@7272 The man who got killed saturday was a real hero who served his community for along time and was a great father who shielded his kids from harm. Unfortunately like in war there is collateral damage and he was it. 1 life means nothing to these people despite the bs lip service they give. Just like thoughts and prayers when a mass shooter kills kids at a school and nothing is ever done about guns. There is no way in hell some kid got on a roof which is the obvious place where a sniper would be without anyone knowing about it or stopping it. 1 LOCAL COP ENCOUNTERED HIM BEFORE HE FIRED THE SHOTS AND RETREATED. Why was that? If the cop gunned him down no one would of blamed him. It's almost like he was told not to by someone. It's suspicious to say the least.
Why did the cops retreat in Uvalde. Local cops suck. They lack training and very rarely have any experience with actual active shooters. These guys aren't spec ops soldiers. They're 9-5ers.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
@7272 The man who got killed saturday was a real hero who served his community for along time and was a great father who shielded his kids from harm. Unfortunately like in war there is collateral damage and he was it. 1 life means nothing to these people despite the bs lip service they give. Just like thoughts and prayers when a mass shooter kills kids at a school and nothing is ever done about guns. There is no way in hell some kid got on a roof which is the obvious place where a sniper would be without anyone knowing about it or stopping it. 1 LOCAL COP ENCOUNTERED HIM BEFORE HE FIRED THE SHOTS AND RETREATED. Why was that? If the cop gunned him down no one would of blamed him. It's almost like he was told not to by someone. It's suspicious to say the least.
Why did the cops retreat in Uvalde. Local cops suck. They lack training and very rarely have any experience with actual active shooters. These guys aren't spec ops soldiers. They're 9-5ers.
Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper: @StumpTownStu Trump and his sicko team are above nothing to get this worthless piece of filth reflected again. Nothing about what happened saturday seems real in any way. Can't get any more bizarre then that scene 2 days ago. Almost like it was staged 1) Trump's team doesn't need to stage an assassination attempt to get him re-elected because Biden is such a Gawd awful candidate. Most recent elections are reactionary. Two terms of Bush made people say "Ugh, we need something different. What's up with this Obama cat?" Reaction to Obama brought about Trump. Reaction to Trump brought about Biden. Reaction to Biden will bring back Trump. 2) What is so hard to understand? We have never seen a former, current, or presidential nominee barnstorm in this way. It makes for tough logistics in securing sites. He wasn't in a ballroom. He was out in a field. And he doesn't have the same level of Secret Service detail as a sitting president, though he has had increased resources made available. You illustrate what's wrong with the current zeitgeist. People don't want to believe anything that isn't perfectly crafted for their own narrative. So on one hand, you have people like my brody sundance, who think there's some assassination conspiracy involving Biden himself with law enforcement and secret service given orders to stand down. On the other, there are people like you who think Trump staged it himself for sympathy. And in both these cases, conspiracies involving current or former presidents, they use a 20 year old incel with little to no firearms training, to take the shot. Even Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine.
Very well reasoned and written! Can't agree with you more.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper: @StumpTownStu Trump and his sicko team are above nothing to get this worthless piece of filth reflected again. Nothing about what happened saturday seems real in any way. Can't get any more bizarre then that scene 2 days ago. Almost like it was staged 1) Trump's team doesn't need to stage an assassination attempt to get him re-elected because Biden is such a Gawd awful candidate. Most recent elections are reactionary. Two terms of Bush made people say "Ugh, we need something different. What's up with this Obama cat?" Reaction to Obama brought about Trump. Reaction to Trump brought about Biden. Reaction to Biden will bring back Trump. 2) What is so hard to understand? We have never seen a former, current, or presidential nominee barnstorm in this way. It makes for tough logistics in securing sites. He wasn't in a ballroom. He was out in a field. And he doesn't have the same level of Secret Service detail as a sitting president, though he has had increased resources made available. You illustrate what's wrong with the current zeitgeist. People don't want to believe anything that isn't perfectly crafted for their own narrative. So on one hand, you have people like my brody sundance, who think there's some assassination conspiracy involving Biden himself with law enforcement and secret service given orders to stand down. On the other, there are people like you who think Trump staged it himself for sympathy. And in both these cases, conspiracies involving current or former presidents, they use a 20 year old incel with little to no firearms training, to take the shot. Even Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine.
