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Yessss88

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:25 PM ET #76

Smacksmiter - You are truly sick.......

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panabetting

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:32 PM ET #77

don t take heli even if you are rich, take the car.

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davemsh

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:41 PM ET #78

No wonder the Helicopter crashed...There are reports that there was 9 people on the helicopter made for 4 passengers.. an_timeout

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:48 PM ET #79

Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

No wonder the Helicopter crashed...There are reports that there was 9 people on the helicopter made for 4 passengers..

Stop with the fake news. It has a capacity of 12 people, not four.

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mikebdb

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:53 PM ET #80

smacksmitter your a piece of scum.....guys like you will be in hell

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SourSausage

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 5:56 PM ET #81

One of the few actual LEGENDS. RIP brother - you were a true inspiration.

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Mancity

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:16 PM ET #82

Sad day for sports fans. RIP Kobe.

PS We can not say if it was rape or not. We don't know all the facts. Many NBA players have sex on trips. It's common practice with many. It could have been allegations as well.

I means why would a handsome male athlete with all the money in the world rape someone. It doesn't add up.

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aireent777

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:24 PM ET #83

RIP

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gambling-devil

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:33 PM ET #84

Rest in Peace Kobe!

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It is a sad day.

Let's not wager on the NBA for a day in memory of Kobe.

Anyone who talk craps or trying to take advantage of the tragic news is the lowest of the low.

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Macwestie1

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:34 PM ET #85

RIP Kobe & his daughter Gigi, my Condolences to his wife Vanessa & family

Such a huge loss to the Basketball community

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BigNiner

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:36 PM ET #86

Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

Couldn't happen to a nicer rapist...scum of the earth...money was the only thing that got him out of that...No RIP from me...burn baby burn...Karma is a biAtch...

I mean, I’m not sure how you can call this karma when the allegations were 17 years ago? Kind of a cop out to call it karma when it was 100% certain he was going to die at some point. Karma doesn’t decide to bide it’s time for 17 years and the rear it’s head. 17 years? I’d call that bad luck. Would you have called it karma if he died at 105 in his sleep? Seems like a win-win for you. Unless, of course, Kobe was the first human on Earth to live forever. The odds were on your side.

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begginerboy

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:43 PM ET #87

Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

I mean, I’m not sure how you can call this karma when the allegations were 17 years ago? Kind of a cop out to call it karma when it was 100% certain he was going to die at some point. Karma doesn’t decide to bide it’s time for 17 years and the rear it’s head. 17 years? I’d call that bad luck. Would you have called it karma if he died at 105 in his sleep? Seems like a win-win for you. Unless, of course, Kobe was the first human on Earth to live forever. The odds were on your side.

I gotta hand it to you. Nice post.

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Mancity

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 6:45 PM ET #88

Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

I mean, I’m not sure how you can call this karma when the allegations were 17 years ago? Kind of a cop out to call it karma when it was 100% certain he was going to die at some point. Karma doesn’t decide to bide it’s time for 17 years and the rear it’s head. 17 years? I’d call that bad luck. Would you have called it karma if he died at 105 in his sleep? Seems like a win-win for you. Unless, of course, Kobe was the first human on Earth to live forever. The odds were on your side.

Kobe did die very, very young. I think Smack is looking at it from that perspective.

I agree with Smack, it's horrible what he did if it's true. I just don't have all the facts. And looking at it from what we know. I think it's all just allegations.

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BigNiner

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:00 PM ET #89

Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

I mean, I’m not sure how you can call this karma when the allegations were 17 years ago? Kind of a cop out to call it karma when it was 100% certain he was going to die at some point. Karma doesn’t decide to bide it’s time for 17 years and the rear it’s head. 17 years? I’d call that bad luck. Would you have called it karma if he died at 105 in his sleep? Seems like a win-win for you. Unless, of course, Kobe was the first human on Earth to live forever. The odds were on your side.

Kobe did die very, very young. I think Smack is looking at it from that perspective. I agree with Smack, it's horrible what he did if it's true. I just don't have all the facts. And looking at it from what we know. I think it's all just allegations.

Yeah...karma...letting him enjoy those 17 great years before striking....pretty generous window for a definition. I am going to start a formal petition to make the definition more discrete, so this kind of loose interpretation doesn’t continue...

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Bigdoubleplay

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:01 PM ET #90

Helicopters are definitely riskier than planes. I've heard of many successful people in other sectors who after mastering said sector and gaining financial wealth figure they will tackle a new endeavor piloting a helicopter and or Cessna. In their previous fields confidence even arrogance propelled them. The thing is when flying you need the exact opposite you need to be humble and put your pride to the side. They figure the risks they took in their previous fields to make them millions will work in the air. Mother nature doesn't care what you did previously. I've heard countless stories of pilots ignoring weather reports and taking unjustified risks to fly only to end tragically. Again I have no idea if Kobe was the pilot I've heard it was very foggy again only hearsay at this point. I'm sure we will find out more about what caused the crash in the coming days. I feel bad for his young daughter and the other people on the flight.

