I appreciate Scalabrine's take on this. I just think it is unfair though. I just am dieting and that is why I brought some strawberries and yogurt. I also had a tuna sandwich so it is not like all my food was feminine. I am quite cuddly actually. And I just was enjoying a nice afternoon at the park. I knew I should have adopted children so people would think I was a real man.
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I appreciate Scalabrine's take on this. I just think it is unfair though. I just am dieting and that is why I brought some strawberries and yogurt. I also had a tuna sandwich so it is not like all my food was feminine. I am quite cuddly actually. And I just was enjoying a nice afternoon at the park. I knew I should have adopted children so people would think I was a real man.
I really don't see the problem with a grown man spending a nice afternoon alone in the park having a peaceful picnic, as he enjoy strawberries and yogurt.
I wish I was there to join you, Mama.
you bring the patato salad I will bring the Tofu burgers
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Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:
I really don't see the problem with a grown man spending a nice afternoon alone in the park having a peaceful picnic, as he enjoy strawberries and yogurt.
I wish I was there to join you, Mama.
you bring the patato salad I will bring the Tofu burgers
I appreciate Scalabrine's take on this. I just think it is unfair though. I just am dieting and that is why I brought some strawberries and yogurt. I also had a tuna sandwich so it is not like all my food was feminine. I am quite cuddly actually. And I just was enjoying a nice afternoon at the park. I knew I should have adopted children so people would think I was a real man.
Unfair yes...even if you did bring a tuna sandwich, people knew it was you that prepared it, which will put it in the same place as berries and yogurt....
Children are not the answer... neither is marriage...how many times do you hear people say "Married...it doesn't matter if he's married!"?...you can thank Jim McGreevey, ex NJ GOV for that one as a high profile example in recent times...
Back to the children...it may be harder to be accepted in society as a son or daughter of a homosexual father as it would be just being a homosexual yourself...the abuse in the school system/social circles will quite traumatic and I am talking about upwards of 25 years of it...by the time they are 27-30, they'll have come to terms with the way the world is treating them/you and of course, it will leave them quite jaded...
You're basically setting the child up for a hurdle in life that is not insurmountable, but very trying/painful to get over...and according to your post, would have alot to do with your own needs of self-assurance/justification outside of companionship/fatherhood...
Ultimately, after 20 years of parenting, you could be left very lonely...all this after giving your child a home, an education, emotional support, and necessities... something they might not appreciate they wouldn't have received on their own...all because their father was gay...the genetic bond between biological parent and child is ironclad and humans are the only species in the animal kingdom who practice adoption...who's to say it works?...what prominent news outlet would report on the failures of adoption? in my life...i've seen more failures than successes...it takes a special parent and a special child (of which there are no guarantees) to make it work
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Quote Originally Posted by mamatheregoes:
I appreciate Scalabrine's take on this. I just think it is unfair though. I just am dieting and that is why I brought some strawberries and yogurt. I also had a tuna sandwich so it is not like all my food was feminine. I am quite cuddly actually. And I just was enjoying a nice afternoon at the park. I knew I should have adopted children so people would think I was a real man.
Unfair yes...even if you did bring a tuna sandwich, people knew it was you that prepared it, which will put it in the same place as berries and yogurt....
Children are not the answer... neither is marriage...how many times do you hear people say "Married...it doesn't matter if he's married!"?...you can thank Jim McGreevey, ex NJ GOV for that one as a high profile example in recent times...
Back to the children...it may be harder to be accepted in society as a son or daughter of a homosexual father as it would be just being a homosexual yourself...the abuse in the school system/social circles will quite traumatic and I am talking about upwards of 25 years of it...by the time they are 27-30, they'll have come to terms with the way the world is treating them/you and of course, it will leave them quite jaded...
You're basically setting the child up for a hurdle in life that is not insurmountable, but very trying/painful to get over...and according to your post, would have alot to do with your own needs of self-assurance/justification outside of companionship/fatherhood...
Ultimately, after 20 years of parenting, you could be left very lonely...all this after giving your child a home, an education, emotional support, and necessities... something they might not appreciate they wouldn't have received on their own...all because their father was gay...the genetic bond between biological parent and child is ironclad and humans are the only species in the animal kingdom who practice adoption...who's to say it works?...what prominent news outlet would report on the failures of adoption? in my life...i've seen more failures than successes...it takes a special parent and a special child (of which there are no guarantees) to make it work
So should I adopt an animal? I had taken in a stray cat but gave it away to a neighbor because it was not happy in my studio apartment. I bet if I had a dog on a leash at that park no one would have laughed at me. But the dog may have tried to steal my yogurt which I could not deal with. Obviously I need a masculine dog with much discipline around food. Maybe a Sharpei or Beagle?
