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    Tressel33
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 8:02 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by River_fish:

    @Tressel33  Jim Tressel would be so disappointed

    bigsmile

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    Quote Originally Posted by River_fish:

    @Tressel33  Jim Tressel would be so disappointed

    bigsmile

     
    leventis72
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 9:52 AM ET #52

    Its a clown show thejester

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    Its a clown show thejester

     
    Cover34
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 9:59 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Money_Team99:

    @itsonnow1  I won money and still know it’s not real football out there . Billionaire dollar industry you can’t leave anything up to chance

    exactly. You just have to follow the script as best as you can. It's not the players in on it, it's the refs. peace_5

    Bet with your wallet,not your heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Money_Team99:

    @itsonnow1  I won money and still know it’s not real football out there . Billionaire dollar industry you can’t leave anything up to chance

    exactly. You just have to follow the script as best as you can. It's not the players in on it, it's the refs. peace_5

     
    Cover34
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 10:01 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavs2017Champs:

    Lmao at this nerd denying the nfl being fixed even tho former players have come out and admitted to it. Hahaha the NFL put on a show today with how fixed their sport is.

    Yes they did!. I agree with you. 

    Hard to believe the fellow thinks it's not rigged. 

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavs2017Champs:

    Lmao at this nerd denying the nfl being fixed even tho former players have come out and admitted to it. Hahaha the NFL put on a show today with how fixed their sport is.

    Yes they did!. I agree with you. 

    Hard to believe the fellow thinks it's not rigged. 

    peace

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 10:08 AM ET #55

    The fact the raiders beat the Ravens in a comeback in the 4th quarter should tell you everything about the league ....

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    The fact the raiders beat the Ravens in a comeback in the 4th quarter should tell you everything about the league ....

     
    IntenseOperator
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 10:10 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Great game entertaining ... You three need to go back to watching the Golden bachelor and Housewives of Atlanta more suited for you.. No insult just to each his own..  Now run along and  feed your cat...

    an_roll_laugh

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Great game entertaining ... You three need to go back to watching the Golden bachelor and Housewives of Atlanta more suited for you.. No insult just to each his own..  Now run along and  feed your cat...

    an_roll_laugh

     
    IntenseOperator
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 10:11 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    Why people buy their merchandise

    Why people pay to go to these games

    Why DAY AFTER DAY people post about a product they hate

    I used to laugh at and make fun of people who followed the WWE

    But I see no difference in the (2)

    Fixed it

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    Why people buy their merchandise

    Why people pay to go to these games

    Why DAY AFTER DAY people post about a product they hate

    I used to laugh at and make fun of people who followed the WWE

    But I see no difference in the (2)

    Fixed it

     
    TIPOF-THE-SWORD
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:02 AM ET #58

    I find it intriguing now that I care to look……

    KC plays both Tampa Bay and New Orleans in KC, coming-up this year.

    Wouldn’t it be generous if KC beat both of those (2) NFC South teams ULTIMATELY HELPING ATLANTA FALCONS make the playoffs?

    huh?

    I mean….wouldn’t the end product for Arthur Blank and the entire Atlanta Falcons organization be to make the playoffs, extend their season, added revenue from a possible home game. 

    They are all scratching each others backs!

     

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    I find it intriguing now that I care to look……

    KC plays both Tampa Bay and New Orleans in KC, coming-up this year.

    Wouldn’t it be generous if KC beat both of those (2) NFC South teams ULTIMATELY HELPING ATLANTA FALCONS make the playoffs?

    huh?

    I mean….wouldn’t the end product for Arthur Blank and the entire Atlanta Falcons organization be to make the playoffs, extend their season, added revenue from a possible home game. 

    They are all scratching each others backs!

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:15 AM ET #59

    One team will send you back to the cage and the other team won't.

     

    Choose wisely!  

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    One team will send you back to the cage and the other team won't.

