You stated that Trump isthe most successful POTUS in 40 years by ANY MEASUREMENT
and you think I am brainwashed
So you went from 6 employees to 7 . that's successful
How many employees did you lose before Obama took over ? between 2007 and 2009
Dude you are Delusional and foolish
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:
You stated that Trump isthe most successful POTUS in 40 years by ANY MEASUREMENT
and you think I am brainwashed
So you went from 6 employees to 7 . that's successful
How many employees did you lose before Obama took over ? between 2007 and 2009
Dude you are Delusional and foolish
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
We are not fast enough or wealthy enough or smart enough to match the power of a large corp or even a medium corp or many wealthy elite entities. These organizations are 5 steps in front of the government and you do not sweet talk or coddle something that is faster and smarter than you. Unfortunately penalty and regulation are weak controls but you work with what you got and as a government we are not going to fund to properly equip what would be necessary to try and keep pace with a for profit powerful entity.
That is the reason President Trump hired successful business
leaders to help him run the government......he added billionaire CEO's and Chief Executives to his cabinet...........because they are smart..
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
We are not fast enough or wealthy enough or smart enough to match the power of a large corp or even a medium corp or many wealthy elite entities. These organizations are 5 steps in front of the government and you do not sweet talk or coddle something that is faster and smarter than you. Unfortunately penalty and regulation are weak controls but you work with what you got and as a government we are not going to fund to properly equip what would be necessary to try and keep pace with a for profit powerful entity.
That is the reason President Trump hired successful business
leaders to help him run the government......he added billionaire CEO's and Chief Executives to his cabinet...........because they are smart..
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: ...I dont really read much online material outside zerohedge on a deeper basis and I actually regret starting to follow zerohedge years ago as they are extremely biased and it clouds my vision to an extent and not in a positive way... According to wikipedia, zerohedge is known for being controversial, conspiratorial, anti-establishment, pessimistic, extremist and pro-russian. Although zerohedge has been right about banking corruption, it occasionally publish misleading information.
Yeah zerohedge gives me insight I might not find with regards to underground info and faster general info than the normal outlets...BUT I grow tired of their wrong market bashing year over year over year and their bias towards gold and now crypto and they TEND to be a tad bit too right leaning for my liking...for sure they are straight DEM bashers and very very lightly critical on repubs...but for sure their glaring biases are towards gold and against the FED and the markets. And they have been wrong for a very very very long time.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: ...I dont really read much online material outside zerohedge on a deeper basis and I actually regret starting to follow zerohedge years ago as they are extremely biased and it clouds my vision to an extent and not in a positive way... According to wikipedia, zerohedge is known for being controversial, conspiratorial, anti-establishment, pessimistic, extremist and pro-russian. Although zerohedge has been right about banking corruption, it occasionally publish misleading information.
Yeah zerohedge gives me insight I might not find with regards to underground info and faster general info than the normal outlets...BUT I grow tired of their wrong market bashing year over year over year and their bias towards gold and now crypto and they TEND to be a tad bit too right leaning for my liking...for sure they are straight DEM bashers and very very lightly critical on repubs...but for sure their glaring biases are towards gold and against the FED and the markets. And they have been wrong for a very very very long time.
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: We are not fast enough or wealthy enough or smart enough to match the power of a large corp or even a medium corp or many wealthy elite entities. These organizations are 5 steps in front of the government and you do not sweet talk or coddle something that is faster and smarter than you. Unfortunately penalty and regulation are weak controls but you work with what you got and as a government we are not going to fund to properly equip what would be necessary to try and keep pace with a for profit powerful entity. That is the reason President Trump hired successful business leaders to help him run the government......he added billionaire CEO's and Chief Executives to his cabinet...........because they are smart..
You didnt really type this and believe it did you? This is a joke...
So you applaud a schmuck who campaigned on an anti-establishment middle/lower class platform and has done none of what he promised, surrounded himself with the ilk who cause the greatest pain to the lower and middle class and call them smart?
