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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 2:35 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.

     

    this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.

     

    this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 2:39 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.   this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.

    Ignore vanzack, his 20 years of effort on covers was for nothing as most realized he is a fraud. He is hanging on to whatever is left to remind folks of himself, even if it does involve race baiting. an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.   this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.

    Ignore vanzack, his 20 years of effort on covers was for nothing as most realized he is a fraud. He is hanging on to whatever is left to remind folks of himself, even if it does involve race baiting. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 2:45 PM ET #78

    @BIGDTITLE

     Spot on..

     

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    @BIGDTITLE

     Spot on..

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 2:47 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Incel.....never heard that word B4... DU4L.....you're coming to BMore in the postseason...

    The Ravens are definitely not the team I want to see my BILLS play in January...I'd probably put some good money on the Ravens if they did..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Incel.....never heard that word B4... DU4L.....you're coming to BMore in the postseason...

    The Ravens are definitely not the team I want to see my BILLS play in January...I'd probably put some good money on the Ravens if they did..

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 2:50 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Tymer:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Reading this thread should help new posters understand why covers is barely a shell of its former self ... Bunch of racist , broke incels You are the broke lefty racist. Spending 20 years on this forum 20 hours a day and profiting a measly 10 grand as being your highest in a month shows how little you value your life. Good luck wagering on high school ball, tie at half/win props. When you’re 70 and still broke, look back and ask yourself if 50 years spent on this garbage was worth it. You’ll probably say ‘yes’ at the same time as accusing everyone around you as being racist.

     

    I don't read your old idiotic racist incel thoughts..please stay out of my threads..I'll be busy winning in them....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Tymer:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Reading this thread should help new posters understand why covers is barely a shell of its former self ... Bunch of racist , broke incels You are the broke lefty racist. Spending 20 years on this forum 20 hours a day and profiting a measly 10 grand as being your highest in a month shows how little you value your life. Good luck wagering on high school ball, tie at half/win props. When you’re 70 and still broke, look back and ask yourself if 50 years spent on this garbage was worth it. You’ll probably say ‘yes’ at the same time as accusing everyone around you as being racist.

     

    I don't read your old idiotic racist incel thoughts..please stay out of my threads..I'll be busy winning in them....

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 3:03 PM ET #81

    I guess I'm a racist because when Cowherd is over, and Speak for Yourself comes on I immediately change the channel because its Wiley and Acho  an_popcorn

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    I guess I'm a racist because when Cowherd is over, and Speak for Yourself comes on I immediately change the channel because its Wiley and Acho  an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 3:17 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Tymer: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Reading this thread should help new posters understand why covers is barely a shell of its former self ... Bunch of racist , broke incels You are the broke lefty racist. Spending 20 years on this forum 20 hours a day and profiting a measly 10 grand as being your highest in a month shows how little you value your life. Good luck wagering on high school ball, tie at half/win props. When you’re 70 and still broke, look back and ask yourself if 50 years spent on this garbage was worth it. You’ll probably say ‘yes’ at the same time as accusing everyone around you as being racist.   I don't read your old idiotic racist incel thoughts..please stay out of my threads..I'll be busy winning in them....

    Keep lying to yourself. You’ve got a serious gambling problem and whatever bets you win based on your knowledge, you lose threefold due to your gambling degeneracy. an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Tymer: Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Reading this thread should help new posters understand why covers is barely a shell of its former self ... Bunch of racist , broke incels You are the broke lefty racist. Spending 20 years on this forum 20 hours a day and profiting a measly 10 grand as being your highest in a month shows how little you value your life. Good luck wagering on high school ball, tie at half/win props. When you’re 70 and still broke, look back and ask yourself if 50 years spent on this garbage was worth it. You’ll probably say ‘yes’ at the same time as accusing everyone around you as being racist.   I don't read your old idiotic racist incel thoughts..please stay out of my threads..I'll be busy winning in them....

