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    saigonfan
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 12:12 AM ET #1

    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala.

    Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

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    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala.

    Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 12:18 AM ET #2

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not 

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    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 12:30 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by ScriptedTheater:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not

    my gosh...no words to describe how fkn clueless you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScriptedTheater:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not

    my gosh...no words to describe how fkn clueless you are.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:44 PM ET #4

    Yep. But Americans will never give up their guns, unfortunately.

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    Yep. But Americans will never give up their guns, unfortunately.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 4:51 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not
    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not

    Was the Kenosha shooting fake too? Staged and scripted? Or was that one real? The cameras and scenes of death simply paid actors? You seriously have problems man. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not
    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    He isnt dead... Why do people keep saying he is dead... He is alive... He wasnt even shot at, it was just another staged event just like everything else in this world... If the MSM reports on it, it is 100% staged... The MSM doesnt report on real stuff that happens in this world cuz it doesnt fit their narrative.. What just happened in Minny a few hours ago, do you think the MSM will report about it? Prolly not

    Was the Kenosha shooting fake too? Staged and scripted? Or was that one real? The cameras and scenes of death simply paid actors? You seriously have problems man. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 5:08 PM ET #6

    False flag Action because Camera is on When we Need to Show this in MSM but Fans of TV are sleeping,here in Europe will lockdown 2.0 because on Saturday a lot of milions people come to Berlin to fall Merkel and deep state 

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    False flag Action because Camera is on When we Need to Show this in MSM but Fans of TV are sleeping,here in Europe will lockdown 2.0 because on Saturday a lot of milions people come to Berlin to fall Merkel and deep state 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 6:29 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by saigonfan:

    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala. Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

     

    Do you think your country overall is safer than the USA?

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonfan:

    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala. Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

     

    Do you think your country overall is safer than the USA?

     

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 6:55 PM ET #8

    Fuk all the players who are boycotting 

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    Fuk all the players who are boycotting 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2020 - 8:31 PM ET #9

    I am pro guns and owning guns. I always was. However, in last few years, people have not been smart with guns ! If this continues, do we have an case to abolish guns ??!

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    I am pro guns and owning guns. I always was. However, in last few years, people have not been smart with guns ! If this continues, do we have an case to abolish guns ??!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 8:01 AM ET #10

    Thought OP was gonna say that thing...that thing...Lauryn Hill song because this actually all started because of a domestic dispute with a female...if he was just chillin playing madden at the crib none of this shit would have happened. 

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    Thought OP was gonna say that thing...that thing...Lauryn Hill song because this actually all started because of a domestic dispute with a female...if he was just chillin playing madden at the crib none of this shit would have happened. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 8:52 AM ET #11

    I don't care who side you guys go with. Use common sense guys. If the guy is not facing you, you don't shoot the guy "7 times" in front of his or her children. If he or she runs "AWAY FROM YOU", you don't shoot him or her where it can kill them. Why not shoot them in the freaking leg instead. This happened so many times. Those cops have been trained to kill instead of to protect. If the suspect "runs TOWARD YOU WITH THE GUN ON HIS OR HER HAND", then no argument there. The cop has to protect himself/herself and shoot the suspect. To shoot the suspect where it can take their life must be the LAST RESORT. Those cops just don't get it.

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    I don't care who side you guys go with. Use common sense guys. If the guy is not facing you, you don't shoot the guy "7 times" in front of his or her children. If he or she runs "AWAY FROM YOU", you don't shoot him or her where it can kill them. Why not shoot them in the freaking leg instead. This happened so many times. Those cops have been trained to kill instead of to protect. If the suspect "runs TOWARD YOU WITH THE GUN ON HIS OR HER HAND", then no argument there. The cop has to protect himself/herself and shoot the suspect. To shoot the suspect where it can take their life must be the LAST RESORT. Those cops just don't get it.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 9:15 AM ET #12

    What are you talking about? Mexico you can't own a gun. But criminals will always have them no matter what. 

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    What are you talking about? Mexico you can't own a gun. But criminals will always have them no matter what. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonfan:

    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala. Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

    You must born here kid. In Asia they beat you frist and ask question later and in Asia you don’t move went the cop told you to move. Because you know what gonna happen to you. And they will not shot on your back they will blow your brain ?? off and send you to hell.That why in Asia we  obey the law. Because law in Asia there  will not take you lightly like USA ????.And please don’t start say anything or lie to these people in here and if All adults Asia in here see your post  they will tell you the same. Because in Asia the prison is not like this because all the prison there you have to stay in one room together eat and shit there and he’ll even look better than that. Prison in USA is like Motel and that why a lot of criminals here they don’t care if they do crimes because they have a nice place to stay.you don’t know what you talking about and I feel a shame if I’m your parents  or your grandparents. I think you better than that kid and I know your parents raise you right 

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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonfan:

    It's because US legalised the gun. Only 3 counties in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun: The US, Mexico and Guatemala. Jacob Blake was shot dead from his back because the police officers suspected Blake was reaching a gun in his car. In my country (in Asia) this incident would never happen because benefit of doubt will be given to anyone or any potential criminal until you see that person holding a gun or weapon with your own eyes.