     

    Choose wisely!  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:18 AM ET #60

    @ArtSchlichterJr

     Oooo I’m sure you’re a scary tough guy in person.  shut your mouth clown. Dont play tough guy on the internet 

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    @ArtSchlichterJr

     Oooo I’m sure you’re a scary tough guy in person.  shut your mouth clown. Dont play tough guy on the internet 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:27 AM ET #61

    I would also add the NFL and Vegas have way more to lose by rigging games then they do by not.

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    I would also add the NFL and Vegas have way more to lose by rigging games then they do by not.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:29 AM ET #62

    Early in this season we've seen more strange things than I can remember, mind boggling coaching decisions, questionable if not horrible penalties or missed penalties too. Need to bring back PI reviews, called or not called, it's just too critical of a play. I've been fortunate to be on the right side of questionable and bad calls or decisions but been on the wrong side in a couple games recently, it's frustrating, takes the enjoyment out of it and I've been doing this a long time. That it coincides with all this legal sports betting does raise an eyebrow though I don't believe games are fixed, maybe just the overall quality of the game has taken a step back. Fans want enjoyment but equally as much we want some level of consistency, be it coaching or officiating, preferably both. The league will lose fans if they haven't already, just my two cents.

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    Early in this season we've seen more strange things than I can remember, mind boggling coaching decisions, questionable if not horrible penalties or missed penalties too. Need to bring back PI reviews, called or not called, it's just too critical of a play. I've been fortunate to be on the right side of questionable and bad calls or decisions but been on the wrong side in a couple games recently, it's frustrating, takes the enjoyment out of it and I've been doing this a long time. That it coincides with all this legal sports betting does raise an eyebrow though I don't believe games are fixed, maybe just the overall quality of the game has taken a step back. Fans want enjoyment but equally as much we want some level of consistency, be it coaching or officiating, preferably both. The league will lose fans if they haven't already, just my two cents.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:40 AM ET #63

    @mrusso

    Well said! My wagers on the game last night were minimal $20 on Atl +3 and $20 on Atlanta ML. So, I didn’t lose much money, but the simple fact that I knew the HC of the Falcons was going to go for it on 4th down and not kick the FG. I knew he wasn’t going to do the logical thing and that is what hurts! Going for it on 4th down, does that not tell your defense and defensive coordinator that you have no faith in them to get the ball back??

    JMO

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    @mrusso

    Well said! My wagers on the game last night were minimal $20 on Atl +3 and $20 on Atlanta ML. So, I didn’t lose much money, but the simple fact that I knew the HC of the Falcons was going to go for it on 4th down and not kick the FG. I knew he wasn’t going to do the logical thing and that is what hurts! Going for it on 4th down, does that not tell your defense and defensive coordinator that you have no faith in them to get the ball back??

    JMO

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:41 AM ET #64

    @itsonnow1

     Just because you won your $10, 50, 100 dollars doesn't mean it's fixed.  

    The coaching and officiating are so suspicious, it makes you wonder.

    Why don't the officials measure after every play?  Officials pick up the ball and place it down.  

    With today's technology, it would only take a few seconds to get the placement of the ball correct on every play.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @itsonnow1

     Just because you won your $10, 50, 100 dollars doesn't mean it's fixed.  

    The coaching and officiating are so suspicious, it makes you wonder.

    Why don't the officials measure after every play?  Officials pick up the ball and place it down.  

    With today's technology, it would only take a few seconds to get the placement of the ball correct on every play.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 11:49 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    I just want to know why down (5) pts with 4:00 minutes on the clock and at least 2 or 3 time outs, why he doesn’t kick the field goal to cut it to a 2 point game? Please explain the logic!   I doubt anyone can! Because it isn’t logical what he did!

    Uh-huh. I noticed that also. Unless Morris had no confidence in his defense. I thought they were playing pretty well though. I would have went for the field goal. Hmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    I just want to know why down (5) pts with 4:00 minutes on the clock and at least 2 or 3 time outs, why he doesn’t kick the field goal to cut it to a 2 point game? Please explain the logic!   I doubt anyone can! Because it isn’t logical what he did!