    Keep lying to yourself. You’ve got a serious gambling problem and whatever bets you win based on your knowledge, you lose threefold due to your gambling degeneracy. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 3:51 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.   this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.
    Completely agree. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: @Polar_Bear  Your post is full of racist undertones that you think are normal.   this post is hilarious to me.  I read that and didn't "pick out" a single racial undertone and yet you clearly have and are pointing it out.  typical race baiting behavior trying to point out race where there is none.  its 2021 and that behavior is actually normal now so I guess, carry on.
    Completely agree. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 4:52 PM ET #84

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     Nope ..As you can see by my posts I stick to sports where I am consistently turning a profit...Once again MAC football is the go to ..Wish they played another 12 games an_roll_laugh

     

    Good luck Fam ..Sweep your board 

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     Nope ..As you can see by my posts I stick to sports where I am consistently turning a profit...Once again MAC football is the go to ..Wish they played another 12 games an_roll_laugh

     

    Good luck Fam ..Sweep your board 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 4:53 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    I guess I'm a racist because when Cowherd is over, and Speak for Yourself comes on I immediately change the channel because its Wiley and Acho

    Those 2 are horrible...I can't listen to 10 seconds of 99% of the sports talking heads now ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    I guess I'm a racist because when Cowherd is over, and Speak for Yourself comes on I immediately change the channel because its Wiley and Acho

    Those 2 are horrible...I can't listen to 10 seconds of 99% of the sports talking heads now ...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 5:27 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Because he doesn't talk like a white guy. Thats it.

    He doesn't even talk like a black guy with average intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Because he doesn't talk like a white guy. Thats it.

    He doesn't even talk like a black guy with average intelligence.

     
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    The average Wonderlic score is 20. This is a fair assessment test of intelligence. It is not fully comprehensive, of course, but decent enough.
    Everyone knows McInally had the only perfect score of 50.
    The average QB score is 26.
    Fitzpatrick scored a 48. He was a Harvard graduate, so a good idea of what should be accepted as highly intelligent.
    Wentz, and Alex Smith scored a 40, Eli a 39, Kaepernick a 38, Luck a 37. These are generally seen as very intelligent QBs.
    Ryan scored a 32, Rivers a 31, Elway a 29, Cutler a 26. These are generally seen as above average intelligent QBs.
    Favre scored a 22, Newton a 21, Carr a 20, Vick a 20. These are seen as marginally intelligent.
    Feely a 19, Testaverde a 17, Bradshaw a 16, Shuler a 16, Young a 15, Mcnair a 15.
    These are seen as below average in intelligence.
    Jeff George a 10, Vince Evans an 8, Pryor a 7.
    These are seen as far below average in intelligence.

    With all of those as a reference point, Lamar Jackson scored a 13. With the Wonderlic as a decently reliable guide, Jackson is far, far below what is considered, even average, intelligent for a QB.

    Of course, this is not a total guide for determining the ability of an NFL player or, even, a QB.

    There are many black players that score high on the Wonderlic, including QBs.
    For example, Calvin Johnson scored a 41, Demaryius Thomas a 34, Ben Watson a 48, Elliot a 32, Bruce Eugene a 41, Akili Smith a 37, Jonathan Ogden a 35.
    So, many examples of intelligent black NFL players.
    So, of course you can have an idea that Lamar Jackson is not intelligent. You can listen to some of his interviews and see his Wonderlic score. You can judge his intelligence, to certain extent, the same way you judge most regular folks. How they talk and present themselves. The way he did in college classes and what his degree was or was not in, etc.
    That is not to take away from his athletic talent a all. He is very talented. Where his lack of intelligence might come into play is learning to read defenses and fix mistakes and take the hitch out of his throwin motions, etc. Teams will baffle lesser intelligent players.
    You see this with players that rely mostly on mobility. As they age they have to become more adept at reading defenses, etc. For example, Cunnigham was an example of this. To an extent McNair and even Vick made adjustments.