    You must born here kid. In Asia they beat you frist and ask question later and in Asia you don’t move went the cop told you to move. Because you know what gonna happen to you. And they will not shot on your back they will blow your brain ?? off and send you to hell.That why in Asia we  obey the law. Because law in Asia there  will not take you lightly like USA ????.And please don’t start say anything or lie to these people in here and if All adults Asia in here see your post  they will tell you the same. Because in Asia the prison is not like this because all the prison there you have to stay in one room together eat and shit there and he’ll even look better than that. Prison in USA is like Motel and that why a lot of criminals here they don’t care if they do crimes because they have a nice place to stay.you don’t know what you talking about and I feel a shame if I’m your parents  or your grandparents. I think you better than that kid and I know your parents raise you right 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 9:46 AM ET #14

    the smartest men in the world wrote the bill of rights over 200 years ago and it will stay that way in america forever. gun laws in the u.s. will never change. 

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    the smartest men in the world wrote the bill of rights over 200 years ago and it will stay that way in america forever. gun laws in the u.s. will never change. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 10:11 AM ET #15

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen.

    99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. 

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    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen.

    99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 10:20 AM ET #16

    This thread is a great example of why we here in the US are destined to stay clueless; the fact is that not only are we hopelessly deluded about what is happening in our country but we also have the willful ignorance to tell any foreigner what it's like in their country. We're destined to become a 3rd world country within our lifetime- no more  than 40 years. depressing

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    This thread is a great example of why we here in the US are destined to stay clueless; the fact is that not only are we hopelessly deluded about what is happening in our country but we also have the willful ignorance to tell any foreigner what it's like in their country. We're destined to become a 3rd world country within our lifetime- no more  than 40 years. depressing

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2056:

    This thread is a great example of why we here in the US are destined to stay clueless; the fact is that not only are we hopelessly deluded about what is happening in our country but we also have the willful ignorance to tell any foreigner what it's like in their country. We're destined to become a 3rd world country within our lifetime- no more  than 40 years. depressing

     There are many people that have lived/worked/visited other countries. Speaking from experience is not what I would call "willful ignorance". The biggest problem is stupidity........that & indifference. Some people are raised to not GAF about anyone else but themselves. Many are born here, others end up here by other means. These people adapt to know where the "edge" is, & they'll push it. But yeah, if we don't shore up our security we'll be headed for that status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2056:

    This thread is a great example of why we here in the US are destined to stay clueless; the fact is that not only are we hopelessly deluded about what is happening in our country but we also have the willful ignorance to tell any foreigner what it's like in their country. We're destined to become a 3rd world country within our lifetime- no more  than 40 years. depressing

     There are many people that have lived/worked/visited other countries. Speaking from experience is not what I would call "willful ignorance". The biggest problem is stupidity........that & indifference. Some people are raised to not GAF about anyone else but themselves. Many are born here, others end up here by other means. These people adapt to know where the "edge" is, & they'll push it. But yeah, if we don't shore up our security we'll be headed for that status.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 11:11 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynasty4:

    I don't care who side you guys go with. Use common sense guys. If the guy is not facing you, you don't shoot the guy "7 times" in front of his or her children. If he or she runs "AWAY FROM YOU", you don't shoot him or her where it can kill them. Why not shoot them in the freaking leg instead. This happened so many times. Those cops have been trained to kill instead of to protect. If the suspect "runs TOWARD YOU WITH THE GUN ON HIS OR HER HAND", then no argument there. The cop has to protect himself/herself and shoot the suspect. To shoot the suspect where it can take their life must be the LAST RESORT. Those cops just don't get it.

     

    not sure if you ever worked in law enforcement but I have..and you need the Three factors present to use deadly force...intent capability and opportunity. If the suspect is disobeying your direct orders then you have to assume intent could be a factor..now obviously if he’s running away then you can throw all those factors out the window as the situation has de-escalated. But in this situation you don’t not know what his intent was walking towards his vehicle and reaching into the vehicle which he now could have capability by grabbing a possible weapon. He then could have the opportunity of turning around with that weapon and blowing your head off. Now the 7 shots fired was indeed excessive which leads me to believe this might be the first time this officer ever had to discharge his weapon at someone. Signs of him panicking. When you are in these situations you have to think fast and he panicked and unloaded 7 rounds. Don’t know the history of this officer but if he panicked then he clearly should not be a law enforcement officer. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynasty4:

    I don't care who side you guys go with. Use common sense guys. If the guy is not facing you, you don't shoot the guy "7 times" in front of his or her children. If he or she runs "AWAY FROM YOU", you don't shoot him or her where it can kill them. Why not shoot them in the freaking leg instead. This happened so many times. Those cops have been trained to kill instead of to protect. If the suspect "runs TOWARD YOU WITH THE GUN ON HIS OR HER HAND", then no argument there. The cop has to protect himself/herself and shoot the suspect. To shoot the suspect where it can take their life must be the LAST RESORT. Those cops just don't get it.

