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Posted: #26
Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

@suuma

I'm a firm believer that all American sports are rigged from college level up. That includes college football/basketball, minor leagues, NBA, NFL, MLB heck even NHL (although I've never watched a second of ice hockey in my life).

Sports fixing in football (yes, I'll call it football) is rampant in Europe - you should know.

However I will not participate in this childish back-and-forth cursing/abusing discussion. It is obvious from this thread that BetFriends is a 15 year old child.

You either believe in your theory or you don't.

Peace.

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12/11/15

Excuses, not more. You proved my assumption and remembering your last few pre-game "advice" which went like 0-5 (correct me if I am wrong) tells me you are afraid because you know your big talk would probably come down to earth.

If this is too childish for you, I can open a new thread with nothing more but serious talk about the rules. That would be okay for you?

The point is, you guys are talking and talking but no one keeps providing this forum with real predictions and tracked records. We have guys who have 60-70% records who keep saying there is no fix and stuff like Nickel Bets but you guys dont have one. It would be a good study for all of us and to support the discussion. I don't wanna see certain guys like you losing, I just wanna get a trial/study about this question.

If you believe in your theory, it shouldnt be an issue to make a case here. Everything else shows that you are afraid and don't believe in it yourself.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

@suuma

I'm a firm believer that all American sports are rigged from college level up. That includes college football/basketball, minor leagues, NBA, NFL, MLB heck even NHL (although I've never watched a second of ice hockey in my life).


If you think minor league baseball is fixed, then you need to get yourself some help.     
 
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

I think this is actually a very good idea and I would love to see guys who always talk about rigged/fixed stuff posting their scripted picks here with tracking their records starting at 0-0.

I think it's a good idea also...I just want BetFriends to man up, show some nads and put his money where his obnoxious mouth is.  Otherwise, why do this for free?  There's a reason I personally don't start threads. I have no need to have followers, and I definately have no interest in dealing with the haters, trolls, idiots etc.  Now if there was some serious money to be made, for sure, i'll put up with the stupidity. 


These gentlemen like fadeORdie are definitely reading this thread so let's see whether they stand up for their talk or not.

And if you say "I won't contribute to this childish thread", it's a lame excuse, because you guys spend so much time defending your theories with long comments in other threads with the same intention. So posting your "fixed" picks on here just takes a minute of time and you can prove us wrong.

@naesiy: You know a capper on covers who posts a winning percentage "HIGHER" than most but you don't want to post his name? WTF?! That's way more "rubbish" than this thread.

Just to clarify, I didn't say higher than most.  For the most part, all the good cappers here have very similar winning percentages and saying one is better than the other is close to splitting hairs.  My assertion is to directly dispute BetFriends claim that all cappers to believe in the "fix" are losers and don't hold a candle to other cappers who DON'T believe the "fix".  Further, why is withholding the name rubbish?  Why divulge my winning play before BetFriends agrees to the wager?  That would be a "bad bet" if I ever seen one, don't you think buddy?  Lastly, I'd rather not involve others unnecessarily.  This was between me and BetFriends and I offered to take on his challenge myself and post the picks.  But he already is backtracking and deflecting so... 

The rules can be so simple: You just post your picks on games you think are rigged/fixed, give a short information (just a sentence) of why you think it will be fixed and that's it.

Here you go guys, stand to your big talk and prove your theory
 
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Posted: #29
Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

@suuma


However I will not participate in this childish back-and-forth cursing/abusing discussion. It is obvious from this thread that BetFriends is a 15 year old child.





12/11/15

Interestingly, that's exactly why I called him out in the first place on this supposed "PROOF" that there is no fixing going on.  His childish out burst every time a "fix" thread popped up began to rub me the wrong way.  Whether you stand by the "fix" or strongly believe sports are on the up and up, both arguments are pure conjecture and one side has no more justification than the other and surely has no right to denigrate and spew vulgarities towards the other.
 
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Posted: #30
Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


We've already covered the separate discussion you've been trying to create. I won't repeat myself a 5th time. 

As for not divulging your plays before there's a bet involved, that's a backtracking coward speaking. The guys who don't believe in fixed games are posting all their plays publicly, and are accountable for their records. You're just hot air until you have a YTD to prove your theory.

And speaking of records that 'prove' fixes, you might want to try and pay careful attention to the next post, dumbass.

