Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: @wallstreetcappers You have been exposed ....... Time to give it up and go off line for a while . So since you say the election was rigged even though he lost then I am exposed? You are the one who made the bet not anyone else, so you wormed out of it and thus you do not have clean hands with regards to the other member. I didnt ban you for squirming out of a wager you made, I only said you do not have clean hands with regards to interactions with him, and this is 100% true. Keep working it out SS...
Your deflecting. You have been exposed as a moderator who let's their political beliefs interfer with the duty of moderating.
When the thread "I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters" was created the Op's only message content was "shamful". Quickly our mod here posted the first reply;
The problem is his followers not him directly. If the piper plays and nobody follows then who cares? The issue is a certain segment of the population WANTS to riot, to b!tch and moan and blame others, they want to fight against others and will find ways to do so.
People make choices, Trump is a clown and a moron and a little ego baby but that does not mean people have to follow. People are sheep, sheep like to be led around and told what to do and how to think...many many sheep out there in the world.
When any thread titled "I'm embarrased for Biden supporters" or just "embarrassed for Biden" was created ( EIGHT TIMES they were promptly set to this Penalty Box)
If you have political beliefs and voice them, fine! You shouldn't let that interfer with moderation. But you do. Seems you want the scales tilted and now that " the sheep have followed the piper" you tilt more. And no long winded reply is going to change that.
This is my last post in this thread on this issue. And in parting; IMO, nothing is more childish than holding a thumb on someone who welched a bet five years ago.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: @wallstreetcappers You have been exposed ....... Time to give it up and go off line for a while . So since you say the election was rigged even though he lost then I am exposed? You are the one who made the bet not anyone else, so you wormed out of it and thus you do not have clean hands with regards to the other member. I didnt ban you for squirming out of a wager you made, I only said you do not have clean hands with regards to interactions with him, and this is 100% true. Keep working it out SS...
Your deflecting. You have been exposed as a moderator who let's their political beliefs interfer with the duty of moderating.
When the thread "I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters" was created the Op's only message content was "shamful". Quickly our mod here posted the first reply;
The problem is his followers not him directly. If the piper plays and nobody follows then who cares? The issue is a certain segment of the population WANTS to riot, to b!tch and moan and blame others, they want to fight against others and will find ways to do so.
People make choices, Trump is a clown and a moron and a little ego baby but that does not mean people have to follow. People are sheep, sheep like to be led around and told what to do and how to think...many many sheep out there in the world.
When any thread titled "I'm embarrased for Biden supporters" or just "embarrassed for Biden" was created ( EIGHT TIMES they were promptly set to this Penalty Box)
If you have political beliefs and voice them, fine! You shouldn't let that interfer with moderation. But you do. Seems you want the scales tilted and now that " the sheep have followed the piper" you tilt more. And no long winded reply is going to change that.
This is my last post in this thread on this issue. And in parting; IMO, nothing is more childish than holding a thumb on someone who welched a bet five years ago.
Clean hands is not a thumb, if you and others and the poster in question try and soil another member then the first thing you have to do is determine if you have clean hands to the matter. I did not ban him or box him for scamming on his word and on the bet. My comment was that unless SS cleared the issue with the other poster then how can he or you make claim about that member?
Ive said the same thing to you regarding clean hands, if you want to take issue with another member and their infraction with you then you have to be clean and clear of any infraction yourself, that is clean hands. So the moral of this reply and pretty much every single message reply I make to YOU specifically is that you cannot point fingers and lay blame when you are an instigator, a participant and someone who has broken the rules in the same fashion. Instead of retaliating and complaining, try actually doing what I have suggested and be an upstanding member, avoid conflict and combative replying to other members, lead by example and by following the rules not by trying to lawyer ball with out of context retorts.
We have discussed the Trump thread, I gave an explanation as to context and purpose but you really are not interested in understanding or making things better, you want to divide and complain, you want to point fingers and cry foul instead of listening and finding meaning and understanding. The fact you criticized my long explanation messages again shows your true character and the truth of you really not being interested in co-existing and making efforts that add value so all your complaining and partisan finger pointing are pointless and my replies to you are pointless. If I was as you are suggesting I would have banned your account long ago for the abusive personal digs you have made towards me, same goes for many of your group who antagonize and create drama when you do not get your way.
