Week 6 Monday Night Special New York Giants -8.5 at Cleveland Browns I’m taking Cleveland and the points here. The reason I can say that easily, because I feel that the Browns are going to win this game outright. I’m crazy right? Well let’s break down this game in great detail. First things first these 2 teams are not that far apart. What have the Giants done to garner the notion that they can lay 8.5 points on the road against a team that plays tough at home on a Monday nighter. They beat Washington in week 1, kudos to them, but that Washington team was not in sync on that night. Besides that game they beat Seattle, St. Louis, and Cincinnati. 3 of the bottom 8 worse teams in the league. On the other hand Cleveland has been riddled with injuries and have had some stiff competition. Once again I stress these 2 teams are not that far apart. The Giants are in the familiar position in which they are due to have a letdown game. We have all seen it before, The Chicago-Arizona game, Dallas-Buffalo, New England-Baltimore. This game reeks of the same stench. On the other side of the ball you take a team like Cleveland. For the first time in a decade they finally had some legitimate optimism heading into the season. They are now healthier than ever due to a bye week and are going to be playing in a rare Monday Night game. The ENTIRE season rests on this game for them. Lose and they drop to 1-4 and most likely kill any hopes of getting into the playoffs. Win and they can ride that momentum into a playoff appearance. They will be in front of their Crowd which is going to be electric on Monday, and there are a few people who are playing for their jobs on Monday. (Crennel, Anderson) Now let’s get into the game. New York Giants Offense Vs. Cleveland Browns Defense On the offensive side of the ball the New York Giants are going to look to do much of what they’ve done all year. They are going to look to pound Brandon Jacobs and air it out with Eli Manning. 2 things that are going to help Cleveland out here is the fact that they are getting their leader back in Willie McGinnest. He may not be the player he once was, but he is still very valuable in the run game and his presence alone should elevate everybody elses game around him. In the passing game, there needs to be 2 major factors in stopping Eli Manning. Romeo Crennel and the defense have had 2 weeks to scheme for Eli Manning, and that is a lot of time. The Browns are going to send all sorts of blitz packages and different zone coverages in this game. You have to believe that with the 2 weeks to plan for it, they would be effective on defense. The other key is the Crowd. They need to get loud, draw some false-starts, and make it so Eli can’t audible or go into the 2 minute offense. If Cleveland can do all those things than they should have success in this game.
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Week 6 Monday Night Special New York Giants -8.5 at Cleveland Browns I’m taking Cleveland and the points here. The reason I can say that easily, because I feel that the Browns are going to win this game outright. I’m crazy right? Well let’s break down this game in great detail. First things first these 2 teams are not that far apart. What have the Giants done to garner the notion that they can lay 8.5 points on the road against a team that plays tough at home on a Monday nighter. They beat Washington in week 1, kudos to them, but that Washington team was not in sync on that night. Besides that game they beat Seattle, St. Louis, and Cincinnati. 3 of the bottom 8 worse teams in the league. On the other hand Cleveland has been riddled with injuries and have had some stiff competition. Once again I stress these 2 teams are not that far apart. The Giants are in the familiar position in which they are due to have a letdown game. We have all seen it before, The Chicago-Arizona game, Dallas-Buffalo, New England-Baltimore. This game reeks of the same stench. On the other side of the ball you take a team like Cleveland. For the first time in a decade they finally had some legitimate optimism heading into the season. They are now healthier than ever due to a bye week and are going to be playing in a rare Monday Night game. The ENTIRE season rests on this game for them. Lose and they drop to 1-4 and most likely kill any hopes of getting into the playoffs. Win and they can ride that momentum into a playoff appearance. They will be in front of their Crowd which is going to be electric on Monday, and there are a few people who are playing for their jobs on Monday. (Crennel, Anderson) Now let’s get into the game. New York Giants Offense Vs. Cleveland Browns Defense On the offensive side of the ball the New York Giants are going to look to do much of what they’ve done all year. They are going to look to pound Brandon Jacobs and air it out with Eli Manning. 2 things that are going to help Cleveland out here is the fact that they are getting their leader back in Willie McGinnest. He may not be the player he once was, but he is still very valuable in the run game and his presence alone should elevate everybody elses game around him. In the passing game, there needs to be 2 major factors in stopping Eli Manning. Romeo Crennel and the defense have had 2 weeks to scheme for Eli Manning, and that is a lot of time. The Browns are going to send all sorts of blitz packages and different zone coverages in this game. You have to believe that with the 2 weeks to plan for it, they would be effective on defense. The other key is the Crowd. They need to get loud, draw some false-starts, and make it so Eli can’t audible or go into the 2 minute offense. If Cleveland can do all those things than they should have success in this game.
