Until an overwhelming response to this b.s. in the sandtrap happens, this will never cease. The problem is the U.S. has no problem invading countries but not the will to do what needs to be done. If the Russians couldn't conquer Afghanistan with much more extreme measures than the U.S., who would think the U.S. can win with the patty-cake rules of engagement we have? These people are BARBARIANS, we refuse to waterboard a caveman for information because it's considered "torture". Good luck winning with rule written up by the ACLU.
And then our President trades 5 terrorist-cavemen for a deserter. Doomed on every level... It's only a matter of time.
Until an overwhelming response to this b.s. in the sandtrap happens, this will never cease. The problem is the U.S. has no problem invading countries but not the will to do what needs to be done. If the Russians couldn't conquer Afghanistan with much more extreme measures than the U.S., who would think the U.S. can win with the patty-cake rules of engagement we have? These people are BARBARIANS, we refuse to waterboard a caveman for information because it's considered "torture". Good luck winning with rule written up by the ACLU.
And then our President trades 5 terrorist-cavemen for a deserter. Doomed on every level... It's only a matter of time.
Why did the British lose the American Revolution? They were the best trained, best equipped, and most professional army. They were the strongest empire in the world. So, why did they lose?
They lost because of the American spirit at that time. Americans believed in their fight.
Sound familiar?
It's incredible how stupid the average American is these days.
Why did the British lose the American Revolution? They were the best trained, best equipped, and most professional army. They were the strongest empire in the world. So, why did they lose?
They lost because of the American spirit at that time. Americans believed in their fight.
Sound familiar?
It's incredible how stupid the average American is these days.
Bin Laden's 'letter to America' is a look into the mind of a terrorist and why they're fighting. It is estimated that the US has spent $6 trillion on the "war on terror" and there's more terrorists today than there was before the war on terror started. Keep that in mind when you read the letter.
Big corporations control our foreign policy and it is a terrible deal for the average American. The average American is completely clueless to what is going on in the world.
Bin Laden's 'letter to America' is a look into the mind of a terrorist and why they're fighting. It is estimated that the US has spent $6 trillion on the "war on terror" and there's more terrorists today than there was before the war on terror started. Keep that in mind when you read the letter.
Big corporations control our foreign policy and it is a terrible deal for the average American. The average American is completely clueless to what is going on in the world.
Lmao. A civilian. Let me hear your argument, I could go for a good laugh.
Its funny that he doesnt respond to your challenge... instead he calls you a liberal because you stump him... Its like anyone that starts an intelligent fact based dialog is an evil liberal when ironically in my opinion that is not what msnbcliberals or foxnewslemmings do at all...
funny how brainwashed some people are...
You can see examples in this thread and most threads when there is a political subject.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Lmao. A civilian. Let me hear your argument, I could go for a good laugh.
Its funny that he doesnt respond to your challenge... instead he calls you a liberal because you stump him... Its like anyone that starts an intelligent fact based dialog is an evil liberal when ironically in my opinion that is not what msnbcliberals or foxnewslemmings do at all...
funny how brainwashed some people are...
You can see examples in this thread and most threads when there is a political subject.
The US is the best country in the world because people from third world countries swarm to get here? Solid reasoning.
I didn't say that. You did. I said "People from all over the world swarm to come here." I didn't say that's the reason the U.S. is the greatest country. The U.S. is the greatest country because of our way of life. And why you added "third world" I have no idea.
Problem - let's start with the quagmire the last republican president started in the Middle East. Why did the US weaken Assad, kill Saddam and create a breeding ground for terrorism in the Middle East? If your answer is because they're brutal dictators than explain to me why we support King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone to Iraq but I was for it at the time. The reason for the change is not because "Bush Lied". He didn't. It's because these days you have to have an exit strategy and then rebuild the nation. The next time we go to war, and we will, we will either have to stay indefinitely, or when we leave something worse will pop up. Like ISIS.
Problem - moving our dollar off of the gold standard and creating the petrodollar. Do you think it's a coincidence that Iraq took their oil off of the dollar in 99-00, US invaded in 03 and Iraq's oil was put back on the dollar in 04?
I'm no economists but I've always heard it was a mistake to take the dollar off the gold standard. Your conspiracy theory on Iraq and the petro-dollar would make a great documentary on Al-Jazeera.
Problem - banks and corporations control the foreign policy of the US.
That's a generic term from a wealth redistributionist.
Problem - we've been involved in the "war on terrorism" for 12 years now. We've spent trillions of dollars that we don't have and there's more terrorists today than there was 12 years ago.
Unlike you, I do not blame the U.S. for more terrorism. ISIS would still exist. Terrorists today weren't goat farmers yesterday. They would still be terrorists. They don't need a new reason. Their original reason to instill terror to the rest of the world, which is conquest of the non-believers, have served them just fine up to this point.