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:02 PM ET #91

Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

Quote Originally Posted by SirBruce:

It's a lost life of one of the greatest in his fields. A tragic loss. I have a lost respect as well. To take a single unproven negative event of a person's life and bring it up at his death... WTF!!!

A single PROVEN event that would have landed any regular Joe without millions of dollars in jail for the rest of his life...and make no mistake...it was proven...he bought his way out of it by paying off the victim and then putting a 2 million dollar brand new diamond ring on his wife's finger...Of course, it is absolutely ridiculous to hold rape against such a great basketball player...And nobody counts adultery anymore...it's a "victimless crime"...a terrible misnomer in it's own right...I'm sure it was the only time it ever happened...

Well not quite PROVEN.. But implied.. lets looked at what was proven after the incident .. None of the following in question by either party.. None of which makes her a liar but PROVEN facts real proven facts.. To play devils advocate.. Accuser went back to the room for a second time AFTER clocking out then incident alleged to happen.. PROVEN through semen test she had sex with at least two other men besides Kobe in the previous 24 hrs.. hmm.. not sex shy.. She herself said she kissed Kobe for over 5 minutes and it was consensual.. In college the past year before the Kobe ordeal suicide watch was twice called to her dorm room by her roommate after suicide by pill was threatened .. not a reason to doubt her but unstable maybe.. In all that time after that accusation not ONE other woman ever came out of the woodwork to accuse kobe of likewise actions ...ie Billl Crosby or Eppy.. Once again not proof of anything but makes you go hmm.. Truth may lie somewhere in between but far from proof either way..

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ThrowDemDarts

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:02 PM ET #92

RIP. Sad day.

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casheasy

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:11 PM ET #93

Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

Couldn't happen to a nicer rapist...scum of the earth...money was the only thing that got him out of that...No RIP from me...burn baby burn...Karma is a biAtch...

He didn't rape that lying chick. Everyone knew that about two days after her bogus allegation. Do you get your news from CNN?

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Macwestie1

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:19 PM ET #94

Its amazing how this Difficult Tragedy occurred today with Kobes Death & all we can talk about his Koby's past occurrence with that woman unf*ckinbelievable

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smacksmiter

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2020 - 7:44 PM ET #95

Many of you gentlemen display the kind of naivete and Pollyanna syndrome that surprises even me...as hardened as I am...

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To say that because he was a narcissistic, handsome,rich basketball player he couldn't rape a hotel maid...?...

To any of you who don't have the facts, Wikipedia is right at your fingertips...but I actually was alive and paid attention at the time...to say "You weren't there so you don't know" is the kind of stupid that nobody can fix...

People can gain knowledge by studying about events and they can have ironclad factual knowledge even if they were not personally at the event...it is called "the weight of evidence" and the weight of evidence in this case is incontrovertible....

Too lazy to get the link?...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case

It's all right here laid out in black and white...no pun intended...he initially denied he had sex with her...then changed his mind when confronted with evidence and said it was consensual...he was charged and would have gone to trial if the victim had decided to testify...which she decided to NOT do ONLY after getting a settlement from Bryant...

Do you understand that the word "settlement" means MONEY?...

He was guilty as hell...everything points to it...and if he had gone to trial he would have been convicted and spent many years in prison...but...he had millions of dollars...problem solved...

Now none of this imputes to his daughter...his friends and anyone else killed in this tragedy...but there are consequences for actions and some believe that what you sow you reap...collateral damage happens in life...another sad but true story...

Nobody is perfect...everyone makes mistakes...some pay for theirs sooner...some pay later...but everybody eventually pays...

I personally remember how cocky and condescending he was..unremorseful...I remember thinking how it was amazing that he could get away with it just by throwing money at it...it severely damaged any sensibility of justice and confidence in our justice system...this has been confirmed over and over since then...if you have money, you can buy your way out of justice...

I have great sympathy for sympathetic figures...people can get second chances...they can show remorse...they can ask for forgiveness...and they can get it...as far as what I know...Bryant never did...as a matter of fact, he went the other direction and adopted a "F*ck you" attitude to anyone who tried to interview him about it...

If you REALLY want to know the truth...if you can handle the truth...read this article written in 2005 which has a quote in it that comes as close as Bryant ever did to admitting the crime...

https://thinkprogress.org/what-to-do-with-kobe-bryant-a9a77dc039ec/

The quote, which happened after the settlement was this...

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
This man does not deserve respect, accolades or worship...

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