Very well reasoned and written! Can't agree with you more.
@7272 The man who got killed saturday was a real hero who served his community for along time and was a great father who shielded his kids from harm. Unfortunately like in war there is collateral damage and he was it. 1 life means nothing to these people despite the bs lip service they give. Just like thoughts and prayers when a mass shooter kills kids at a school and nothing is ever done about guns. There is no way in hell some kid got on a roof which is the obvious place where a sniper would be without anyone knowing about it or stopping it. 1 LOCAL COP ENCOUNTERED HIM BEFORE HE FIRED THE SHOTS AND RETREATED. Why was that? If the cop gunned him down no one would of blamed him. It's almost like he was told not to by someone. It's suspicious to say the least.
If he suddenly suicides himself, like all of Killary's witnesses, then you are on to something. My guess is that the reality of that situation isn't as strange and easy to understand. More will be known in due time.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
@7272 The man who got killed saturday was a real hero who served his community for along time and was a great father who shielded his kids from harm. Unfortunately like in war there is collateral damage and he was it. 1 life means nothing to these people despite the bs lip service they give. Just like thoughts and prayers when a mass shooter kills kids at a school and nothing is ever done about guns. There is no way in hell some kid got on a roof which is the obvious place where a sniper would be without anyone knowing about it or stopping it. 1 LOCAL COP ENCOUNTERED HIM BEFORE HE FIRED THE SHOTS AND RETREATED. Why was that? If the cop gunned him down no one would of blamed him. It's almost like he was told not to by someone. It's suspicious to say the least.
If he suddenly suicides himself, like all of Killary's witnesses, then you are on to something. My guess is that the reality of that situation isn't as strange and easy to understand. More will be known in due time.
Quote Originally Posted by 7272: @Brooklyncapper That's a pretty bold statement. Unfortunately, the guy who died, his family may not agree. I do agree, how a 20 year old kid got that close is rather curious. You can't get nothing by those guys You'd be surprised. The secret service detail for a sitting president and the secret service detail for a former president is to different things. They were in an open field. They weren't a ton of vantage points for counter sniper teams. There's stil no way a shooter should've been able to set up shop closer than two football fields away but it's not like Trump, as a former president, has the advance team that a current president has. There's gona be some things that slip through the cracks. 160 yards, or whatever it is, on one hand is extremely close for just about any modern rifle. On the other hand, it's still the equivalent of a block away.
The sad part is that roof should have been and could have been covered with police. It was not and that in it of itself is not acceptable. They had one job to do and that is to secure the site and its surroundings. Whoever was in charge did a horrible job. Yes, the outcome doesn't help but maps of the area show that the shooter had access to and was on an unarmed rooftop. How is that possible in this day and age is beyond me.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by 7272: @Brooklyncapper That's a pretty bold statement. Unfortunately, the guy who died, his family may not agree. I do agree, how a 20 year old kid got that close is rather curious. You can't get nothing by those guys You'd be surprised. The secret service detail for a sitting president and the secret service detail for a former president is to different things. They were in an open field. They weren't a ton of vantage points for counter sniper teams. There's stil no way a shooter should've been able to set up shop closer than two football fields away but it's not like Trump, as a former president, has the advance team that a current president has. There's gona be some things that slip through the cracks. 160 yards, or whatever it is, on one hand is extremely close for just about any modern rifle. On the other hand, it's still the equivalent of a block away.