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    The average Wonderlic score is 20. This is a fair assessment test of intelligence. It is not fully comprehensive, of course, but decent enough.
    Everyone knows McInally had the only perfect score of 50.
    The average QB score is 26.
    Fitzpatrick scored a 48. He was a Harvard graduate, so a good idea of what should be accepted as highly intelligent.
    Wentz, and Alex Smith scored a 40, Eli a 39, Kaepernick a 38, Luck a 37. These are generally seen as very intelligent QBs.
    Ryan scored a 32, Rivers a 31, Elway a 29, Cutler a 26. These are generally seen as above average intelligent QBs.
    Favre scored a 22, Newton a 21, Carr a 20, Vick a 20. These are seen as marginally intelligent.
    Feely a 19, Testaverde a 17, Bradshaw a 16, Shuler a 16, Young a 15, Mcnair a 15.
    These are seen as below average in intelligence.
    Jeff George a 10, Vince Evans an 8, Pryor a 7.
    These are seen as far below average in intelligence.

    With all of those as a reference point, Lamar Jackson scored a 13. With the Wonderlic as a decently reliable guide, Jackson is far, far below what is considered, even average, intelligent for a QB.

    Of course, this is not a total guide for determining the ability of an NFL player or, even, a QB.

    There are many black players that score high on the Wonderlic, including QBs.
    For example, Calvin Johnson scored a 41, Demaryius Thomas a 34, Ben Watson a 48, Elliot a 32, Bruce Eugene a 41, Akili Smith a 37, Jonathan Ogden a 35.
    So, many examples of intelligent black NFL players.
    So, of course you can have an idea that Lamar Jackson is not intelligent. You can listen to some of his interviews and see his Wonderlic score. You can judge his intelligence, to certain extent, the same way you judge most regular folks. How they talk and present themselves. The way he did in college classes and what his degree was or was not in, etc.
    That is not to take away from his athletic talent a all. He is very talented. Where his lack of intelligence might come into play is learning to read defenses and fix mistakes and take the hitch out of his throwin motions, etc. Teams will baffle lesser intelligent players.
    You see this with players that rely mostly on mobility. As they age they have to become more adept at reading defenses, etc. For example, Cunnigham was an example of this. To an extent McNair and even Vick made adjustments.

     
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    Sometimes, it is perception of course.  But there is a 'push' or stepping lightly with black players.  It simply is what it is.

    But one player that always gets me is Sherman.  Because he went to Stanford but can act like a nut -- folks want to make him out to be so intelligent.  He scored a 24.  Which is decent.

    But if he were white, folks would not be 'considering' him to be so intelligent.

    There are plenty of other intelligent NFL guys, white or black, to use as examples of intelligence.

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    Sometimes, it is perception of course.  But there is a 'push' or stepping lightly with black players.  It simply is what it is.

    But one player that always gets me is Sherman.  Because he went to Stanford but can act like a nut -- folks want to make him out to be so intelligent.  He scored a 24.  Which is decent.

    But if he were white, folks would not be 'considering' him to be so intelligent.

    There are plenty of other intelligent NFL guys, white or black, to use as examples of intelligence.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 6:07 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    As a huge Ravens fan....The Hate for the Ravens is phucked up...A buddy of mine said your teams defense is just like your jerseys.....I was dude stop being  a HATER.....Is Jackson going to be on Jeopardy...No...Last night was the worst he ever played. But from HS to the Ville to the NFL   his teams have won 75 % of his starts...Book it...

    This is the bottom line

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    As a huge Ravens fan....The Hate for the Ravens is phucked up...A buddy of mine said your teams defense is just like your jerseys.....I was dude stop being  a HATER.....Is Jackson going to be on Jeopardy...No...Last night was the worst he ever played. But from HS to the Ville to the NFL   his teams have won 75 % of his starts...Book it...