They are smart because they have the power and the speed to be ahead of everyone else, that does not make them commendable nor does it make the idiot commendable for hiring them.
Gotta love the dopes comments caught by an onlooker about paying the elite with this fraud legislation. He is such a loud mouth putz he does not even think his blabberings are going to be used against him (and rightly so) to show what a fraud he is. His little ego and loud mouth are embarrassing the country.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: We are not fast enough or wealthy enough or smart enough to match the power of a large corp or even a medium corp or many wealthy elite entities. These organizations are 5 steps in front of the government and you do not sweet talk or coddle something that is faster and smarter than you. Unfortunately penalty and regulation are weak controls but you work with what you got and as a government we are not going to fund to properly equip what would be necessary to try and keep pace with a for profit powerful entity. That is the reason President Trump hired successful business leaders to help him run the government......he added billionaire CEO's and Chief Executives to his cabinet...........because they are smart..
You didnt really type this and believe it did you? This is a joke...
So you applaud a schmuck who campaigned on an anti-establishment middle/lower class platform and has done none of what he promised, surrounded himself with the ilk who cause the greatest pain to the lower and middle class and call them smart?
They are smart because they have the power and the speed to be ahead of everyone else, that does not make them commendable nor does it make the idiot commendable for hiring them.
Gotta love the dopes comments caught by an onlooker about paying the elite with this fraud legislation. He is such a loud mouth putz he does not even think his blabberings are going to be used against him (and rightly so) to show what a fraud he is. His little ego and loud mouth are embarrassing the country.
You didnt really type this and believe it did you? This is a joke...
Yeah ! What I post a joke..
Whats a joke is you calling President Trump,... in one post ..a schmuck, idiot, dope, putz (putz = penis),, blabber, fraud ,little ego- large mouth..and want people to believe you are not bias..and partisan..
When the only thing I have ever seen you post negatively about Obama is ..I don't like him or Hillary.. I don't like her.
Very transparent ..
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
You didnt really type this and believe it did you? This is a joke...
Yeah ! What I post a joke..
Whats a joke is you calling President Trump,... in one post ..a schmuck, idiot, dope, putz (putz = penis),, blabber, fraud ,little ego- large mouth..and want people to believe you are not bias..and partisan..
When the only thing I have ever seen you post negatively about Obama is ..I don't like him or Hillary.. I don't like her.
Whats a joke is you calling President Trump,... in one post ..a schmuck, idiot, dope, putz (putz = penis),, blabber, fraud ,little ego- large mouth..and want people to believe you are not bias..and partisan..
When the only thing I have ever seen you post negatively about Obama is ..I don't like him or Hillary.. I don't like her.
Very transparent ..
Slim, I am not a supporter of Trump for a number of reasons, least of which is his actual politics.
But I am fascinated and greatly entertained by Trump's ability to make people absolutely crazy.
When the POTUS opens his mouth (or twitter) people become unhinged and delusional.
They fail to realize that everything that they accuse Trump of being, they are themselves at that moment.
Watching the MSM lose their sh!t over everything and anything 'Trump' is genuinely funny.
A couple of weeks ago my wife asked me why I sometimes watch MSNBC.
My response was simple ... "it's entertaining"
bigreds daddy
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Yeah ! What I post a joke..
Whats a joke is you calling President Trump,... in one post ..a schmuck, idiot, dope, putz (putz = penis),, blabber, fraud ,little ego- large mouth..and want people to believe you are not bias..and partisan..
When the only thing I have ever seen you post negatively about Obama is ..I don't like him or Hillary.. I don't like her.
Very transparent ..
Slim, I am not a supporter of Trump for a number of reasons, least of which is his actual politics.
But I am fascinated and greatly entertained by Trump's ability to make people absolutely crazy.
When the POTUS opens his mouth (or twitter) people become unhinged and delusional.
They fail to realize that everything that they accuse Trump of being, they are themselves at that moment.
Watching the MSM lose their sh!t over everything and anything 'Trump' is genuinely funny.
A couple of weeks ago my wife asked me why I sometimes watch MSNBC.