The sad part is that roof should have been and could have been covered with police. It was not and that in it of itself is not acceptable. They had one job to do and that is to secure the site and its surroundings. Whoever was in charge did a horrible job. Yes, the outcome doesn't help but maps of the area show that the shooter had access to and was on an unarmed rooftop. How is that possible in this day and age is beyond me.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by 7272: @Brooklyncapper That's a pretty bold statement. Unfortunately, the guy who died, his family may not agree. I do agree, how a 20 year old kid got that close is rather curious. You can't get nothing by those guys You'd be surprised. The secret service detail for a sitting president and the secret service detail for a former president is to different things. They were in an open field. They weren't a ton of vantage points for counter sniper teams. There's stil no way a shooter should've been able to set up shop closer than two football fields away but it's not like Trump, as a former president, has the advance team that a current president has. There's gona be some things that slip through the cracks. 160 yards, or whatever it is, on one hand is extremely close for just about any modern rifle. On the other hand, it's still the equivalent of a block away.The sad part is that roof should have been and could have been covered with police. It was not and that in it of itself is not acceptable. They had one job to do and that is to secure the site and its surroundings. Whoever was in charge did a horrible job. Yes, the outcome doesn't help but maps of the area show that the shooter had access to and was on an unarmed rooftop. How is that possible in this day and age is beyond me.
I've been around a secret service detail more than a couple of times. I again stress that the level of detail is different for a former president and a sitting president. Not only that, any detail is supplemented by local law enforcement, which can include city PD, county Sheriff Deputies, usually in cars, on bikes (full sized motorcycles and dirtbikes), and horse mounted. Special Weapons teams from either or both. Local bomb squads. State Troopers. This is what I have experienced in a city/county with the resources of San Francisco. Now look where this happened. Can you name the city without google. Can you name the county? What type of law enforcement resources do you think such a place could provide? It shouldn't have happened but it's not shocking.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by 7272: @Brooklyncapper That's a pretty bold statement. Unfortunately, the guy who died, his family may not agree. I do agree, how a 20 year old kid got that close is rather curious. You can't get nothing by those guys You'd be surprised. The secret service detail for a sitting president and the secret service detail for a former president is to different things. They were in an open field. They weren't a ton of vantage points for counter sniper teams. There's stil no way a shooter should've been able to set up shop closer than two football fields away but it's not like Trump, as a former president, has the advance team that a current president has. There's gona be some things that slip through the cracks. 160 yards, or whatever it is, on one hand is extremely close for just about any modern rifle. On the other hand, it's still the equivalent of a block away.The sad part is that roof should have been and could have been covered with police. It was not and that in it of itself is not acceptable. They had one job to do and that is to secure the site and its surroundings. Whoever was in charge did a horrible job. Yes, the outcome doesn't help but maps of the area show that the shooter had access to and was on an unarmed rooftop. How is that possible in this day and age is beyond me.
I've been around a secret service detail more than a couple of times. I again stress that the level of detail is different for a former president and a sitting president. Not only that, any detail is supplemented by local law enforcement, which can include city PD, county Sheriff Deputies, usually in cars, on bikes (full sized motorcycles and dirtbikes), and horse mounted. Special Weapons teams from either or both. Local bomb squads. State Troopers. This is what I have experienced in a city/county with the resources of San Francisco. Now look where this happened. Can you name the city without google. Can you name the county? What type of law enforcement resources do you think such a place could provide? It shouldn't have happened but it's not shocking.
Would you say that it is better to group 3 with rifles on one rooftop or expand out and cover each rooftop that had any shot whatsoever?
I mean this was not a shooter on the ground this was a shooter on a rooftop which is where one would need to be to have the best angle....he had access to a really sloe rooftop that should have been a focal point of covering...I mean, they did have scope on him but that is not the same as being preventative and already having personnel on each of those neighboring rooftops...it's not like this was a major city where it might be impossible to cover every rooftop...this was an open field and looks like the only rooftop that wasn't covered....the snipers only took cover behind where trump was not in any of the buildings where the other rooftops were..there were only possibly 3 other rooftops exposed and the other 2 appear to be further away and both may not have had a shot anyway do to tree lines....seems like a poor set up to me
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Would you say that it is better to group 3 with rifles on one rooftop or expand out and cover each rooftop that had any shot whatsoever?