    This is the bottom line

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 6:14 PM ET #90

    @Raiders22

     Thank you .....peace_5

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     Thank you .....peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 6:17 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:  A SINGLE WHITE PERSON CALLED LOW IQ ON THIS WHOLE SITE.  MILLIONS OF POSTS.  FIND ME ONE. Still waiting. bigred84. White male. Low IQ

     

    an_shake  That's an insult to low IQ white males!

    Keep at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:  A SINGLE WHITE PERSON CALLED LOW IQ ON THIS WHOLE SITE.  MILLIONS OF POSTS.  FIND ME ONE. Still waiting. bigred84. White male. Low IQ

     

    an_shake  That's an insult to low IQ white males!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 6:26 PM ET #92

    So who will win a Superbowl first. Lamar or Baker? A Wonderlic test means nothing. You can have the best player at QB but it takes an entire team to win it all. 

    Bradshaw at 16 = 4 trophys. Play,s etc can be taught. Talent and adaptation to the speed of the NFL game cannot be taught. So many great college players could not adapt to the speed of the NFL. 

    Raiders22 fantastic write up. You put a lot of time and effort in and you are a great poster.

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    So who will win a Superbowl first. Lamar or Baker? A Wonderlic test means nothing. You can have the best player at QB but it takes an entire team to win it all. 

    Bradshaw at 16 = 4 trophys. Play,s etc can be taught. Talent and adaptation to the speed of the NFL game cannot be taught. So many great college players could not adapt to the speed of the NFL. 

    Raiders22 fantastic write up. You put a lot of time and effort in and you are a great poster.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 6:27 PM ET #93

    @Cranky_Hank

     Dude stop drinking....an_drunksick

    More aliases then Sybil had personalities....an_wink

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     Dude stop drinking....an_drunksick

    More aliases then Sybil had personalities....an_wink

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 7:28 PM ET #94

    an_laugh Vanzack: covers fraud for 20 years and counting.

    an_laughdoubleup I’m not Asian but I have my Asian lover’s as my avatar. Also a closet racist.

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    an_laugh Vanzack: covers fraud for 20 years and counting.

    an_laughdoubleup I’m not Asian but I have my Asian lover’s as my avatar. Also a closet racist.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 7:33 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    @Cranky_Hank  Dude stop drinking.... More aliases then Sybil had personalities....

    Says the alias an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    @Cranky_Hank  Dude stop drinking.... More aliases then Sybil had personalities....

    Says the alias an_roll_laugh

     
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    @Hugh_Jorgan

     Now that is fucking hilarious.

     

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     Now that is fucking hilarious.

     

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 7:36 PM ET #97

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 7:36 PM ET #98

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     He's you vegetable boy.....an_wink

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     He's you vegetable boy.....an_wink

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 8:12 PM ET #99

    Hey old_whiner i don't see the threads where you are making all your fantastic picks.As a matter of fact I don't see where you have made any picks.All your 390 posts in the 2 months you have been on here are in other people's threads.At least these other guys try and add or help the forum make decent selections,all you do is complain about other people's selections,I can't believe what a little **ssy you are.

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    Hey old_whiner i don't see the threads where you are making all your fantastic picks.As a matter of fact I don't see where you have made any picks.All your 390 posts in the 2 months you have been on here are in other people's threads.At least these other guys try and add or help the forum make decent selections,all you do is complain about other people's selections,I can't believe what a little **ssy you are.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2021 - 8:13 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Hey old_whiner i don't see the threads where you are making all your fantastic picks.As a matter of fact I don't see where you have made any picks.All your 390 posts in the 2 months you have been on here are in other people's threads.At least these other guys try and add or help the forum make decent selections,all you do is complain about other people's selections,I can't believe what a little **ssy you are.

    Who’s alias are you, vanzack or doubleup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Hey old_whiner i don't see the threads where you are making all your fantastic picks.As a matter of fact I don't see where you have made any picks.All your 390 posts in the 2 months you have been on here are in other people's threads.At least these other guys try and add or help the forum make decent selections,all you do is complain about other people's selections,I can't believe what a little **ssy you are.

    Who’s alias are you, vanzack or doubleup?

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