I won't be responding to your attempts to move the goalposts again. Anyone who reads our convo history knows what I said, where you jumped in, and how you've created this whole idea of wager yourself.

A bit like how rigtards record history... creatively.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:



why cant he be named??he's already freely posting picks on a public forum so wats the big deal??

See above response to Suuma.  

in any case one solitary season is obviously a tiny,tiny sample that doesnt go to show much either way so theres that...

Exactly.  Again, this all started because BetFriends said there is PROOF that there is no fix.  I simply asked what proof is that?  It's hilarious that he even started this thread.  Even if he manned up and accepted my wager and I proceeded to show profit by picking out shady games, what does that really prove?

 
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More diversion and insults. What a surprise.

It's not up to us to prove a negative. You say it exists, we say it doesn't. But since you guys wanna keep going...

If all sports are rigged, then guys like you should be hitting at 100%.  How can you lose when a game is fixed? 

Phixer, the champion of 'NFL is rigged', posted in suuma's thread:

in order to give some weight to your opinions regarding the topic in discussion - why don't each one of you also attach at the bottom of your post your record? may be that way the innocent bystander reader stumbling up on this thread can rightly evaluate the opinions posted and if what is posted as an opinion also holds the water

phixer  44-29-2 nfl   +11120$

7-5 ncaaf  +700$

0-1 nba   -550$

+11270$

Nickel-Bets, who says it's all BS, then replied:

Good point.

My 2015 record:

58-28 (67%)

+$15,146 for +37% return on investment


And then went on to trash rigged and consensus thought.

I haven't altered a single number. Go see for yourself.

Phixer says sports are rigged.

He is 51-35 on the year for 59%

Nickel-Bets says sports aren't rigged.

He is 58-28 on the year for for 67%

By happy coincidence, both samples are exactly 86 games, so an even comparison.

How are games are rigged if the guy who knows their rigged 
wins less than the guy who doesn't know?
Accuse me of backing out of a wager that existed only in your own posts again. Change the subject another 10 times.OR, you know.. surprise us with actually addressing facts for once.
 
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Posted: #33
Quote: Originally Posted by BetFriends]

Umm, I'll do what you guys do? Ignore everything that proves me wrong and just focus on the 1-2 examples that prove my crazy theory?
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I asked a simple question to this statement of yours saying the "fix" guys ignore the proof that the fix doesn't exist.  That question was, what proof?  Something you STILL have not been able to answer.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


If you reply with this same made-up stupid garbage again, and ignore the above post, you've clowned yourself and we're done here.

I never said there was proof of anything. I said you CAN'T prove a negative, and you don't have to. I said you CAN'T prove fixes exist until you start tracking it properly, not picking and choosing which results you boast about.

You came up with the idea of pointless wager that I never ever responded to, and it's the only thing you've got now.. trying to twist what I said and trying to pretend I'm welching on a bet.

Anyone can go back and look at the chat history, so you're just a clown. If you want to embarrass me, start a thread where you track every shady play you identify this year. Don't girl out and pretend you're not doing it because money isn't involved. If I'm such a tool, you should be happy to embarrass me. And if fixes are real, you have nothing to fear.

So go on, give it a try. Maybe you'll hit better than your god of fixes above. And if you won't, and if you go and ignore my post above, and if you try coming with that lame wager argument again, you'll have exposed yourself to everyone else in this thread.

Until I see an explanation of why the rigged expert hits at a worse rate than a guy who says you guys are wrong, we're done here.
 
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Posted: #35
I'm actually glad I started this thread, even though I was pissed off at the time.

naesiy and fadeORdie have done an excellent job of what I was trying to show all along.

Thanks, guys 
 
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Posted: #36
Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:


We've already covered the separate discussion you've been trying to create. I won't repeat myself a 5th time. 

Deflect, misdirect, ignore...good job.

As for not divulging your plays before there's a bet involved, that's a backtracking coward speaking. 

says the guy afraid to make a wager.

The guys who don't believe in fixed games are posting all their plays publicly, and are accountable for their records. You're just hot air until you have a YTD to prove your theory.


And speaking of records that 'prove' fixes, you might want to try and pay careful attention to the next post, dumbass.

I won't be responding to your attempts to move the goalposts again. Anyone who reads our convo history knows what I said, where you jumped in, and how you've created this whole idea of wager yourself.