Cleveland Browns Offense Vs. New York Giants Health is finally something that Cleveland now has on their offense. They are getting 3 major players back in this offense. These 2 offenses are similar, in the fact that Cleveland will be looking to pound the ball with their horse Jamal Lewis, and then air it out with Derek Anderson. As far as running the ball goes, Cleveland is getting back 2 major players that are going to allow for Jamal Lewis to do that, and that is the return of Eric Steinbach and Ryan Tucker. Antonio Pierce also may not play, and even if he does will be banged up, so I expect Cleveland to have success here. In the passing game, the Browns are getting Stallworth back, and Derek Anderson will finally have more time in the pocket now that is 2 OL are back. Now I know the talk has been about Kellen Winslow and if he’s going to play or not, I have a feeling that this may be some old Patriots tactics that Crennell is using. This game is too big of a game for him to miss. The biggest key is this. Edwards, Stallworth, Winslow will be covered by Ross, Webster, and Madison. Now they will most likely be sticking Aaron Ross on Braylon Edwards. Braylon is going to expose the height advantage and abuse Ross all day on Monday. On the other match-up Webster doesn’t have the speed to keep up with Stallworth and he’s going to get beat deep at least once. Especially if the Giants stack the box and Cleveland draws up a play-action. And there is nobody on the Giants roster that is going to be able to cover Winslow if he plays. So I love Cleveland in this spot over here. Special Teams I like both teams on the return game, as both Bradshaw and Cribbs are dangerous. I will give the advantage to Cleveland in the field goal game, because I don’t feel that John Carney will be able to kick the 45+ yarders and that will be a problem for New York. Wildcards Turnovers and Penalties. As long as these 2 things even out for both teams than I feel the Browns are going to be in a position to win. So all the reasons above are why I feel that the Browns are a lock to cover, and will win this game outright. Mac Picks: Cleveland +8.5
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Cleveland Browns Offense Vs. New York Giants Health is finally something that Cleveland now has on their offense. They are getting 3 major players back in this offense. These 2 offenses are similar, in the fact that Cleveland will be looking to pound the ball with their horse Jamal Lewis, and then air it out with Derek Anderson. As far as running the ball goes, Cleveland is getting back 2 major players that are going to allow for Jamal Lewis to do that, and that is the return of Eric Steinbach and Ryan Tucker. Antonio Pierce also may not play, and even if he does will be banged up, so I expect Cleveland to have success here. In the passing game, the Browns are getting Stallworth back, and Derek Anderson will finally have more time in the pocket now that is 2 OL are back. Now I know the talk has been about Kellen Winslow and if he’s going to play or not, I have a feeling that this may be some old Patriots tactics that Crennell is using. This game is too big of a game for him to miss. The biggest key is this. Edwards, Stallworth, Winslow will be covered by Ross, Webster, and Madison. Now they will most likely be sticking Aaron Ross on Braylon Edwards. Braylon is going to expose the height advantage and abuse Ross all day on Monday. On the other match-up Webster doesn’t have the speed to keep up with Stallworth and he’s going to get beat deep at least once. Especially if the Giants stack the box and Cleveland draws up a play-action. And there is nobody on the Giants roster that is going to be able to cover Winslow if he plays. So I love Cleveland in this spot over here. Special Teams I like both teams on the return game, as both Bradshaw and Cribbs are dangerous. I will give the advantage to Cleveland in the field goal game, because I don’t feel that John Carney will be able to kick the 45+ yarders and that will be a problem for New York. Wildcards Turnovers and Penalties. As long as these 2 things even out for both teams than I feel the Browns are going to be in a position to win. So all the reasons above are why I feel that the Browns are a lock to cover, and will win this game outright. Mac Picks: Cleveland +8.5
Suggestion: Lay 3 times as much on the spead, but take the Money line as well
outside of guys coming back off injury, I see nothing different in this thread than the last one.
i do think CLE + the pts is a nice play, however its going to be very hard for them to win. Could the Giants let down? Sure maybe, but again, most of your reasoning seems to come from your heart rather than facts.
How is Anderson going to have a lot of time against that Giants pass rush??? I understand the giants have played some weaker opponents, but we've seen what this front 4 can do.
I dont think this is Crennel pulling a bellicheat and saying Winslow isnt bad? What makes you think that? once again, talking with your heart. The guy is in the hospital...I think that says enough...
Cleveland is averaging 11.5 pts a game..and its not like they are going up against a shoddy defense...They scored 10 pts at home against Dallas...thats sad, cause their defense can be exposed.
Hey, maybe you are right, but I just dont think its for the right reasons. Just seems like you are "feeling" this one...sometimes thats the right call,...but I just dont see the substance in your post to back it up...
GL though
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outside of guys coming back off injury, I see nothing different in this thread than the last one.
i do think CLE + the pts is a nice play, however its going to be very hard for them to win. Could the Giants let down? Sure maybe, but again, most of your reasoning seems to come from your heart rather than facts.