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Clean hands is not a thumb, if you and others and the poster in question try and soil another member then the first thing you have to do is determine if you have clean hands to the matter. I did not ban him or box him for scamming on his word and on the bet. My comment was that unless SS cleared the issue with the other poster then how can he or you make claim about that member?
Ive said the same thing to you regarding clean hands, if you want to take issue with another member and their infraction with you then you have to be clean and clear of any infraction yourself, that is clean hands. So the moral of this reply and pretty much every single message reply I make to YOU specifically is that you cannot point fingers and lay blame when you are an instigator, a participant and someone who has broken the rules in the same fashion. Instead of retaliating and complaining, try actually doing what I have suggested and be an upstanding member, avoid conflict and combative replying to other members, lead by example and by following the rules not by trying to lawyer ball with out of context retorts.
We have discussed the Trump thread, I gave an explanation as to context and purpose but you really are not interested in understanding or making things better, you want to divide and complain, you want to point fingers and cry foul instead of listening and finding meaning and understanding. The fact you criticized my long explanation messages again shows your true character and the truth of you really not being interested in co-existing and making efforts that add value so all your complaining and partisan finger pointing are pointless and my replies to you are pointless. If I was as you are suggesting I would have banned your account long ago for the abusive personal digs you have made towards me, same goes for many of your group who antagonize and create drama when you do not get your way.
A proponderance of evidence in the politics forum supports the contention that members experience is being diminished by moderation that is indescernable from personal use.
Additionally, attempts to justify moderation on merits are sidelined in favor of lengthy argumentative rhetoric that escalates versus disarms situations.
Many threads function without issue, until "moderation" is deemed necessary and then quickly deteriorate.
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A proponderance of evidence in the politics forum supports the contention that members experience is being diminished by moderation that is indescernable from personal use.
Additionally, attempts to justify moderation on merits are sidelined in favor of lengthy argumentative rhetoric that escalates versus disarms situations.
Many threads function without issue, until "moderation" is deemed necessary and then quickly deteriorate.
The tone is astounding and the content is laughable.
Especially as objectively one could contend in Slims thread "DOGE" some are "forcing themselves where they are not wanted and stalking with usless combative nonsense".
Now this is where objectively one could contend (and maybe we've heard this before) that in a forum where content is made members are free to enter and comment wherever desired.......
But that's not what #5 would have some believe.
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The tone is astounding and the content is laughable.
Especially as objectively one could contend in Slims thread "DOGE" some are "forcing themselves where they are not wanted and stalking with usless combative nonsense".
Now this is where objectively one could contend (and maybe we've heard this before) that in a forum where content is made members are free to enter and comment wherever desired.......
[Quote: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers]@UNIMAN Clean hands is not a thumb, if you and others and the poster in question try and soil another member then the first thing you have to do is determine if you have clean hands to the matter. I did not ban him or box him for scamming on his word and on the bet. My comment was that unless SS cleared the issue with the other poster then how can he or you make claim about that member? Ive said the same thing to you regarding clean hands, if you want to take issue with another member and their infraction with you then you have to be clean and clear of any infraction yourself, that is clean hands. So the moral of this reply and pretty much every single message reply I make to YOU specifically is that you cannot point fingers and lay blame when you are an instigator, a participant and someone who has broken the rules in the same fashion.
Great attempt at long winded deflecting...however, when you boxed me this time ...I did not have any interacting with MIdnight ....and it is not relevant this time .
You are bring up old rehashed material ..to use in your weak defense of your actions.
This tread has exposed you to the whole forum as who you really are..and who is the one , that really has the Dirty hands.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers]@UNIMAN Clean hands is not a thumb, if you and others and the poster in question try and soil another member then the first thing you have to do is determine if you have clean hands to the matter. I did not ban him or box him for scamming on his word and on the bet. My comment was that unless SS cleared the issue with the other poster then how can he or you make claim about that member? Ive said the same thing to you regarding clean hands, if you want to take issue with another member and their infraction with you then you have to be clean and clear of any infraction yourself, that is clean hands. So the moral of this reply and pretty much every single message reply I make to YOU specifically is that you cannot point fingers and lay blame when you are an instigator, a participant and someone who has broken the rules in the same fashion.
Great attempt at long winded deflecting...however, when you boxed me this time ...I did not have any interacting with MIdnight ....and it is not relevant this time .
You are bring up old rehashed material ..to use in your weak defense of your actions.
This tread has exposed you to the whole forum as who you really are..and who is the one , that really has the Dirty hands.
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