     

    not sure if you ever worked in law enforcement but I have..and you need the Three factors present to use deadly force...intent capability and opportunity. If the suspect is disobeying your direct orders then you have to assume intent could be a factor..now obviously if he’s running away then you can throw all those factors out the window as the situation has de-escalated. But in this situation you don’t not know what his intent was walking towards his vehicle and reaching into the vehicle which he now could have capability by grabbing a possible weapon. He then could have the opportunity of turning around with that weapon and blowing your head off. Now the 7 shots fired was indeed excessive which leads me to believe this might be the first time this officer ever had to discharge his weapon at someone. Signs of him panicking. When you are in these situations you have to think fast and he panicked and unloaded 7 rounds. Don’t know the history of this officer but if he panicked then he clearly should not be a law enforcement officer. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 1:15 PM ET #19

    Too much freedom of speak of this country and that’s why Kids are parents and that why criminals call hero. Can someone please explain if there’s no law or rules. How we gonna be able to sleep at night and let all these criminals walking a round the streets rob and rap your children and wife. So you can watch and can’t not do not about it. And who’s you gonna call then. Isn’t that hard just stop and don’t say a word when you know that person that has power than you just like when you at the bar by yourself and you keep running your mouth. What gonna happen then. and I know nothing fair in these world ?? and it never be.Dont take a genius to figure out. Sad but true  new_bleaknew_heavy_cry

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    Too much freedom of speak of this country and that’s why Kids are parents and that why criminals call hero. Can someone please explain if there’s no law or rules. How we gonna be able to sleep at night and let all these criminals walking a round the streets rob and rap your children and wife. So you can watch and can’t not do not about it. And who’s you gonna call then. Isn’t that hard just stop and don’t say a word when you know that person that has power than you just like when you at the bar by yourself and you keep running your mouth. What gonna happen then. and I know nothing fair in these world ?? and it never be.Dont take a genius to figure out. Sad but true  new_bleaknew_heavy_cry

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 6:52 PM ET #20

    guns don't kill people....

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    guns don't kill people....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 7:09 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    True that. Even this 17 year old moron Kenosha shooter who many on the right are claiming to be a patriot, was carrying an assault rifle (illegally). an_light

    But hey he just traveled across state lines, while illegally possessing a firearm to maintain law and order in a state he did not live in right? Most people tote assault rifles in public streets in cities they don't live in to keep peace and engage in self-defense activities. an_roll_laugh I am sure he was not looking for any trouble at all. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    True that. Even this 17 year old moron Kenosha shooter who many on the right are claiming to be a patriot, was carrying an assault rifle (illegally). an_light

    But hey he just traveled across state lines, while illegally possessing a firearm to maintain law and order in a state he did not live in right? Most people tote assault rifles in public streets in cities they don't live in to keep peace and engage in self-defense activities. an_roll_laugh I am sure he was not looking for any trouble at all. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 8:08 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    99.9% of gun owners simply keep it under their bed and never touch it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    99.9% of gun owners simply keep it under their bed and never touch it...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 10:09 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    and what's the biggest source of those illegally purchased or stolen guns? probably legally obtained guns  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929:

    Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes.

    and what's the biggest source of those illegally purchased or stolen guns? probably legally obtained guns  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2020 - 11:06 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by pj.sports:

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929: Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. and what's the biggest source of those illegally purchased or stolen guns? probably legally obtained guns

    All illegal guns start with a legal gun purchase at some point. Gang bangers aren't meeting up with Chechen arms dealers in Compton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pj.sports:

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929: Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. and what's the biggest source of those illegally purchased or stolen guns? probably legally obtained guns

    All illegal guns start with a legal gun purchase at some point. Gang bangers aren't meeting up with Chechen arms dealers in Compton.

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2020 - 12:39 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929: Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. True that. Even this 17 year old moron Kenosha shooter who many on the right are claiming to be a patriot, was carrying an assault rifle (illegally).  But hey he just traveled across state lines, while illegally possessing a firearm to maintain law and order in a state he did not live in right? Most people tote assault rifles in public streets in cities they don't live in to keep peace and engage in self-defense activities.  I am sure he was not looking for any trouble at all.

    It's legal to own an ar15 at the age of 17. Its legal to open carry a rifle that is not an sbr at the age of 17 in wisconsin. It's legal to defend use it for self defense as he did. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo2929: Most guns used in crimes are purchased illegally or stolen. 99% of legal gun owners do not commit crimes. True that. Even this 17 year old moron Kenosha shooter who many on the right are claiming to be a patriot, was carrying an assault rifle (illegally).  But hey he just traveled across state lines, while illegally possessing a firearm to maintain law and order in a state he did not live in right? Most people tote assault rifles in public streets in cities they don't live in to keep peace and engage in self-defense activities.  I am sure he was not looking for any trouble at all.

    It's legal to own an ar15 at the age of 17. Its legal to open carry a rifle that is not an sbr at the age of 17 in wisconsin. It's legal to defend use it for self defense as he did. 

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