Airport has been closed. https://t.co/w0sWZ16ysu" / Twitter
It is time for action.
With that said, I will support the government carrying the LEFT through life with continued monthly checks.
1 Incitement The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action" Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech.
2 False statements of fact The Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment: 1/ false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state" 2/ knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws 3/ negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances. 4/ some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation" 5/ Perjury
5 Fighting words Fighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction"
democracy in action !
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
There are "reasonable" restrictions to free speech and Freedom of Expression,
1 Incitement The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or produce such action" Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech.
2 False statements of fact The Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment: 1/ false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state" 2/ knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws 3/ negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances. 4/ some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation" 5/ Perjury
5 Fighting words Fighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction"
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