This is what happens when you allow Dr. Fauci and Democrats to destroy your life

This election has been investigate, audited, scrutinized, ect. probably more than any election in the history of United States politics. It doesn't matter how may people, members of both political parties, says it's legit. Sore losers will always cry foul. There's probably an Aesop fable that deals with this. Next thing Trump is going to say the grapes are probably sour and he didn't really want them in the first place. I'm not a Trump basher and was actually a supporter for most of his presidency but the way he has acted post election just proves he should not be President. How many times has he played golf in the past few weeks? He's still the damn President but we're talking about a man that seem incapable of giving a damn about anyone but himself.

You are still alive and posting insanity so I guess "the democrats" didnt destroy it---Dr Fauci is trying to save everyones life, period with zero political affiliation attached but thats not as fun for you as your fevered conspiracies

@StumpTownStu

 I’m not a religious guy but did you really say “Science doesn’t say life begins at conception?”

Youre obviously not a father. If you’ve ever had the joy of hearing the heart beat or feeling a kick you would know damn well your baby is alive well before delivery.

And besides Science absolutely says life begins at conception! Life begins at fertilization with the embryo’s conception. Dumbest thing you’ve said in awhile

@Doja45

 I am a father. And i'm making fun of those people who say shit like, "Life begins at conception" which sounds like some shit you'd see on a $20 key chain at a mega church. Your bouncing baby ain't kicking and doesn't have a heart to beat at conception. It's just a fertilized egg. And sadly, I hate even saying this, but some babies aren't meant to be brought into this world.

It doesn't. And I pretty much never say dumb shit. Even the things I say in jest are witty, well formed thoughts.

Actually it does. The development of a mammal begins with fertilization. Now if you want to argue when that fertilized egg is actually a human being than fine. But don’t change basic biology to fit your narrative.

And damn you love you some you don’t ya

Life and development are two different things. If we want to get into what biologically constitutes life then that becomes a slippery slope. Is the load some incel shoots into a sock "life"? Sperm literally has auto mobility and carries genetic code. Is the unfertilized egg that bleeds out "life"? If you want to get into the science of reproduction, we can go down that rabbit hole. To you realize that it is now possible to take arbitrary cells, skin cells for example, scrapings of skin, and grow stem cells from them? Then take those stem cells and turn them into eggs. I shit you not. At what point does life really begin? When more and more of reproduction becomes lab based, at what point will lives be beginning? I'm not saying life begins when a baby is crying for a teet. I'm simply saying that this "Life begins at conception" notion is utter nonsense. It's able to be validly argued, sure, but nonsense none the less.

As far as me loving myself, well, love is a strong word. I don't have some over-inflated ego. I don't think of myself as being above others. I don't put my feelings or my needs ahead of that of my family and friends. I'm pretty damn selfless but I don't hate myself either. Yes, I think i'm pretty much the shit. I come by it honestly. It's takes hard work to be me. I think the real issue is it's easier for you to hurl passive aggressive insults than simply engage in conversation with someone in an online forum with whom you've never really had a beef. Says more about you than me.

A bunch of hot air in the first paragraph. I don’t have the time or desire to go down the reproduction rabbit hole with you but if life doesnt start at conception and it doesn’t start when the baby goes for the teet as you say, then when does it start? Everything has a beginning and an end. So what’s your definition of life’s beginning? You have no problem telling me I’m wrong but won’t tell me what’s correct. Sounds like a lot of the guys in the political forum these days.

And I’m quite aware of how you feel about yourself. You’re the only one poster I see talking about how witty and sexy they are to a forum full of degenerate men. I think that says plenty about you

You like to say “ I call out bullshit when I see it” and it’s one of the things I respect about you but I gots to call out arrogance when I see it

I think its arrogant that men believe they have the right to rule woman when it comes to childbirth.

I agree. That’s why I never mentioned anything about abortion pal

@Doja45

 When life begins is debatable. Some would argue in the fetal stage. Some would argue when the fetus is viable. I personally believe it begins in the embryonic stage but at conception... It's anyone's right to make that argument. I just personally think that, scientifically, it's a bullshit argument. So when does life begin in invitro fertilization?

As far as me thinking that i'm sexy, where did I even say that? I do think i'm sexy, I work out, so i'm not denying I said it. I just don't recall when. It definitely wasn't in this thread. And if I did, I can just about guarantee that it was tongue in cheek. That's just not some shit I would say with sincerity.

@Doja45

 As a matter of fact, reading back over your posts, it's clear you don't even know what the hell you are talking about. Your posts are contradictory and convoluted and it seems like the only reason you responded is because you have some hair up your ass for me. A total stranger.

No one is going to win this pissing contest fellas 

Fair enough Packers

Stu, contradictory and convoluted? Care to elaborate?

Contradictory- You mentioned to Biscuit that you never said anything about abortion. As if abortion didn't factor into your point but what you were responding to was entirely about abortion. Thus all of your responses were on the topic of abortion. If this wasn't your intention, than what was? As I said, I think you just have a hair up your as for me, I guess for apparently calling myself sexy at some point that I didn't even remember but you clearly did.

Convoluted- You're talking about how life begins with an embryo's conception but an embryo isn't even an embryo at conception. It's just a ball of dividing cells, bro. You're talking about feeling kicks and hearing heart beats but there ain't no kicks at conception, bro. There's no heart beats either. Just rapidly dividing cells. And in a sense, yes, even those dividing cells are life. They are the start of life but like I said, so is a load shot into a napkin. Where does this argument end? If you truly believe life starts with a fertilized egg than where does that leave in vitro fertilization? Where does the ethics land on that one? Does life beginning in the petri dish follow the same whimsical rules as life beginning in a womb?