How is Anderson going to have a lot of time against that Giants pass rush??? I understand the giants have played some weaker opponents, but we've seen what this front 4 can do.
I dont think this is Crennel pulling a bellicheat and saying Winslow isnt bad? What makes you think that? once again, talking with your heart. The guy is in the hospital...I think that says enough...
Cleveland is averaging 11.5 pts a game..and its not like they are going up against a shoddy defense...They scored 10 pts at home against Dallas...thats sad, cause their defense can be exposed.
Hey, maybe you are right, but I just dont think its for the right reasons. Just seems like you are "feeling" this one...sometimes thats the right call,...but I just dont see the substance in your post to back it up...
Just seems like you are saying things such as "The ENTIRE season rests on this game for them. Lose and they drop to 1-4 and most likely kill any hopes of getting into the playoffs."
Teams lose all the time when its a must win...
GL on your play like I said, but Im not too sure you have given me a good reason to see CLE wins this game. IF the Giants let down, they do...but you are talking with your heart here...
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Just seems like you are saying things such as "The ENTIRE season rests on this game for them. Lose and they drop to 1-4 and most likely kill any hopes of getting into the playoffs."
Teams lose all the time when its a must win...
GL on your play like I said, but Im not too sure you have given me a good reason to see CLE wins this game. IF the Giants let down, they do...but you are talking with your heart here...
Also, CLE has little to no shot of making the playoffs, have you seen their schedule?
Their next 5 are, @Was, @Jax, Balt, Denver, @Buffalo...the are LUCKY to go 2-3 here but most likely 1-4 or even 0-5....there season was toast when they lost to Balt...that was their MUST win
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Also, CLE has little to no shot of making the playoffs, have you seen their schedule?
Their next 5 are, @Was, @Jax, Balt, Denver, @Buffalo...the are LUCKY to go 2-3 here but most likely 1-4 or even 0-5....there season was toast when they lost to Balt...that was their MUST win
Derek Anderson wil have more time in the pocket than the last 4 weeks because he's getting his STARTING LG and STARTING RT back for this game. PLUS STALLWORTH is BACK so the Safeties have to play deep, giving A.) Jamal Lewis a real opportunity to tear on the ground, and B Opening up Edwards in the short passing game.
I NEVER bet with my heart.
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What do you mean no facts?
Derek Anderson wil have more time in the pocket than the last 4 weeks because he's getting his STARTING LG and STARTING RT back for this game. PLUS STALLWORTH is BACK so the Safeties have to play deep, giving A.) Jamal Lewis a real opportunity to tear on the ground, and B Opening up Edwards in the short passing game.
Derek Anderson wil have more time in the pocket than the last 4 weeks because he's getting his STARTING LG and STARTING RT back for this game. PLUS STALLWORTH is BACK so the Safeties have to play deep, giving A.) Jamal Lewis a real opportunity to tear on the ground, and B Opening up Edwards in the short passing game.
I NEVER bet with my heart.
Jamal Lewis is a mediocre running back. Its not as if LT or Westbrook is in their backfield, a lot less scary. Anderson has been inaccurate in a lot of his passes. im not sold on CLE's line being a dominant force anyways.
What i really meant by facts was something like "Player X runs routes that can stupify the Giants secondary.."..or good matchups...Winslow would be one, but I dont know if he is playing or not.
Maybe facts was not the best choice of words, but that is what I meant.
GL sir
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Quote Originally Posted by Mac_Handicapper:
What do you mean no facts?
Derek Anderson wil have more time in the pocket than the last 4 weeks because he's getting his STARTING LG and STARTING RT back for this game. PLUS STALLWORTH is BACK so the Safeties have to play deep, giving A.) Jamal Lewis a real opportunity to tear on the ground, and B Opening up Edwards in the short passing game.
I NEVER bet with my heart.
Jamal Lewis is a mediocre running back. Its not as if LT or Westbrook is in their backfield, a lot less scary. Anderson has been inaccurate in a lot of his passes. im not sold on CLE's line being a dominant force anyways.
What i really meant by facts was something like "Player X runs routes that can stupify the Giants secondary.."..or good matchups...Winslow would be one, but I dont know if he is playing or not.
Maybe facts was not the best choice of words, but that is what I meant.
What has Cleveland done this year? Beat the Bengals.
With all DUE respect. They were hurt all year. The roster they are goign to field this week, is the healthiest they've been all year. And this weeks game will be a TRUE indicator on how good the Cleveland Browns really are.
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Quote Originally Posted by tuxman:
What has Cleveland done this year? Beat the Bengals.
With all DUE respect. They were hurt all year. The roster they are goign to field this week, is the healthiest they've been all year. And this weeks game will be a TRUE indicator on how good the Cleveland Browns really are.
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