"Stolen Valor"

@Biscuiteater

Yeah ok,you are right nobody is talking about this situation.lmao

Bottom line, both sides are less then desirable.

I had to switch parties,this is not Democratic party I grew up with.

@Biscuiteater1

Valid point

The party system is fucking us and no one is doing anything about it...each just let's the other lie and defile its citizens...our government needs a ctl+alt+del sumptin fierce before the people have enough and tey some Tom foolery 

@Biscuiteater1 "It's even safer to say it's not the Republican party we grew up with either."  It's now known as a UNI-PARTY 

 @ABooksNightmare  Bingo 

@benhogan76

 So fucking true...I've been staring this and firmly believe that...not the way it should be...

First step is getting BIG MONEY outta the system. IMO 

@Midnight1

kc

I look forward to your additional reports.

https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/harris-picks-walz-103865237/11

Where you at Darkness ??  Figured you might be the one real Veteran to at least call out this POS..... 

kc, I have a hard time knocking a vet that spent 24 years serving our country.

I am disturbed reading what you have provided & if all is true, it's disheartening but will not change my vote. Almost every Friday morning, I go fishing with 3 other vets. We were all sick to our stomachs trying to decide truth from lies. The conversation left us more confused than before our fishing trip. Even the beers we had later didn't help clarify things. However, our resolve hasn't changed.

The POS can never again have a position of power in this country.

I hope you are not referring to me as not "a real" Vet. But I can assure you Guardsmen stick with Guardsmen usually but my fellow Guardsmen this is making circles with are not supporting Walz and frankly it makes me sick that someone would some how not see the difference in abandoning your post to dodging the draft. Both are horrible yes agreed. Trump isn't exactly a man I would prefer to support. But leaving your men possible in harms way is unforgivable. Despite Midnight calling me a joke my unit and his unit are separated by literally 200 miles. I have many mutual connections. I will talk to someone who served under him soon. I am certain he was not well liked or respected. But if that isn't the case maybe just maybe I will give Walz another look despite how much I hate how he drove Minnesota into the ground.

@jesron1269

 Yeah he abandoned his post by retiring after 24 years.

How to say you don't get it without actually saying you don't get it. Congrats Biscuiteater1!

@Biscuiteater1

 It's not so munch the abandonment issue, but rather the timing of it as to when he decided to retire based on when his unit got the word to deploy...there seems to be some information or misinformation out there that he did indeed file for his retirement before the deployment order was issued and then there are those who were in his unit that are saying to eh contrary...if his unit feels he abandoned them because they got the order to deploy then that's hard to swallow as those guys would have trained to be deployed and then they would say he chickened out or deserted them...

The issues or concern is that of his rank and what he had out there as his bio on the net and then was subsequently changed once he was given the nod...

There is no question the man served and for the length of time specified, but there is an unspoken oath these guys take once their unit is constructed and they are to have each other's back....if you leave your unit once an order to deploy is issued then it does and will have it's effect on the entire unit as to your integrity as a man...it doesn't negate his service rendered and that is not an issue at all, but if he bailed on his unit once orders to deploy were issued that does tell you what kind of man he is...if it is legitimate that he filed for retirement before the orders to deploy were given then you cannot fault him for that...

This is all a timing issue it seems and the fact he over ranked himself which not sure why....but he did serve 24 years and that cannot and should not be taken away from him...at least this is how I see it

Or maybe the men he trained see someone who made a career change and wished him luck.I'm sure there are people who do not like him just as there are people who don't like Christmas.He left, someone took his place.Apparently his decision to go into politics was the right one as it has worked out well for him. To hear some tell it what he is accused of is akin to turning and high tailing it as bullets were flying and that's the picture they want to paint. 

@Biscuiteater1

You really don’t get it. Re-read what ABN again. Then think if it was your brother serving under the command of someone with first sign of combat high tails it out of harms way. That is what is being said. I am sure there will be some testimonials directly about it soon. If you can’t get that then you really are just a party stollie and you provide no substance. 

@jesron1269

 I seriously doubt any solider could give a fuck if any of his superiors retired months before possible action or deployment.

@Biscuiteater1

You are dead wrong. Dead wrong. Great assumption. You know what they say about assumptions. Congrats you just proved it. 

@ABooksNightmare

 I agree with what you said, however it was Jerson who did in fact make a abandonment an issue. I suggest it is he who should reread your post, this time slowly. 

Lol said like a real dumbass. You really just keep one upping your lack of IQ. It’s frankly embarrassing. Do yourself a favor and STFU as you are out of your depth.  

@jesron1269

 I hope you are not referring to me as not "a real" Vet.

No, not at all, you were the only real Veteran to previously comment on that POS stolen valor f-stick.  Thank you for your service and keep up the good fight sir 

@Midnight1

 I am disturbed reading what you have provided & if all is true, it's disheartening but will not change my vote.

Lord knows you won't be changing any "vote".  That is something even I would never expect, you are a "never Trumper", wouldn't matter if the DNC ran out a dead body (whoops already did that and changed their mind for 2024) you would be voting for the empty egg shell over the big bad Orange Man.  These little trivial matters do not mean much to me, BUT, the stolen valor POS stuff does.  That is one of the lowest of the lows forms of an American.  

By the way, "provided if all is true" is a joke.  The accounts in the cesspool sub thread are all 1st person accounts from people he served with.  His Chaplain for christ sakes.  The Commanding officer that took over for him when he bailed on his unit.  There is no funny business from these Veterans who have spoke out.  I noticed you were silent in that other thread so I'm guessing it's OK with you.  10/4 I hear you, I'll leave it alone from here....