@ColonelKlink
Truth sux for you,doesn’t it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
EVERYTHING that is happening in that region and here in the United States is 100% self inflicted by demented racist, dirty old corrupt Joe Xiden.
His disastrous withdrawal from Afganistan, compete shut down of energy production in the United States. Oh by the way, we import around 500k barrels a day from Russia now. The lifting of sanctions on on Norstream pipe line. Just goes on and on and on...
Complete idiots. Liberals don't know any of this. What world do you people actually live in??
EVERYTHING that is happening in that region and here in the United States is 100% self inflicted by demented racist, dirty old corrupt Joe Xiden.
His disastrous withdrawal from Afganistan, compete shut down of energy production in the United States. Oh by the way, we import around 500k barrels a day from Russia now. The lifting of sanctions on on Norstream pipe line. Just goes on and on and on...
Complete idiots. Liberals don't know any of this. What world do you people actually live in??
If the stooges running this country hadn't closed off our entire energy sector, the United States would be supplying Western Europe with plentiful energy but nope, Biden cut all of that off so now they are dependent on Russia and so id the United States. Putin will smartly take over all of the Baltics. China will take Taiwan in an hour and the this country will turn into a banana republic. Hell is wrong with you people? Just unbelievable.
If the stooges running this country hadn't closed off our entire energy sector, the United States would be supplying Western Europe with plentiful energy but nope, Biden cut all of that off so now they are dependent on Russia and so id the United States. Putin will smartly take over all of the Baltics. China will take Taiwan in an hour and the this country will turn into a banana republic. Hell is wrong with you people? Just unbelievable.
What an embarrassing question.
What an embarrassing question.
Hey Stu, Actually Ukraine is number 6 in the world as far as armament funding from the United States in the last 13 years. Guns tanks rifles anti missile defense systems. etc etc.. Trump expanded that funding during his time in office. The top 5 countries are ALL in the middle east so that would put Ukraine at #1 in all of Europe.
I see your point but effort was there by the previous administration to ramp up.
Hey Stu, Actually Ukraine is number 6 in the world as far as armament funding from the United States in the last 13 years. Guns tanks rifles anti missile defense systems. etc etc.. Trump expanded that funding during his time in office. The top 5 countries are ALL in the middle east so that would put Ukraine at #1 in all of Europe.
I see your point but effort was there by the previous administration to ramp up.
@searchwarrant
There's so much more to worry about like Hunter's laptop, H's emails, cancer causing windmills, healthcare being so complicated, nuking hurricanes, where do we drain the swamp, raking the forests, toilet water pressure, meeting the President of the Virgin Islands, asking kids if they believed in Santa, purchasing Greenland and building that damn wall in Colorado with an alligator moat!
Yep, we have so many problems but I think we'll have to let these slide for a little bit longer.
@searchwarrant
There's so much more to worry about like Hunter's laptop, H's emails, cancer causing windmills, healthcare being so complicated, nuking hurricanes, where do we drain the swamp, raking the forests, toilet water pressure, meeting the President of the Virgin Islands, asking kids if they believed in Santa, purchasing Greenland and building that damn wall in Colorado with an alligator moat!
Yep, we have so many problems but I think we'll have to let these slide for a little bit longer.
The only sentence in that ridiculous paragraph worthy of commenting on is Hunter's laptop. Complete and total exposure of the Biden crime family using the presidential office and the United States for personal and financial gain. Seriously I'm concerned about you. Try to taper yourself off of social media and Don Lemon.
The only sentence in that ridiculous paragraph worthy of commenting on is Hunter's laptop. Complete and total exposure of the Biden crime family using the presidential office and the United States for personal and financial gain. Seriously I'm concerned about you. Try to taper yourself off of social media and Don Lemon.
exactly
but lest we forget other very pressing problems the chumpsters have identified including joe biden buying an ice cream , truckers protesting in canada , and the outrage of all outrages to actually nominate a BLACK woman to the supreme court (incredibly qualified though she may be)
exactly
but lest we forget other very pressing problems the chumpsters have identified including joe biden buying an ice cream , truckers protesting in canada , and the outrage of all outrages to actually nominate a BLACK woman to the supreme court (incredibly qualified though she may be)
Now she can join the BLACK Clarence Thomas. The difference between them will be that Clarence Thomas wasn’t picked based on the color of his skin.
Now she can join the BLACK Clarence Thomas. The difference between them will be that Clarence Thomas wasn’t picked based on the color of his skin.
Always good to go through life by concentrating on one thing at a time. Put blinders on and get to it. Stay focused and never get sidetracked by anything else at all. Make sure you either chew the gum or walk -- never do both. Multi-tasking is not good.
Always good to go through life by concentrating on one thing at a time. Put blinders on and get to it. Stay focused and never get sidetracked by anything else at all. Make sure you either chew the gum or walk -- never do both. Multi-tasking is not good.