I mean this was not a shooter on the ground this was a shooter on a rooftop which is where one would need to be to have the best angle....he had access to a really sloe rooftop that should have been a focal point of covering...I mean, they did have scope on him but that is not the same as being preventative and already having personnel on each of those neighboring rooftops...it's not like this was a major city where it might be impossible to cover every rooftop...this was an open field and looks like the only rooftop that wasn't covered....the snipers only took cover behind where trump was not in any of the buildings where the other rooftops were..there were only possibly 3 other rooftops exposed and the other 2 appear to be further away and both may not have had a shot anyway do to tree lines....seems like a poor set up to me
State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations.
What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really.
I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was.
You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost.
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations.
What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really.
I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was.
You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost.
Would you say that it is better to group 3 with rifles on one rooftop or expand out and cover each rooftop that had any shot whatsoever? I mean this was not a shooter on the ground this was a shooter on a rooftop which is where one would need to be to have the best angle....he had access to a really sloe rooftop that should have been a focal point of covering...I mean, they did have scope on him but that is not the same as being preventative and already having personnel on each of those neighboring rooftops...it's not like this was a major city where it might be impossible to cover every rooftop...this was an open field and looks like the only rooftop that wasn't covered....the snipers only took cover behind where trump was not in any of the buildings where the other rooftops were..there were only possibly 3 other rooftops exposed and the other 2 appear to be further away and both may not have had a shot anyway do to tree lines....seems like a poor set up to me
Yeah, I think attended rallies in fields inherently is a poor set up. From what I have seen of rooftop coverage, again we are talking am urban environment, dense with tall buildings, there are usually sniper teams everywhere . There isn't a team on every single building, but there is plenty of coverage. I don't think these guys have many blind spots but that's not to say they don't exist. Likewise, there are teams spread out all across downtown, covering his route from the hotel to whatever engagement he his attending. Again, I don't think these teams are all specifically secret service. Maybe none are. They are a mix of federal agents and local special weapons teams. When a sitting president is in town, there are literally FBI agents who dress like civilians and blend into public places. I'm talking places the president won't be anywhere near. They're literally just scoping the local scene. Maybe they overhear something.
All this is neither here nor there. We aren't talking about a sitting president. I don't know how many, counter sniper units are dispatched for a former president. I did hear that Trump is afforded extra resources given he is also a presidential candidate. There was no excuse for this. From what I saw of the site, they should've had their own teams on every roof but apparently that isn't protocol. I'm sure it will be going forward. The point i'm making is:
There are levels to secret service details, and Trump isn't the current president. And full details have a large contingency of local law enforcement. City and county. I don't know what level of support you're getting in that whistlestop town.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
Would you say that it is better to group 3 with rifles on one rooftop or expand out and cover each rooftop that had any shot whatsoever? I mean this was not a shooter on the ground this was a shooter on a rooftop which is where one would need to be to have the best angle....he had access to a really sloe rooftop that should have been a focal point of covering...I mean, they did have scope on him but that is not the same as being preventative and already having personnel on each of those neighboring rooftops...it's not like this was a major city where it might be impossible to cover every rooftop...this was an open field and looks like the only rooftop that wasn't covered....the snipers only took cover behind where trump was not in any of the buildings where the other rooftops were..there were only possibly 3 other rooftops exposed and the other 2 appear to be further away and both may not have had a shot anyway do to tree lines....seems like a poor set up to me
Yeah, I think attended rallies in fields inherently is a poor set up. From what I have seen of rooftop coverage, again we are talking am urban environment, dense with tall buildings, there are usually sniper teams everywhere . There isn't a team on every single building, but there is plenty of coverage. I don't think these guys have many blind spots but that's not to say they don't exist. Likewise, there are teams spread out all across downtown, covering his route from the hotel to whatever engagement he his attending. Again, I don't think these teams are all specifically secret service. Maybe none are. They are a mix of federal agents and local special weapons teams. When a sitting president is in town, there are literally FBI agents who dress like civilians and blend into public places. I'm talking places the president won't be anywhere near. They're literally just scoping the local scene. Maybe they overhear something.