Actually, YOU made the challenge to me to do a years worth of picks based on the "fix" and a record to back it up.  I said sure, let's put some money on it.  Of course, as soon as I brought money up, you deflected and ignored like you continue to do.  No worries bud, all talk, no action.  It's cool, it's the internet man.

A bit like how rigtards record history... creatively.

This was your IMMEDIATE reply to me asking you for the "Proof" you claim to exist of games not being fixed.

Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:


The burden of proof isn't on the community, it's on the person making the claims. You're the prosecution. Like people who believe in God. The Onus is on YOU to prove he exists, not on us to prove a negative,

We say there's nothing there. You say there is. Prove it with a year's worth of predictions based off 'the obvious fix' and a record to back it up.

Not a single person who believes the NFL is rigged has done this. I wonder why?

Can I eat some popcorn while I wait too, you fukin smug idiot?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


I asked a simple question to this statement of yours saying the "fix" guys ignore the proof that the fix doesn't exist.  That question was, what proof?  Something you STILL have not been able to answer.

Post #32. If you still don't see it, there's nothing more anyone can do.
 
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Posted: #38
Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


This was your IMMEDIATE reply to me asking you for the "Proof" you claim to exist of games not being fixed.


Again, Post #32 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


I asked a simple question to this statement of yours saying the "fix" guys ignore the proof that the fix doesn't exist.  That question was, what proof?  Something you STILL have not been able to answer.

Post #32, McFly. 

I've given you exactly what you asked for. Stop pretending I haven't. More more misdirection and subject changes. No more tough guy wager challenges instead of reasoned response.

It's there for all with a brain to see.
 
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I bet this idiot still comes back with garbage. 

'But I challenged you to a bet, brooooo, and you didn't take it brooo'

'Where's the evidence, man?? I simply asked for evidence???'

I tell you what is a good wager. This mong will look at that empirical evidence and still try to save face Wouldn't be the first time a rigtard didn't let facts get in the way of an argument.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:




And then went on to trash rigged and consensus thought.

I haven't altered a single number. Go see for yourself.

Phixer says sports are rigged.

He is 51-35 on the year for 59%

Nickel-Bets says sports aren't rigged.

He is 58-28 on the year for for 67%

By happy coincidence, both samples are exactly 86 games, so an even comparison.

How are games are rigged if the guy who knows their rigged 
wins less than the guy who doesn't know?
Accuse me of backing out of a wager that existed only in your own posts again. Change the subject another 10 times.OR, you know.. surprise us with actually addressing facts for once.

Do you realize how dumb of an argument you are making?  Nickel Bets doesn't believe in the fix and he's profitable therefore there isn't a fix?    LOL.  That's like a dude saying well, I don't rape girls and I still get laid so that must mean no girls ever get raped.    

I hope there is never an instance where something really important (like someones life) hangs in the balance based on your ability to "prove" something.    Please don't become an attorney, and if you are/will be, do corporate law or something, alright?
 
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And still he ges 

Absolute clowns 

We're getting dumber the longer we talk to them 

I think I've repeated the same facts enough 

Any other pathetic word-twisting reply you have for me, naesiy, you can find the reply in Post #32

Goodnight, moron 

 
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post 41 bro.  try again with your "proof" of no fix.
 
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well, we can leave it up to the community on whether your post proves there is no fix.  So what say everyone?

1.  Nickel Bets is profitable and doesn't believe in the fix.
2.  Phixer is profitable and does believe in the fix.
3.  Nickel bets has a better record than Phixer.
4.  Therefore, that's proof there are no fixed games in the NFL.

Seems legit.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

@melossinglet

Please return when you have learned how to write proper English.
Do you not realize your choice of language only makes you look foolish but likely confirms you are also not more than 15 years old?





hahaha,thats right douche-bag...keep dodging and evading and deflecting,any thing to avoid the topic at hand...wat a flippin retard you are...come on,you cudnt POSSIBLY worsen your reputation in any way....with a lifetime posting record of around 10% the only way is up,right??
youre a liar and an idiot,the only one looking like a 15 year old is the one looking at you in the mirror...


"proper" english.....feckin weasal
 
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@suuma

There must be a misunderstanding. There is a huge difference between believing that the game is fixed and KNOWING which game is fixed.

I make statements like "I have the script" and "transaction complete" but these are troll statements just to make things fun and stir you guys up (which it obviously is, according to this thread).