So all of you are saying you don't care about Ukraine and the people there? and that anyone that does is a moron? If so, wow is all I can say. You all are a real bunch of cold-hearted, deranged individuals.
So all of you are saying you don't care about Ukraine and the people there? and that anyone that does is a moron? If so, wow is all I can say. You all are a real bunch of cold-hearted, deranged individuals.
Who is saying that? No one I know is saying that? For example:
2. America is watching, not intervening.
I know of no American, on the Right or the Left, who has called for sending the U.S. military into Ukraine. But every American should feel awful -- morally and as an American -- about America sitting by and watching the first major invasion of a peaceful country since Hitler and Stalin. One reason is that since World War II, the weaker nations of the world have all held onto the hope that should they be attacked by a stronger nation, Americans would come to their aid. America is aiding Ukraine with arms and economic sanctions.
Who is saying that? No one I know is saying that? For example:
2. America is watching, not intervening.
I know of no American, on the Right or the Left, who has called for sending the U.S. military into Ukraine. But every American should feel awful -- morally and as an American -- about America sitting by and watching the first major invasion of a peaceful country since Hitler and Stalin. One reason is that since World War II, the weaker nations of the world have all held onto the hope that should they be attacked by a stronger nation, Americans would come to their aid. America is aiding Ukraine with arms and economic sanctions.
@Raiders22
oh, my bad. That was the title of the thread that threw me off I guess. I suppose then that we as country should have done nothing? and let all the other neo-liberals that run the world try to deter Putin on their own?
@Raiders22
oh, my bad. That was the title of the thread that threw me off I guess. I suppose then that we as country should have done nothing? and let all the other neo-liberals that run the world try to deter Putin on their own?
Nah. I think it is the way the Left just wants this to be their cause all of a sudden that they want everyone to care about — as if a true democracy had been invaded out of nowhere. They also want to absolve Biden and his policies and try to somehow blame Trump and his policies.
The other point is there are many other issues the Left avoids but wants everyone on board with whatever they decide is best now that they have gotten jammed up.
But sure, now that the position is here, I think all of you guys in the USA are on board with seeing what they can do. Once the Left understands sanctions never work the way they are trying and can use some more effective ways to convince the Right that they are really sincere — then maybe all of you guys can be on the same page.
Nah. I think it is the way the Left just wants this to be their cause all of a sudden that they want everyone to care about — as if a true democracy had been invaded out of nowhere. They also want to absolve Biden and his policies and try to somehow blame Trump and his policies.
The other point is there are many other issues the Left avoids but wants everyone on board with whatever they decide is best now that they have gotten jammed up.
But sure, now that the position is here, I think all of you guys in the USA are on board with seeing what they can do. Once the Left understands sanctions never work the way they are trying and can use some more effective ways to convince the Right that they are really sincere — then maybe all of you guys can be on the same page.
You feel crime — especially violent — was not better when a Trump was in office? You don’t think the border problem is worse now than under Trump? These numbers are empirically verified. The others are subjective.
You feel crime — especially violent — was not better when a Trump was in office? You don’t think the border problem is worse now than under Trump? These numbers are empirically verified. The others are subjective.
Article about some of the sentiment:
The military-industrial complex and its clients sprinkled throughout both political parties seem to have decided that the next place we need to go and kill people (or at least sell weapons to help others kill people) is Ukraine, assuming that Russia decides to slice off a section of its former province.
Good for them. But before the rest of us get involved in yet another war that no one intends to win, it might be worthwhile to consider a few features of the landscape.
There is no nice way to say this, but the idea of Ukraine as a nation-state is relatively new. In the 350 years since the Eternal Peace Treaty (actual name) was signed in 1686, Ukraine has been either a vassal state or province of Russia. Ukraine has been independent only since 1991, and that independence happened only as a consequence of the United States and its allies winning the Cold War.
Like all people living near great powers, the Ukrainians have suffered from the proximity. Ireland has suffered for 1,000 years in the shadow of England. Our own neighbors — Canada and Mexico — do not consider living on the same continent with the United States an unmixed blessing.
However, misfortunes of geographical fate do not mean that we should wander into conflict. In the long sweep of American history, no serious person has ever suggested we assist Ireland in gaining or preserving her independence from England. There’s a good reason for that. We’re Americans — not Irish and certainly not Ukrainians. Our own problems are sufficient to themselves.
Nevertheless, folks ranging from President Biden to Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Texas Republican, have made it clear (well, sort of clear in the case of Mr. Biden) that they intend to view any crossing of the Ukrainian border as an act against the United States.
That is especially odd given that Mr. Biden and his party — and a pretty sizable chunk of the pre-Trump Republican Party — have been content to watch the slow-motion invasion of our own southern border for most of the last 50 years. Last year, for example, about 10 divisions crossed the border each month. We did nothing.
I guess there’s no money for the weapons crowd in protecting our own border.
Article about some of the sentiment:
The military-industrial complex and its clients sprinkled throughout both political parties seem to have decided that the next place we need to go and kill people (or at least sell weapons to help others kill people) is Ukraine, assuming that Russia decides to slice off a section of its former province.