Killer B:
Sorry about all of the deflection that I'm contributing to. Liberals don't like when radical Islam is called out so they try to blame the U.S. because of social justice. This is one of the liberal tactics I've spoke about so often. This thread may take the cake.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Ha! What problem.. That's a good one.
The US is the best country in the world because people from third world countries swarm to get here? Solid reasoning.
I didn't say that. You did. I said "People from all over the world swarm to come here." I didn't say that's the reason the U.S. is the greatest country. The U.S. is the greatest country because of our way of life. And why you added "third world" I have no idea.
Problem - let's start with the quagmire the last republican president started in the Middle East. Why did the US weaken Assad, kill Saddam and create a breeding ground for terrorism in the Middle East? If your answer is because they're brutal dictators than explain to me why we support King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone to Iraq but I was for it at the time. The reason for the change is not because "Bush Lied". He didn't. It's because these days you have to have an exit strategy and then rebuild the nation. The next time we go to war, and we will, we will either have to stay indefinitely, or when we leave something worse will pop up. Like ISIS.
Problem - moving our dollar off of the gold standard and creating the petrodollar. Do you think it's a coincidence that Iraq took their oil off of the dollar in 99-00, US invaded in 03 and Iraq's oil was put back on the dollar in 04?
I'm no economists but I've always heard it was a mistake to take the dollar off the gold standard. Your conspiracy theory on Iraq and the petro-dollar would make a great documentary on Al-Jazeera.
Problem - banks and corporations control the foreign policy of the US.
That's a generic term from a wealth redistributionist.
Problem - we've been involved in the "war on terrorism" for 12 years now. We've spent trillions of dollars that we don't have and there's more terrorists today than there was 12 years ago.
Unlike you, I do not blame the U.S. for more terrorism. ISIS would still exist. Terrorists today weren't goat farmers yesterday. They would still be terrorists. They don't need a new reason. Their original reason to instill terror to the rest of the world, which is conquest of the non-believers, have served them just fine up to this point.
Killer B:
Sorry about all of the deflection that I'm contributing to. Liberals don't like when radical Islam is called out so they try to blame the U.S. because of social justice. This is one of the liberal tactics I've spoke about so often. This thread may take the cake.
Its funny that he doesnt respond to your challenge... instead he calls you a liberal because you stump him... Its like anyone that starts an intelligent fact based dialog is an evil liberal when ironically in my opinion that is not what msnbcliberals or foxnewslemmings do at all...
funny how brainwashed some people are...
You can see examples in this thread and most threads when there is a political subject.
Unlike you I don't spend every free second surfing Covers.com.
Why do you always comment on the commentors instead of the subject matter? I know where you stand on the "separate bathroom issue for transsexuals" but where do you stand on this issue?
How much would it take for you to go on another 6mo hiatus?
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Its funny that he doesnt respond to your challenge... instead he calls you a liberal because you stump him... Its like anyone that starts an intelligent fact based dialog is an evil liberal when ironically in my opinion that is not what msnbcliberals or foxnewslemmings do at all...
funny how brainwashed some people are...
You can see examples in this thread and most threads when there is a political subject.
Unlike you I don't spend every free second surfing Covers.com.
Why do you always comment on the commentors instead of the subject matter? I know where you stand on the "separate bathroom issue for transsexuals" but where do you stand on this issue?
How much would it take for you to go on another 6mo hiatus?
“By 1975 all of the members of OPEC agreed to sell their oil only in US dollars. Every oil-importing nation in the world started saving their surplus in US dollars so as to be able to buy oil; with such high demand for dollars the currency strengthened. On top of that, many oil-exporting nations like Saudi Arabia spent their US dollar surpluses on Treasury securities, providing a new, deep pool of lenders to support US government spending.”
“Until November 2000, no OPEC country had dared to violate the US dollar-pricing rule, and while the US dollar remained the strongest currency in the world there was also little reason to challenge the system. But in late 2000, France and a few other EU members convinced Saddam Hussein to defy the petrodollar process and sell Iraq's oil for euros, not dollars.”
This isn't a "conspiracy theory", these are facts. Do you think this had anything to do with the US invasion of Iraq in 2003? Yes or no?
“By 1975 all of the members of OPEC agreed to sell their oil only in US dollars. Every oil-importing nation in the world started saving their surplus in US dollars so as to be able to buy oil; with such high demand for dollars the currency strengthened. On top of that, many oil-exporting nations like Saudi Arabia spent their US dollar surpluses on Treasury securities, providing a new, deep pool of lenders to support US government spending.”
“Until November 2000, no OPEC country had dared to violate the US dollar-pricing rule, and while the US dollar remained the strongest currency in the world there was also little reason to challenge the system. But in late 2000, France and a few other EU members convinced Saddam Hussein to defy the petrodollar process and sell Iraq's oil for euros, not dollars.”
This isn't a "conspiracy theory", these are facts. Do you think this had anything to do with the US invasion of Iraq in 2003? Yes or no?