All this is neither here nor there. We aren't talking about a sitting president. I don't know how many, counter sniper units are dispatched for a former president. I did hear that Trump is afforded extra resources given he is also a presidential candidate. There was no excuse for this. From what I saw of the site, they should've had their own teams on every roof but apparently that isn't protocol. I'm sure it will be going forward. The point i'm making is:
There are levels to secret service details, and Trump isn't the current president. And full details have a large contingency of local law enforcement. City and county. I don't know what level of support you're getting in that whistlestop town.
Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal.
March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated.
January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
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Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal.
March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated.
January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations. What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really. I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was. You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost.
Joe Biden and the Democrat Party conspired to conceal and decieve Americans concerning the validity of Hunter's laptop. The very bullshit charge NY found Trump guilty of, Joe Biden is the one who is guilty. He stated to all americans in the debate;
"There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan. They have said this is, has all the — four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except him and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.”
He lied, he knew that laptop was Hunter's. And what he said wasn't true. Nobody said it was "a Russian plan". And the media censored any talk of it.
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations. What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really. I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was. You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost.
Joe Biden and the Democrat Party conspired to conceal and decieve Americans concerning the validity of Hunter's laptop. The very bullshit charge NY found Trump guilty of, Joe Biden is the one who is guilty. He stated to all americans in the debate;
"There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan. They have said this is, has all the — four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except him and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.”
He lied, he knew that laptop was Hunter's. And what he said wasn't true. Nobody said it was "a Russian plan". And the media censored any talk of it.
Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal. March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated. January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
Cool so how many votes/ballots did each of these laws influence? Data, statistics? These are some vague rulings.
What happened to the ballots? How were they counted? Each one of these issues only helped Biden and did not help Trump? How do you know? This really does not explain anything with no numbers, no results, no indication of how many ballots were impacted.
This is really all you got to support the claim that the election was stolen? This is extremely weak as expected.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal. March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated. January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
Cool so how many votes/ballots did each of these laws influence? Data, statistics? These are some vague rulings.
What happened to the ballots? How were they counted? Each one of these issues only helped Biden and did not help Trump? How do you know? This really does not explain anything with no numbers, no results, no indication of how many ballots were impacted.
This is really all you got to support the claim that the election was stolen? This is extremely weak as expected.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations. What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really. I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was. You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost. Joe Biden and the Democrat Party conspired to conceal and decieve Americans concerning the validity of Hunter's laptop. The very bullshit charge NY found Trump guilty of, Joe Biden is the one who is guilty. He stated to all americans in the debate; "There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan. They have said this is, has all the — four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except him and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.” He lied, he knew that laptop was Hunter's. And what he said wasn't true. Nobody said it was "a Russian plan". And the media censored any talk of it.
Ok so concealing Hunter's laptop equates to the election being stolen?? Pretty weak again. Most citizens could not give 2 $hit's about cokehead Hunter Biden. House Republicans have found nothing on that laptop in relation to Joe Biden to even pursue him with charges or impeachment. Should tell you that was a big nothing burger to begin with. Still, not sure how a meaningless laptop means election was stolen. You people draw some weird conclusions.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: State officials admitted to violating their own election laws and protocols thst were installed. FBI had a laptop filled with information, in their possession for years and not only lied about it, had social media censor anything anti biden. Tons of evidence however whst judge wants the responsibility, it would have been political suicide, being known as person or people to have brought America down. Votes are to counted with all parties there not in a room with boarded up windows seen in several voting stations. What state officials? Names? Which states? What specific laws? Just a lot of rambling here without any specifics. Each of these violations only benefitted Biden huh? How many votes were impacted? Tons of evidence?? Not really. I would think at least one of the 63 judges would have ruled in Trump's favor, considering many were appointed by him. However, none did. Not sure how a laptop leads you to believe an election was stolen. Again, with MAGA it is all conjecture and zero facts. All based on feelings and whatever narrative you want to push. You did not cite one specific fact or detail that shows any votes being changed, manipulated, or recorded improperly to sway the election. Your $hit is all social media and My Pillow conspiracy theories, NO FACTS. All of this evidence and video should have been very easy to prove and verify in court, yet it never was. You and MAGA live in and stay in fantasyland. You and Sundance are completely lost. Joe Biden and the Democrat Party conspired to conceal and decieve Americans concerning the validity of Hunter's laptop. The very bullshit charge NY found Trump guilty of, Joe Biden is the one who is guilty. He stated to all americans in the debate; "There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan. They have said this is, has all the — four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except him and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.” He lied, he knew that laptop was Hunter's. And what he said wasn't true. Nobody said it was "a Russian plan". And the media censored any talk of it.