Good for them. But before the rest of us get involved in yet another war that no one intends to win, it might be worthwhile to consider a few features of the landscape.
There is no nice way to say this, but the idea of Ukraine as a nation-state is relatively new. In the 350 years since the Eternal Peace Treaty (actual name) was signed in 1686, Ukraine has been either a vassal state or province of Russia. Ukraine has been independent only since 1991, and that independence happened only as a consequence of the United States and its allies winning the Cold War.
Like all people living near great powers, the Ukrainians have suffered from the proximity. Ireland has suffered for 1,000 years in the shadow of England. Our own neighbors — Canada and Mexico — do not consider living on the same continent with the United States an unmixed blessing.
However, misfortunes of geographical fate do not mean that we should wander into conflict. In the long sweep of American history, no serious person has ever suggested we assist Ireland in gaining or preserving her independence from England. There’s a good reason for that. We’re Americans — not Irish and certainly not Ukrainians. Our own problems are sufficient to themselves.
Nevertheless, folks ranging from President Biden to Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Texas Republican, have made it clear (well, sort of clear in the case of Mr. Biden) that they intend to view any crossing of the Ukrainian border as an act against the United States.
That is especially odd given that Mr. Biden and his party — and a pretty sizable chunk of the pre-Trump Republican Party — have been content to watch the slow-motion invasion of our own southern border for most of the last 50 years. Last year, for example, about 10 divisions crossed the border each month. We did nothing.
I guess there’s no money for the weapons crowd in protecting our own border.
The fixation on Ukraine is also odd because we are under no legal or moral obligations to protect Ukraine, nor do we have any treaty obligations to Ukraine. No one has explained what American interest is at risk in Ukraine, nor has anyone explained why American lives or property should be put at risk in the event of a Russian invasion into one of its former provinces.
Mr. Biden has not even done us the courtesy of pretending to seek congressional approval for whatever he might have in mind.
There are a handful of border disputes underway on this planet at any given moment. There is a 100-year-old border dispute in Ireland. There are border disputes in Sudan, India, Gibraltar, etc. There is a border dispute on our southern border where pretty much everyone on the planet believes they have the right to enter our country at will.
There is an increasingly ominous border dispute between the Republic of Taiwan and Communist China. That one, and the one on our southern border, are most material to specific American interests and specific American legal and moral obligations.
It is not clear why this border dispute in a corner of Eastern Europe is worthy of our attention. As the great German prime minister Otto von Bismarck once noted: “The entire Balkans are not worth the bones of one Pomeranian grenadier.” Nor are they worth the bones of a single United States soldier or Marine.
Russia is not a material threat to the United States. With a GDP of less than $2 trillion, Russia’s economy is smaller than Canada’s. It is a country with deteriorating economics and demographics. The real and existential threat we face is from the Communist Chinese Party. Russia, and by extension Ukraine, is a sideshow.
Finally, we’ve just lost the longest and most pointless war in the history of our nation. Now is not the time for more foreign and military adventurism and yet another pointless war.
The fixation on Ukraine is also odd because we are under no legal or moral obligations to protect Ukraine, nor do we have any treaty obligations to Ukraine. No one has explained what American interest is at risk in Ukraine, nor has anyone explained why American lives or property should be put at risk in the event of a Russian invasion into one of its former provinces.
Mr. Biden has not even done us the courtesy of pretending to seek congressional approval for whatever he might have in mind.
There are a handful of border disputes underway on this planet at any given moment. There is a 100-year-old border dispute in Ireland. There are border disputes in Sudan, India, Gibraltar, etc. There is a border dispute on our southern border where pretty much everyone on the planet believes they have the right to enter our country at will.
There is an increasingly ominous border dispute between the Republic of Taiwan and Communist China. That one, and the one on our southern border, are most material to specific American interests and specific American legal and moral obligations.
It is not clear why this border dispute in a corner of Eastern Europe is worthy of our attention. As the great German prime minister Otto von Bismarck once noted: “The entire Balkans are not worth the bones of one Pomeranian grenadier.” Nor are they worth the bones of a single United States soldier or Marine.
Russia is not a material threat to the United States. With a GDP of less than $2 trillion, Russia’s economy is smaller than Canada’s. It is a country with deteriorating economics and demographics. The real and existential threat we face is from the Communist Chinese Party. Russia, and by extension Ukraine, is a sideshow.
Finally, we’ve just lost the longest and most pointless war in the history of our nation. Now is not the time for more foreign and military adventurism and yet another pointless war.
Yessir. If that were the case I would agree. The numbers do not come from each administration. Or you might be correct, they could each make their own up. These numbers are apolitical, thankfully.
Yessir. If that were the case I would agree. The numbers do not come from each administration. Or you might be correct, they could each make their own up. These numbers are apolitical, thankfully.
Facts are good
Facts are good
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