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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2016 - 2:26 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I wish you luck, but I would be astonished if you averaged a net profit of 2 units a week, and it is hard to imagine how anyone could live on $5,200 a year without consuming his betting bankroll.

    Tonight was little over a 3 Unit play on Clemson. I usually like to bet championship games for big. 

    However on a given night of NBA basketball, I might have 4-5 bets all $50 each. The greater the volume and volatility of the sport, the greater level of risk aversion I have. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    I wish you luck, but I would be astonished if you averaged a net profit of 2 units a week, and it is hard to imagine how anyone could live on $5,200 a year without consuming his betting bankroll.

    Tonight was little over a 3 Unit play on Clemson. I usually like to bet championship games for big. 

    However on a given night of NBA basketball, I might have 4-5 bets all $50 each. The greater the volume and volatility of the sport, the greater level of risk aversion I have. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2016 - 3:41 AM ET #77

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 
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    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2016 - 2:36 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    Great read. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    Great read. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 2:07 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by DaSaltySluG:


    Great read. 

    I appreciate that brother. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaSaltySluG:


    Great read. 

    I appreciate that brother. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 3:55 AM ET #80

    GL

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 9:25 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    Thanks for the great contribution, friend. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    Thanks for the great contribution, friend. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 9:42 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    So your suggestion is to do a do or die 15-1 shot, followed by "winning 2 units" every single week of the year?  This is the strategy to clear 50k in a year?  

    Jeesh.

    Look - I get it.  The guy is trying to make a living gambling on a 2500 bankroll.  It is silly to even go through the math to disprove the assumption that you can "make a living" betting 50 bucks a game.  But while your writeup sounds great - it is the equivalent on giving advice to win the lottery.  It will sound great - until you examine the underlying details and probabilities.

    First off, he needs to get past 15-1 odds on this four team accumulator you suggest.  OK.  Lets say he accomplishes this.

    Then he has to make 2 units profit every week of the year for 52 weeks.  OK.  A 60% gambler would have to pick 10 games a week every week of the year to turn 2 units of profit.  

    Lets be more realistic and assume he is a 55% gambler.  Then he would have to pick 20 games a week, every week, for 52 weeks.  And he would have to average 55% without ANY significant downturns for risk of losing his bankroll due to not being able to survive variance.

    It might sound like I am arguing with you - I am not - I think your post is well written with good intentions.  I just doubt this obviously naive person is in full understanding of the odds against him pulling off your plan.  But to be fair - I am not sure the odds are any longer than making a living on 50 dollar wagers either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalicious:

    I really think that you're going about this the wrong way. 

    If you want to be a successful and full time sports handicapper you should keep a day job. 

    Build a website, generate traffic to it, monetize it through product sales/advertisers and hopefully snowball from there. 

    If you are a winning capper (I'm not challenging the fact that you might be) then your results will generate interest. 

    Making $50 bets will not sustain you. If you absolutely insist on gambling the $2500 and making your way up from there the only way to do this is to go all in. 

    [2500 * (100/120)] + 2500 = ~4583
    [4583 * (100/120)] + 4583 = ~8402
    [8402 * (100/120)] + 8402 = ~15404
    [15404 * (100/120)] +15404 = ~28242

    With a bankroll of $28000 and a unit size of 2% (you are currently using 2%) you would be working with a unit size of $560.

    This is enough money to sustain a legitimate income assuming you are able to be +2 units each week you would be making around $1000+ each week and a salary of $52000/year.

    In all honesty these numbers may seem absurd but all you have to do is win 4 picks in a row at a -120 chance or less. This is perfectly within the realm of possibilities. 

    So your suggestion is to do a do or die 15-1 shot, followed by "winning 2 units" every single week of the year?  This is the strategy to clear 50k in a year?  

    Jeesh.

    Look - I get it.  The guy is trying to make a living gambling on a 2500 bankroll.  It is silly to even go through the math to disprove the assumption that you can "make a living" betting 50 bucks a game.  But while your writeup sounds great - it is the equivalent on giving advice to win the lottery.  It will sound great - until you examine the underlying details and probabilities.

    First off, he needs to get past 15-1 odds on this four team accumulator you suggest.  OK.  Lets say he accomplishes this.

    Then he has to make 2 units profit every week of the year for 52 weeks.  OK.  A 60% gambler would have to pick 10 games a week every week of the year to turn 2 units of profit.  

    Lets be more realistic and assume he is a 55% gambler.  Then he would have to pick 20 games a week, every week, for 52 weeks.  And he would have to average 55% without ANY significant downturns for risk of losing his bankroll due to not being able to survive variance.

    It might sound like I am arguing with you - I am not - I think your post is well written with good intentions.  I just doubt this obviously naive person is in full understanding of the odds against him pulling off your plan.  But to be fair - I am not sure the odds are any longer than making a living on 50 dollar wagers either.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 10:06 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

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    Summarized by:
    - Too difficult to hit 4 in a row.
    - Too difficult to cap +2 units each week.

    I think winning 4 picks in a row is not as difficult as you think. Of course the odds are not favorable, but it is very possible. I mean think about it... 4 picks. That's really not that many.

    Also, I think if you're spending your life gambling then 20 picks a week is also pretty reasonable. If you can cap NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL you should easily be making 20 picks a week on average. That's only a little bit shy of 3 picks a day.

    I'm not saying the path ahead is easy, but really, I don't believe the odds are any more satcked against him than they would be in another profession.
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    Summarized by:
    - Too difficult to hit 4 in a row.
    - Too difficult to cap +2 units each week.

    I think winning 4 picks in a row is not as difficult as you think. Of course the odds are not favorable, but it is very possible. I mean think about it... 4 picks. That's really not that many.