    Uh-huh. I noticed that also. Unless Morris had no confidence in his defense. I thought they were playing pretty well though. I would have went for the field goal. Hmmmmmm

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 12:30 PM ET #66

    You can’t win with these people. the public team is the team that actually covered and yet they still cry fixed. Usually it’s when the favourite doesn't cover they cry fixed. Only on covers

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    You can’t win with these people. the public team is the team that actually covered and yet they still cry fixed. Usually it’s when the favourite doesn't cover they cry fixed. Only on covers

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 12:31 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    @mrusso Well said! My wagers on the game last night were minimal $20 on Atl +3 and $20 on Atlanta ML. So, I didn’t lose much money, but the simple fact that I knew the HC of the Falcons was going to go for it on 4th down and not kick the FG. I knew he wasn’t going to do the logical thing and that is what hurts! Going for it on 4th down, does that not tell your defense and defensive coordinator that you have no faith in them to get the ball back?? JMO

     

    On top of that, how about running an actual play if you don't kick the FG, that will actually have a chance of hell in working. Can't make this shit up. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIPOF-THE-SWORD:

    @mrusso Well said! My wagers on the game last night were minimal $20 on Atl +3 and $20 on Atlanta ML. So, I didn’t lose much money, but the simple fact that I knew the HC of the Falcons was going to go for it on 4th down and not kick the FG. I knew he wasn’t going to do the logical thing and that is what hurts! Going for it on 4th down, does that not tell your defense and defensive coordinator that you have no faith in them to get the ball back?? JMO

     

    On top of that, how about running an actual play if you don't kick the FG, that will actually have a chance of hell in working. Can't make this shit up. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 12:35 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by Puckhandler:

    You can’t win with these people. the public team is the team that actually covered and yet they still cry fixed. Usually it’s when the favourite doesn't cover they cry fixed. Only on covers

     

    Not sure what you're talking about. I didn't have any money on that game what so ever. No reason you don't kick the FG with over 4 minutes left in the game and all of your timeouts remaining. It get's it within 2 points, and let's hope your defense whose played well the whole game, can step up one more time. 

    Then, look what happens, they did get the ball back, and come down, to where if they would have kicked the FG a few minutes earlier, they would be in position of winning the game. Not so sure how people don't understand this? You can't fault people to be having some thoughts about this even if you didn't have money on that game, also take into account what the spread of the game was as well, and how that would have affected it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckhandler:

    You can’t win with these people. the public team is the team that actually covered and yet they still cry fixed. Usually it’s when the favourite doesn't cover they cry fixed. Only on covers

     

    Not sure what you're talking about. I didn't have any money on that game what so ever. No reason you don't kick the FG with over 4 minutes left in the game and all of your timeouts remaining. It get's it within 2 points, and let's hope your defense whose played well the whole game, can step up one more time. 

    Then, look what happens, they did get the ball back, and come down, to where if they would have kicked the FG a few minutes earlier, they would be in position of winning the game. Not so sure how people don't understand this? You can't fault people to be having some thoughts about this even if you didn't have money on that game, also take into account what the spread of the game was as well, and how that would have affected it. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 12:41 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy1:

    @ArtSchlichterJr  Oooo I’m sure you’re a scary tough guy in person.  shut your mouth clown. Dont play tough guy on the internet
    an_roll_laugh... find room for a little levity in life ....  Tough guy... clown... Sicks and stones will break my bones .....  Cat thing hit a little to close to home... sorry...carry on... peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy1:

    @ArtSchlichterJr  Oooo I’m sure you’re a scary tough guy in person.  shut your mouth clown. Dont play tough guy on the internet
    an_roll_laugh... find room for a little levity in life ....  Tough guy... clown... Sicks and stones will break my bones .....  Cat thing hit a little to close to home... sorry...carry on... peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:05 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @MaximusRamulous   Where do these teams get the money to pay all these huge player contracts when the owners only have 8 home games a year with all the overhead to pay just to put the game on? Doesn't add up!
    There's these little things called TV contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @MaximusRamulous   Where do these teams get the money to pay all these huge player contracts when the owners only have 8 home games a year with all the overhead to pay just to put the game on? Doesn't add up!
    There's these little things called TV contracts.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:10 PM ET #71

    @Tressel33

    Listen, I don't want to keep beating a dead horse's ass

    All I can say is I coached high school football for 35 years. I went to probably over 200 clinics in my lifetime, worked Ohio State camps under both Cooper and Tressel, went to Iowa and studied Norm Parker's defense at Iowa, and spent time with the V Tech staff on the Bear defense in my day. I even had beers with Buddy Ryan at a clinic in Cincinnati. What a night! He was the guest speaker and was drunk off his ass. He shut it down so we could go drink more beer.

    In not one of my experiences in all of these scenarios and conversations did rigging, scripted, or fake football come up at any level (college/pro). Why? Because it is simply not true. Think about it. If it does exist it's only a matter of time before it comes out or is proven. With gambling and fantasy, can you imagine the lawsuits? Why would the NFL or gambling sites want to risk that? They already have it good! The NFL is expanding worldwide. They don't need to script games. People in Brazil or Cambodia will still go and watch Carolina plays the Browns if they come. 

    This is my experience. Just because you see a coach on the sidelines on Saturday or Sunday doesn't make them an expert. They are human, fallible, and make mistakes also. I watch games too and question decisions and calls, but by no means do I think a conspiracy is involved. This includes refs!

    I question my three daughter's decisions all the time, but I don't think they are out to get me or are doing shit on purpose. At least I hope not...  

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    @Tressel33

    Listen, I don't want to keep beating a dead horse's ass

    All I can say is I coached high school football for 35 years. I went to probably over 200 clinics in my lifetime, worked Ohio State camps under both Cooper and Tressel, went to Iowa and studied Norm Parker's defense at Iowa, and spent time with the V Tech staff on the Bear defense in my day. I even had beers with Buddy Ryan at a clinic in Cincinnati. What a night! He was the guest speaker and was drunk off his ass. He shut it down so we could go drink more beer.

    In not one of my experiences in all of these scenarios and conversations did rigging, scripted, or fake football come up at any level (college/pro). Why? Because it is simply not true. Think about it. If it does exist it's only a matter of time before it comes out or is proven. With gambling and fantasy, can you imagine the lawsuits? Why would the NFL or gambling sites want to risk that? They already have it good! The NFL is expanding worldwide. They don't need to script games. People in Brazil or Cambodia will still go and watch Carolina plays the Browns if they come. 

    This is my experience. Just because you see a coach on the sidelines on Saturday or Sunday doesn't make them an expert. They are human, fallible, and make mistakes also. I watch games too and question decisions and calls, but by no means do I think a conspiracy is involved. This includes refs!

    I question my three daughter's decisions all the time, but I don't think they are out to get me or are doing shit on purpose. At least I hope not...  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:20 PM ET #72

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     Right.

    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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    @MrWhatsItToYa

     Right.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:22 PM ET #73

    @River_fish

     Some people just can't see it.

    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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    @River_fish

     Some people just can't see it.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:28 PM ET #74

    @jpot34

     Oddly, they keep betting on something that they believe is fixed. That is even more bizarre to me. It hurts so good...

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    @jpot34

     Oddly, they keep betting on something that they believe is fixed. That is even more bizarre to me. It hurts so good...

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2024 - 1:32 PM ET #75

    All I read is new_heavy_crynew_heavy_cry, go cry to the NFL X account then, if you now is rigged, play the rigged side then and make some $$$

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    All I read is new_heavy_crynew_heavy_cry, go cry to the NFL X account then, if you now is rigged, play the rigged side then and make some $$$

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