“The system would be challenged a second time, this time by Libya. In February of 2009, Muammar Gaddafi was elected the chairman of the African Union and would continue the effort to create the United States of Africa, which among other things, would include a unified currency, a dinar based on gold. Gaddafi went so far as to suggest that the African nations’ oil trade would be switched from the dollar to this new gold currency.”
How's Muammar Gaddafi doing today?
“The system would be challenged a second time, this time by Libya. In February of 2009, Muammar Gaddafi was elected the chairman of the African Union and would continue the effort to create the United States of Africa, which among other things, would include a unified currency, a dinar based on gold. Gaddafi went so far as to suggest that the African nations’ oil trade would be switched from the dollar to this new gold currency.”
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone to Iraq but I was for it at the time. The reason for the change is not because "Bush Lied". He didn't. It's because these days you have to have an exit strategy and then rebuild the nation. The next time we go to war, and we will, we will either have to stay indefinitely, or when we leave something worse will pop up. Like ISIS.
The reason Bush Sr didn't take over Baghdad and kill Saddam is because they knew taking out Saddam would create a quagmire. What do you mean "these days"? You say it as if our leaders were unaware of what would happen.
"The next time we go to war" - We recently started bombing Iraq and Syria. Are you suggesting that we should stay there indefinitely? If not, what is the exit plan?
Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone to Iraq but I was for it at the time. The reason for the change is not because "Bush Lied". He didn't. It's because these days you have to have an exit strategy and then rebuild the nation. The next time we go to war, and we will, we will either have to stay indefinitely, or when we leave something worse will pop up. Like ISIS.
The reason Bush Sr didn't take over Baghdad and kill Saddam is because they knew taking out Saddam would create a quagmire. What do you mean "these days"? You say it as if our leaders were unaware of what would happen.
"The next time we go to war" - We recently started bombing Iraq and Syria. Are you suggesting that we should stay there indefinitely? If not, what is the exit plan?
Unlike you, I do not blame the U.S. for more terrorism. ISIS would still exist. Terrorists today weren't goat farmers yesterday. They would still be terrorists. They don't need a new reason. Their original reason to instill terror to the rest of the world, which is conquest of the non-believers, have served them just fine up to this point.
All of that is wrong. Think about it and try again.
Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:
Unlike you, I do not blame the U.S. for more terrorism. ISIS would still exist. Terrorists today weren't goat farmers yesterday. They would still be terrorists. They don't need a new reason. Their original reason to instill terror to the rest of the world, which is conquest of the non-believers, have served them just fine up to this point.
All of that is wrong. Think about it and try again.
I didn't say that. You did. I said "People from all over the world swarm to come here." I didn't say that's the reason the U.S. is the greatest country. The U.S. is the greatest country because of our way of life. And why you added "third world" I have no idea.
Ahh, reminds me of the this great clip.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwMlc5A3xo
Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:
I didn't say that. You did. I said "People from all over the world swarm to come here." I didn't say that's the reason the U.S. is the greatest country. The U.S. is the greatest country because of our way of life. And why you added "third world" I have no idea.
So Detox, is the claim that the Muslims are on the warpath because we demanded/negotiated buying oil in U.S. currency? Really? And since there was some resistance from Iran, that's the real reason we took out Saddam (17 U.N. Resolutions were just political cover) and the WMDs were window dressing.
Iran stopped conducting business on the U.S. dollar in 2008, by your logic shouldn't Iran have been invaded by now, like Iraq & Libya?
I keep an open mind on things, and I listen to others opinions. The U.S doesn't do very much right, I can see that, but dealing with the cavemen on earth, I don't think anything we could do either way would get them off their agenda, short of us all bowing down to Allah 5x a day. This is a clash of civilizations, they still live in about the year 800 and we've advanced to 2014. I don't think the oil business has much to do with this...
I tried to read some of Bin Laden's b.s. but I'm sorry, I can't give much credit to the insanity that killing 3,000 people going to work was justified.
So Detox, is the claim that the Muslims are on the warpath because we demanded/negotiated buying oil in U.S. currency? Really? And since there was some resistance from Iran, that's the real reason we took out Saddam (17 U.N. Resolutions were just political cover) and the WMDs were window dressing.
Iran stopped conducting business on the U.S. dollar in 2008, by your logic shouldn't Iran have been invaded by now, like Iraq & Libya?
I keep an open mind on things, and I listen to others opinions. The U.S doesn't do very much right, I can see that, but dealing with the cavemen on earth, I don't think anything we could do either way would get them off their agenda, short of us all bowing down to Allah 5x a day. This is a clash of civilizations, they still live in about the year 800 and we've advanced to 2014. I don't think the oil business has much to do with this...
I tried to read some of Bin Laden's b.s. but I'm sorry, I can't give much credit to the insanity that killing 3,000 people going to work was justified.
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