Truly, if anyone had the real script would they be sharing their golden ticket with a bunch of degenerates in this forum?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

@suuma

There must be a misunderstanding. There is a huge difference between believing that the game is fixed and KNOWING which game is fixed.




I was gonna say just as much to BetFriends in response to his "why aren't people hitting at 90-100%" query....but didn't want to incite the kid into another tantrum.  There's so much flawed logic in his posts it's comical. 
 
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yep,to play devils advocate it is absurd to expect anyone to hit 80%+...there are many that cry fix here but i have yet to see one who claims to know the exact details of every single"pre-determined" result befor-hand(they mainly just look at the outcome of the game they just lost and figure out their own deductive reasoning from there,hehe)......so to expect anyone to hit 100% is silly obviously......now if sumone believes they have a general idea of the way things are "supposed" to pan out,according to their own observations over a long time,then it it reasonable to ask them to show and prove by hitting at a solid winning rate.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

yep,to play devils advocate it is absurd to expect anyone to hit 80%+...there are many that cry fix here but i have yet to see one who claims to know the exact details of every single"pre-determined" result befor-hand(they mainly just look at the outcome of the game they just lost and figure out their own deductive reasoning from there,hehe)......so to expect anyone to hit 100% is silly obviously......now if sumone believes they have a general idea of the way things are "supposed" to pan out,according to their own observations over a long time,then it it reasonable to ask them to show and prove by hitting at a solid winning rate.


I believe some games are manipulated but Im not going to pretend I have a script or first hand knowledge before the game. I have watched thousands of games in my lifetime so there is nothing new that happens in these games. They are played exactly the same time after time. I am not gifted in making picks or capping the games but I do see certain things unfold during the game that leads me to believe the fix is in.

I had the under first half and game last night and had one person tell me, I was a FG away from going 1-1. I told him the under was never in doubt from the beginning of the game. I could see it unfold with the first drive and throughout the game. The last possession the Vikings had was never going to result in anything other than a turnover or missed FG. That is the bottom line. While watching the game I can see the same things happen in certain games just by the way its being played. The play calling, the officiating etc.

When KC played Denver in week 2 the last drive by KC was never going to result in anything other than a turnover returned for a TD. I text my brother since we both had Denver +3 and he was saying we would lose. I told him nothing to fear. The turnover will come because the game couldnt end on 3. It wasnt going to OT. That was impossible.

Im not here saying Im the best at reading a game and can guarantee winners live betting. Im just saying some games are easy to see what will happen during the game. I dont believe for a minute that millions of dollars are just left up to coin flips and that the best team wins. Things are done for TV ratings.

The best excuse people come up with are that there are too many people keeping quiet. Ok so in the 80's when Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Superfly Snuka and Rowdy Roddy Piper were wrestling in front of thousands knowing full well they were going by the script, not a soul ever came out during that time and said it was all BS. Why? Why wouldnt they stop acting and write a book or during their interviews say we are going by a script instead of just keeping their mouths shut?
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:

With all the crowing about tonight's game, and all the trolling that has turned this into a place where 1 actual capper is outnumbered by 15 rigtards, it's high time we put this BS to the test.

No more bumping threads when 'fixes' come through, and running away from every other thread when it doesn't. 

No more making it up as you go along and selective hindsight records.

If games get fixed, and it's so obvious to wolfs of wall street here, then it can tracked and proven. A fix is a fix, right? It's absolute.

So here we go. Post your 'fixed' picks in here each week, and we'll see what sort of long-term advantage the NFL script is giving you guys.

Realistically, you should go 100%. A fix is a fix, right? But we'll just pretend that's not a problem of logic for now.

"But I'm not a numbers nerd, I just know I win more than I lose" -Prove it.

"Trust me, I know a bookie, if you bet against public, you almost never lose". - Prove it.

"I'm up heaps fading you sheeples all year, easy $$$" -Prove it.

"We can't do this. The NFL or Vegas will catch on" - Bullshit, You''re posting these 'obvious fixes' every week already. 

I'll even give you the Vikings and Under tonight. Now let's track you tinfoil hat guys to prove this absolute truth exists. It's a bit late in the year but we'll let this thread run into next year, as well, if anyone has the balls to actually start proving their theory. 

Hardcore conspiracy nuts still wont give up their belief no matte what happens. That's the beauty of irrational belief. But this might help out any otherwise rational people who've been lured into this ridiculous church of smug trolls.

So..

Rigtards: 2-0

my god, get over yourself. 
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