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So should I adopt an animal? I had taken in a stray cat but gave it away to a neighbor because it was not happy in my studio apartment. I bet if I had a dog on a leash at that park no one would have laughed at me. But the dog may have tried to steal my yogurt which I could not deal with. Obviously I need a masculine dog with much discipline around food. Maybe a Sharpei or Beagle?
So should I adopt an animal? I had taken in a stray cat but gave it away to a neighbor because it was not happy in my studio apartment. I bet if I had a dog on a leash at that park no one would have laughed at me. But the dog may have tried to steal my yogurt which I could not deal with. Obviously I need a masculine dog with much discipline around food. Maybe a Sharpei or Beagle?
i have found cats/dogs from the pound (i've had both) who have enjoyed a previous owner's care and then were abandoned (for whatever reason, they have no idea if it had to do with the economy), have a far greater sense of loyalty having reconnected with a human who is willing and able to supply their needs....animals from the pet store appear to have a sense of entitlement in my eyes and do not measure up in terms of faithfulness IMO
Boston Terriers get my highest recommendation... extremely loyal/loving, need little direction/housebreaking and they don't shed ...this is not the type of 'masculine' dog you are looking for but really, let's not compensate for a lack of manliness with a pet.
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Quote Originally Posted by mamatheregoes:
So should I adopt an animal? I had taken in a stray cat but gave it away to a neighbor because it was not happy in my studio apartment. I bet if I had a dog on a leash at that park no one would have laughed at me. But the dog may have tried to steal my yogurt which I could not deal with. Obviously I need a masculine dog with much discipline around food. Maybe a Sharpei or Beagle?
i have found cats/dogs from the pound (i've had both) who have enjoyed a previous owner's care and then were abandoned (for whatever reason, they have no idea if it had to do with the economy), have a far greater sense of loyalty having reconnected with a human who is willing and able to supply their needs....animals from the pet store appear to have a sense of entitlement in my eyes and do not measure up in terms of faithfulness IMO
Boston Terriers get my highest recommendation... extremely loyal/loving, need little direction/housebreaking and they don't shed ...this is not the type of 'masculine' dog you are looking for but really, let's not compensate for a lack of manliness with a pet.
i have found cats/dogs from the pound (i've had both) who have enjoyed a previous owner's care and then were abandoned (for whatever reason, they have no idea if it had to do with the economy), have a far greater sense of loyalty having reconnected with a human who is willing and able to supply their needs....animals from the pet store appear to have a sense of entitlement in my eyes and do not measure up in terms of faithfulness IMO
Boston Terriers get my highest recommendation... extremely loyal/loving, need little direction/housebreaking and they don't shed ...this is not the type of 'masculine' dog you are looking for but really, let's not compensate for a lack of manliness with a pet.
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
i have found cats/dogs from the pound (i've had both) who have enjoyed a previous owner's care and then were abandoned (for whatever reason, they have no idea if it had to do with the economy), have a far greater sense of loyalty having reconnected with a human who is willing and able to supply their needs....animals from the pet store appear to have a sense of entitlement in my eyes and do not measure up in terms of faithfulness IMO
Boston Terriers get my highest recommendation... extremely loyal/loving, need little direction/housebreaking and they don't shed ...this is not the type of 'masculine' dog you are looking for but really, let's not compensate for a lack of manliness with a pet.
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
penalty box is littered with everything today from animal abuse to bestiality... basically covering the entire gamut of classlessness... expected nothing less from this place
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Quote Originally Posted by starwink:
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
penalty box is littered with everything today from animal abuse to bestiality... basically covering the entire gamut of classlessness... expected nothing less from this place
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
You are taking this "man's best friend" thing a little too far, 'wink...
No more scrubbing your crotch with the dog..
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Quote Originally Posted by starwink:
The Boston Terrier is also an excellent camping companion. You can wipe your soiled areas with him, put him outside, and simply rinse him off with water in the morning.
You are taking this "man's best friend" thing a little too far, 'wink...
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