    Also, I think if you're spending your life gambling then 20 picks a week is also pretty reasonable. If you can cap NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL you should easily be making 20 picks a week on average. That's only a little bit shy of 3 picks a day.

    I'm not saying the path ahead is easy, but really, I don't believe the odds are any more satcked against him than they would be in another profession.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 10:07 PM ET #84

    Damn, I accidentally put part of my post inside the quotations.

    My post begins with, "I think winning 4 picks [...]"

    Sorry for any confusion.
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    Damn, I accidentally put part of my post inside the quotations.

    My post begins with, "I think winning 4 picks [...]"

    Sorry for any confusion.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 10:35 PM ET #85

    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.

    "Bet the farm!" "GO WHERE THE MONEY IS!"
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    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 11:13 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by jimc0911:

    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.


    Awesome man. Make sure we can get a piece of the winnings 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimc0911:

    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.


    Awesome man. Make sure we can get a piece of the winnings 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2016 - 11:50 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Just put it all on a 4 teamer and try to make $25-$30K then go from there.  Won't be able to make a living betting $50 a game.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Just put it all on a 4 teamer and try to make $25-$30K then go from there.  Won't be able to make a living betting $50 a game.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2016 - 12:16 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by jimc0911:

    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.


    Sorry buddy, looks like we'll have to hit the powerball next time. Don't worry, with my plays hopefully we'll put those powerball winnings to shame. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimc0911:

    I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AFTER I WIN THE POWERBALL TONIGHT, I WILL BECOME A PRO AT DOING NOTHING, AND STILL BE A RECREATIONAL BETTOR.


    Sorry buddy, looks like we'll have to hit the powerball next time. Don't worry, with my plays hopefully we'll put those powerball winnings to shame. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 1:21 AM ET #89

    I wanna get these bad boys in ASAP before the lines shift.

    Love the dogs in all the games. Spreads seem to be a bit pumped up.

    Chiefs +5

    Steelers +7

    Packers +7

    Seahawks +2
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    I wanna get these bad boys in ASAP before the lines shift.

    Love the dogs in all the games. Spreads seem to be a bit pumped up.

    Chiefs +5

    Steelers +7

    Packers +7

    Seahawks +2
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 10:38 PM ET #90

    Green Bay and Seattle are your straight up doggie winners.
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    Green Bay and Seattle are your straight up doggie winners.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2016 - 12:11 AM ET #91

    Agreed gents. 
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    Agreed gents. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2016 - 11:43 PM ET #92

    1-1, but I tripled my units on Green Bay. KC was a stupid pick  but I had to make it because I always bet an inflated spread no matter what.


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    1-1, but I tripled my units on Green Bay. KC was a stupid pick  but I had to make it because I always bet an inflated spread no matter what.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 4:43 AM ET #93

    0-1-1 on Sunday. On to the next day gents
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 4:57 AM ET #94

    GL
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 5:03 AM ET #95

    Go back to work you have no clue 
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    Go back to work you have no clue 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 12:59 PM ET #96

    Id ignore most of what you read on here. Ive supplemented my income gaming the last 4ish years. Not sure if you have a "team" in any particular sport, but if you do...avoid those games and try to look at games youre not emotionally invested in. 

    I started with a bankroll of $1K making $25 bets at a time and have managed to cash out at least $7500 annually while leaving $1K in at the end of MLB (my best sport by a mile) and start of NFL/NBA. 

    My advice is to ride your hot streaks, take breaks when youre on skids, and remember to treat betting as a job and not a hobby (my biggest problem during football season).

    Also, make sure to not worry about posting all of your plays. The hours you'll spend doing it can seriously eat into your research time.

    Lastly, for MLB find Grey Albright and use the tools (thats all I gotta say about that). 

    GL man
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    Id ignore most of what you read on here. Ive supplemented my income gaming the last 4ish years. Not sure if you have a "team" in any particular sport, but if you do...avoid those games and try to look at games youre not emotionally invested in. 

    I started with a bankroll of $1K making $25 bets at a time and have managed to cash out at least $7500 annually while leaving $1K in at the end of MLB (my best sport by a mile) and start of NFL/NBA. 

    My advice is to ride your hot streaks, take breaks when youre on skids, and remember to treat betting as a job and not a hobby (my biggest problem during football season).

    Also, make sure to not worry about posting all of your plays. The hours you'll spend doing it can seriously eat into your research time.

    Lastly, for MLB find Grey Albright and use the tools (thats all I gotta say about that). 

    GL man
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2016 - 2:22 AM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

    Go back to work you have no clue 

    You sound like my ex-wife. Hell, you might be my ex-wife. Babe, I'm living my dream here. Let a guy live, will ya?

    Anyway, early lean for the championship games: Broncos +any number. Really think this is the year Manning rides off into the sunset with his final ring. 
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    Go back to work you have no clue 

    You sound like my ex-wife. Hell, you might be my ex-wife. Babe, I'm living my dream here. Let a guy live, will ya?

    Anyway, early lean for the championship games: Broncos +any number. Really think this is the year Manning rides off into the sunset with his final ring. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2016 - 2:25 AM ET #98

    Ok guys here are the final picks for the games this weekend:

    Cards +3

    Broncos +4  

    Let's get it 
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    Ok guys here are the final picks for the games this weekend:

    Cards +3

    Broncos +4  

    Let's get it 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2016 - 2:38 PM ET #99

    1-1 on the weekend. Denver was one of my biggest plays in a long time so that helps, Cards deserved to get smoked.

    Early lean is Denver in the superbowl ATS. 
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    1-1 on the weekend. Denver was one of my biggest plays in a long time so that helps, Cards deserved to get smoked.

    Early lean is Denver in the superbowl ATS. 
     
     
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