Ok so concealing Hunter's laptop equates to the election being stolen?? Pretty weak again. Most citizens could not give 2 $hit's about cokehead Hunter Biden. House Republicans have found nothing on that laptop in relation to Joe Biden to even pursue him with charges or impeachment. Should tell you that was a big nothing burger to begin with. Still, not sure how a meaningless laptop means election was stolen. You people draw some weird conclusions.
Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal. March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated. January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
What did Supreme Court rule in terms of election fraud or election being stolen??
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Jan, 2021; A Virginia Circuit judge has ruled that Virginia’s last-minute election rule change to allow mail-in ballots to arrive late without a postmark was illegal. March,2021; A judge has ruled that Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson violated state law last year when she issued “guidance” on how absentee ballots should be evaluated. January, 2022; A state court in Pennsylvania on Friday struck down the state’s landmark election law as unconstitutional, dealing a temporary blow to voting access in one of the nation’s most critical battleground states.
What did Supreme Court rule in terms of election fraud or election being stolen??
[Quote: Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper]Imagine you have so little regards for human life you find some poor kid who got picked on all the time in school and had very few friends if any at all to give up his life to make you look tough and make people have sympathy 4 you. There is no way trump got shot in the ear. It was shards of glass. I have unfortunately seen people get shot before and they were way younger then him and they arent getting up pumping their fists and mouthing fight fight fight. If that type of bullet hit him it would cause of massive damage in a variety of different ways and yet not even 48 hours later its like nothinh happened and hes bragging about his doctor saying he never saw anything this iconic before[/Quote]
This is true, your assessment of damage caused by "this type of bullet" is well documented in the following exhibit. For those of you who are ignorant to the dangers of the 5.56/.223 round, please see the following example of the damage that really would've been done to Mr. Trump had it been "real"....
https://x.com/MrJmezz/status/1812869841415503929
Thank you America
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper]Imagine you have so little regards for human life you find some poor kid who got picked on all the time in school and had very few friends if any at all to give up his life to make you look tough and make people have sympathy 4 you. There is no way trump got shot in the ear. It was shards of glass. I have unfortunately seen people get shot before and they were way younger then him and they arent getting up pumping their fists and mouthing fight fight fight. If that type of bullet hit him it would cause of massive damage in a variety of different ways and yet not even 48 hours later its like nothinh happened and hes bragging about his doctor saying he never saw anything this iconic before[/Quote]
This is true, your assessment of damage caused by "this type of bullet" is well documented in the following exhibit. For those of you who are ignorant to the dangers of the 5.56/.223 round, please see the following example of the damage that really would've been done to Mr. Trump had it been "real"....
Wait, are you guys still at this point stating this is a conspiracy
You got to be kidding me, right....
That video proves nothing....he was not hit with the bullet it grazed his ear...there is a big difference
The reporter from Virginia captured a photo of the bullet in air right after it went past Trump's head....I have not seen one instance of anyone out there indicating that the photo was doctored, even when this was first reported....
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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Wait, are you guys still at this point stating this is a conspiracy
You got to be kidding me, right....
That video proves nothing....he was not hit with the bullet it grazed his ear...there is a big difference
The reporter from Virginia captured a photo of the bullet in air right after it went past Trump's head....I have not seen one instance of anyone out there indicating that the photo was doctored, even when this was first reported....
