This vid may explain...

@packersbackers

 And yes by now we can assume the vaxx is fine for most....but it can also cause heart issues for others....

2 sides to every coin...except the rigged ones

@packersbackers

 And in this case we would need look up heart issues per vaxx...

Which I think they have data on and was 1 in every 200-300k...maybe more maybe less...saw it a while ago

@dubz4dummyz

 My father had quintuple bypass surgery among other issues. Git vaccinated and boosted with 0 issues whatsoever.  My mither had a corotid artery got vaxed and boosted with 0 problems whatsoever.   Vaccines arent any cause or issue for anything except in small cases!

@dubz4dummyz

If you want to deny everything the doctor said in the video from post #1, then this conversation has hit a dead end.

If you want to be a card carrying member to the Anti Vax Club, that's your right to do so.

@Brooklyncapper

 Exactly my point. There are potential issues just not for everyone...just like anything in life

I have a friend who was perfectly healthy before getting vaxxed and now has to see a heart specialist multiple times a year..

It goes both ways...just like anything in life

@packersbackers

 Ahh the good old anti-vaxx label....im 100% pro-vaxx for anyone who wants to get it....fill ur boots...get all the boosters...if u are over 60 I recommend it

Of course that doctor may be right....

You clearly don't get it and are moving goal posts as u need to....have a good day

@blowoutgm

 Cannot rule it out and good post.

@packersbackers

 Terrible example and nothing to do with the vaccine possibility.

Packers losing a debate so he flips the topic

"Well you don't agree with this 1 specific doctor!!!!!!"

Meanwhile I never mentioned said doctor or anything about his claim...of course he could be 100% right but it is way to early to be sure....

@packersbackers

 I believe you are the one that carries the card.

Good luck 

Clowns will continue to imply the jab caused the player to have a heart attack, not the actual direct hit to his chest.

Moving the goalposts- please go research what that saying actually means, along with deflection.

Okay, I will let you feel like you won...I know how important it is to knuckledraggers to come off as unretarted in an online debate 

Trust the "science" 

Packerbacker stated

I know how important it is to knuckledraggers to come off as unretarted in an online debate

and,,,, there it is. 

Take care Mr. Packer

@dubz4dummyz

you seem like a reasonable guy so i'm not disagreeing that it could be anything. however, heart disease is the number one cause of death and health issues in this country, so it makes an easy scapegoat for anti-vaxxers (again, not saying you're anti). covid itself is an inflammation, blood vessel disease so it may very well be that people who got jabbed also have suffered from covid too and it's the covid, not the jabb, that may cause lingering heart issues. personally i've had heart issues for the last 17 years and i will gladly take the booster anytime the FDA recommends it as oppose to suffering through covid again which was absolutely miserable for me.

@clubtnt

 Exactly...to each their own....

All I am saying is the vaxx has been proven to cause heart issues...confirmed by the medical industry...hell I think even the manufacturers are warning about it (Pfizer, etc...)....

To say it's for sure the hit (cardio commo or whatever the proper term is)or if the vaxx potentially played a role is impossible to say at this time. 

People bring up a point that this is a fairly common hit in the nfl.

You could go on and on for either side of the debate. 

@clubtnt

 Much respect for keeping an open-mind and not resorting to name calling....

Good on ya

this video came out seconds after the incident.........

sus.....

Let's go over the potential possibilities here....they are very limited

1. If he isn't vaxxed it can't be vaxx related

2. He is vaxxed and it still is not vaxx related. Chest trauma cause heart issue.

3. He is vaxxed and potentially had heart issue of some sort (myocarditis, etc..) related to the vaxx. His heart was slightly weakened and then he took the hit that caused chest trauma.

4. He is vaxxed, had a weakened heart and the hit didn't help matters. A combo of heart trauma and myocarditis,etc... Again this is case-by-case as some people have no side effects while others have issues after getting vaxxed. 

5. Rumors flying he just got a booster in december.....experts and studies have found a majority of issues related to the vaxx/booster occur within the first 2 weeks of the shot. This would really trigger anti-vaxxers.

6. It was a regular hit that triggered something vaxx related to flare up

Those are the 6 sides to the coin right now

@witswits

Your incapable to resist jumping thru hoops when one is presented to you,,,clownshow circus act is you're specialty.

So when it is reported that Hamlin is not covid vaccinated, whats the next conspiracy??? 

Response from Chicken Pox vaccination or what? 

This is such a narrow minded take.

Explain to us how a boxer can take thousands of punches to the face over his career and never sustain a real injury?

Another boxer can take the same amount of punches to only develop serious brain disorders later in life.

Other boxes in the past have indeed died in the ring due to punches in the face.

Life isn't always so simple, death/injury isn't always a straight road.

Every contact sport has it's risks to one's health. 

@undermysac

 Yup perfect example of case-by-case 

Some people got vaxxed and got myocarditis 

Some people got vaxxed and didn't get myocarditis

@DeezyAZ81

 98% chance he's vaxxed...most players took it or were forced too....some big names got away with it...and some little names got away with it too I imagine...but I doubt many little names got away with it 

False. 98% according to who? You? Where is your data? You have the report from the Bills on who is vaxxed and who is not?

You are simply throwing out make believe numbers at this point. You are making a guess to try to suit your narrative. I'll wait for the real report, not covers conjecture. 

@DeezyAZ81

It's like trying to tell a doorknob they aren't a hammer...totally pointless to engage with certain retarted mental midgets.