Like I said, it seems you have a hair up your ass for me. You're talking about me calling myself sexy... who even retains this stuff? Why do some hang on the words some other posters say while bullshitting with other dudes in a sports wagering based chat forum? I every now and then mention some dumb shit I read on here to my wife but I don't retain it and throw it back in the posters face. You literally made a mental note of me referring to myself as sexy? How long ago was this? Why'd you retain it? Weirdo fucking stalker.

Ok now we’re getting somewhere. When challenged you are the one throwing insults by the way.

At every turn you throw in some random statement about how well read you are or how you work out. You couldn’t even get through the last couple responses without saying “I am the shit” and “ I do think I’m sexy”

you’ve brought up the sexy statement a few times now. I’m guessing it bothers you because you know you’ve said that stupid sh!t multiple times. I retain it because I’ve said to myself did Stu really just say that. Like I said you love you some you. All good, I won’t bring it up your narcissism again.

As far as abortion goes I am pro choice but let’s call a spade a spade. Abortion is ending life. Maybe not “a life” per se but life all the same. You made a statement about what science says and I disagreed.

I will concede my statement about heartbeats was off topic and could be misconstrued as making this an abortion debate. My fault 

Ivf is an interesting wrinkle in this conversation but I doubt you want to continue it and I don’t blame you

And those dividing cells you speak of are considered an embryo from conception to 8 weeks or so in fwiw

It doesn't bother me. I don't know that i've said... it just sounds like some shit that i'd say. So that humors me. You calling me arrogant doesn't bother me. I am arrogant. It's tongue in cheek. Calling myself sexy is something I would do so if you say i've done it multiple times, i'll take your word for it. I say all types of shit on here, again, being tongue and cheek. It's a site full of dudes and we shouldn't take ourselves so seriously. And yes, I call out bullshit because frankly people on this site are often clearly full of shit. It seems all of this has made an impression on you because it's all coming out at once like in an argument with a chick. And you're about one of the last people on this site I would expect that from. Real talk, i've retained shit about you that you've told me directly on some two dudes bonding shit. I know you live in socal. I know were both around the same age type shit, ect. and i've said it before, you're probably one of my favorite people on this site but I don't be retaining dick that you say. And it's not even on some disrespect. I've returned the important shit but why the fuck would I care about the trivial shit?

And they aren't an embryo until after a couple few weeks. They definitely aren't at conception. Look, i'm pro-choice but not 100% for abortion either. It is killing a baby.... but at conception? Hell, even the first week or two? Look, it's life but it ain't quite a baby.

Thanks Biscuit

So look, I suppose the statement you made about “Science doesn’t say life begins at conception religion does” just irked me because we live in a society where if one doesn’t support Biden clowns like DoubleUp will come in and call them a science denier. Or perhaps one thinks Fauci is obviously an expert in his field but he got out in front of his skis a few times during this pandemic... again, science denier. It’s one of the social justice warrior’s buzz phrases these days

I know you’re political leanings so I know you’re not that guy but at the end of the day I believe the statement you made to be factually incorrect and if you dig into it you might find that so do most bipartisan biologists.

The statement at the end about dumbest thing you’ve said could be taken as an attack and compounded with the “witty” retort I took this thing in a direction it shouldn’t have gone. And for that I apologize

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Shocking another thread in which this Stu character is telling the world how great he is, and insulting others for no good reason. Further proof of what an insecure, small man he is. Craves attention and needs approval from random dudes in a forum he does not know. Classic him. 

FYI, when someone uses "Real Talk" it generally means they are accustomed to lying and full of $hit most of the time. 

1) The person you claim I was "insulting for no good reason", is someone who if I was in LA, or he was up here, we'd almost undoubtedly at least catch a round and break bread. I'm not saying he would introduce me to his wife and kids, but if he had to introduce one of these characters to his wife and kids, for some abstract reason, i'm pretty confident i'd be in his top 5. As much as any stranger on the internet can be considered a friend, I consider him a friend. So the fact that you guys would use that exchange to paint me as some ner'do well shit starter, is quite comical. You can ask people from both extremes of the political aisle on this site how they feel about me and it'll be all positive. Can you say the same?

2) Regardless of any of that, which is neither here nor there, one thing is as clear as the day is long. You guys tried to bait me into your little depraved cesspool because it has been quiet around here and you need a bad guy, your lives being empty without covers drama. I resisted, said I would ignore you, and spent the day doing just that, barely posting anything at all. You two, on the other hand....

One of you, at what had to be somewhere between 1a-4a depending on what part of the country you are in, were thinking about me so deeply that you felt the need to bump a thread from over two months ago in an attempt to sully my character. He bumped the thread and you must have responded within minutes. All this AFTER 1am. How sick and depraved you two must be that this is what you were thinking about in the middle of the night, after 1am! I wouldn't care if you two were sitting side by side at the same shitty grave yard shift job, if this is what pops in your head in the middle of the night, antagonizing a total stranger who is keeping his word and ignoring you, then you two must lead sad, lonely lives. I mean, are you two the same person? I don't know what's more pathetic, for one guy to be digging through months old threads on covers in the middle of the night looking for ammo for a war your opponent has no interest in fighting, or responding to said middle of the night post in what seems to be mere minutes? Are you guys the same person, or are you two just fucking? I need approval from random dudes? You responded to this thread, in mere minutes, at one in the freakin' morning. Just let that sink in. I'm in bed with my wife, dozing off. You two are starting internet beef with strangers and probably praying to God that Biden send you a stimulus check.