It was staged.... Hollywood style. Figured they let an innocent Father get killed and two others severely wounded just to make it seem a little more like the movies.
It was staged.... Hollywood style. Figured they let an innocent Father get killed and two others severely wounded just to make it seem a little more like the movies.
I am pretty sure the family of the man who died (especially his daughters) don’t think any of this is fake. How low of a human being do you have to be to say something like that, whether you like Trump or not. That doesn’t excuse your ignorance or insensitivity to a family who is utterly gutted.
Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
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@JEG53
I am pretty sure the family of the man who died (especially his daughters) don’t think any of this is fake. How low of a human being do you have to be to say something like that, whether you like Trump or not. That doesn’t excuse your ignorance or insensitivity to a family who is utterly gutted.
Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
Well said sir
Thank you America
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@jesron1269
Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
Imagine you have so little regards for human life you find some poor kid who got picked on all the time in school and had very few friends if any at all to give up his life to make you look tough and make people have sympathy 4 you. There is no way trump got shot in the ear. It was shards of glass. I have unfortunately seen people get shot before and they were way younger then him and they arent getting up pumping their fists and mouthing fight fight fight. If that type of bullet hit him it would cause of massive damage in a variety of different ways and yet not even 48 hours later its like nothinh happened and hes bragging about his doctor saying he never saw anything this iconic before
This is true, your assessment of damage caused by "this type of bullet" is well documented in the following exhibit. For those of you who are ignorant to the dangers of the 5.56/.223 round, please see the following example of the damage that really would've been done to Mr. Trump had it been "real".... https://x.com/MrJmezz/status/1812869841415503929
B.C. talking about guns.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
Imagine you have so little regards for human life you find some poor kid who got picked on all the time in school and had very few friends if any at all to give up his life to make you look tough and make people have sympathy 4 you. There is no way trump got shot in the ear. It was shards of glass. I have unfortunately seen people get shot before and they were way younger then him and they arent getting up pumping their fists and mouthing fight fight fight. If that type of bullet hit him it would cause of massive damage in a variety of different ways and yet not even 48 hours later its like nothinh happened and hes bragging about his doctor saying he never saw anything this iconic before
This is true, your assessment of damage caused by "this type of bullet" is well documented in the following exhibit. For those of you who are ignorant to the dangers of the 5.56/.223 round, please see the following example of the damage that really would've been done to Mr. Trump had it been "real".... https://x.com/MrJmezz/status/1812869841415503929
@JEG53 I am pretty sure the family of the man who died (especially his daughters) don’t think any of this is fake. How low of a human being do you have to be to say something like that, whether you like Trump or not. That doesn’t excuse your ignorance or insensitivity to a family who is utterly gutted. Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
Zackly
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:
@JEG53 I am pretty sure the family of the man who died (especially his daughters) don’t think any of this is fake. How low of a human being do you have to be to say something like that, whether you like Trump or not. That doesn’t excuse your ignorance or insensitivity to a family who is utterly gutted. Honestly I am of the opinion that what is worst than a Trumper (or MAGA) is one who hates him so much that they lose any sense of humanity. There are too many people like that on this site and that is sad/scary.
Anyone that can support this GOP Party is a traitor to the Country, you talk about this guy's family and what maga did to that family was terrible, but trump and his followers killed on Jan.6 but that is ok because it really did not happen, you are just as dumb as the ones the Left find to put on UTUBE. Nothing about this party you believe in has anything to do with the American people, just about power for the people you all idolize for some reason.
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Anyone that can support this GOP Party is a traitor to the Country, you talk about this guy's family and what maga did to that family was terrible, but trump and his followers killed on Jan.6 but that is ok because it really did not happen, you are just as dumb as the ones the Left find to put on UTUBE. Nothing about this party you believe in has anything to do with the American people, just about power for the people you all idolize for some reason.
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staged. Where is that jackass who always comes after anyone who says sports is rigged. Think we need him here now. 
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