My insults on Trump are due to his low quality of character and lack of leadership. His outright lies and deception to those who actually bit the line he tossed out there and how flippant and disrespectful he is and always has been. The guy is a moral loser and an embarrasment to the office and this country. My comments have nothing to do with you as a person and if you really can ignore what a disgusting joke he is then you really are not voting for the candidate, merely for the party and that is really bad news.
Obama held more respect for the office and others than Trump ever will and even if you disagree with his political decisions and positions if nothing else he never shamed the office remotely close to what Trump has done in less than a year.
I respect people here who can admit the low character jerk Trump is but say they voted for him because of his party and that they disliked Clinton...that I dont care about but when people try and ignore and build up such a low life and ignore his horrid treatment of others..well that is acting just as bad as he does and that I do not care for.
I dont find disrespecting people to be entertainment, I dont find jokes at how Trump belittles women and so many people around him, how he throws his elitist life in the face of others and makes a mockery of this country. There is very little in the way of positive character from him and that is the only measurement I am interested in with regards to him.
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SS,
My insults on Trump are due to his low quality of character and lack of leadership. His outright lies and deception to those who actually bit the line he tossed out there and how flippant and disrespectful he is and always has been. The guy is a moral loser and an embarrasment to the office and this country. My comments have nothing to do with you as a person and if you really can ignore what a disgusting joke he is then you really are not voting for the candidate, merely for the party and that is really bad news.
Obama held more respect for the office and others than Trump ever will and even if you disagree with his political decisions and positions if nothing else he never shamed the office remotely close to what Trump has done in less than a year.
I respect people here who can admit the low character jerk Trump is but say they voted for him because of his party and that they disliked Clinton...that I dont care about but when people try and ignore and build up such a low life and ignore his horrid treatment of others..well that is acting just as bad as he does and that I do not care for.
I dont find disrespecting people to be entertainment, I dont find jokes at how Trump belittles women and so many people around him, how he throws his elitist life in the face of others and makes a mockery of this country. There is very little in the way of positive character from him and that is the only measurement I am interested in with regards to him.
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
The more you post the more foolish you sound
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
Here's where I feel you are mistaken. Many people like myself did not vote for
Donald Trump,because it was along the party line ...Trump was not a
Republican Party person in the first place.. he was able to do what very
few in this world could do...He defeated 16 rival candidates to win the
Republican nomination.. beating the GOP elite that lined up against
him.. He took on the crooked media and showed their bias,,,took down the
Bush family Dynasty and challenged the corrupt Clinton machine and
defeated it.
As far as his insults and inflammatory rhetoric,, in
most cases he is only firing back at people who have attacked him first. How
can you respect people that wish to destroy you?..They are enemies.
With
Obama,,, not only did he shame the office of the President, but also
shamed America. Going around the World bowing to other leaders and
telling foreign countries, that the U.S. is a flawed nation and
apologizing for your past . If you want to talk about a President
outright lying to deceive Americans....look no further then his out and
out lies to sell the American people Obamacare . Telling Americans that
90% of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies....in
reality, Obama’s actions increased the deficit 44%.
..and who can forget Obama saying the day after Benghazi happened,not acknowledging that this was an act of terrorism...which it was...that's a lie by omission.
There is a good reason why Obama is called the "Lyin Hawaiian"..
Now,if
we discard any of our past Presidents, because of lack of moral
character..we would be discarding some of our greatest Presidents..and
President Trump is indeed flawed ..so was KIng David,and he was a great
leader even though he had 8 wives. So, yes I'm willing to overlook
some of President Trump short comings ,because he shows a love for
America..and is trying to do what's good for America..and that's what we
gravely need at this point in time.
Despite all that ..."Merry Christmas."
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WSC,
Here's where I feel you are mistaken. Many people like myself did not vote for
Donald Trump,because it was along the party line ...Trump was not a
Republican Party person in the first place.. he was able to do what very
few in this world could do...He defeated 16 rival candidates to win the
Republican nomination.. beating the GOP elite that lined up against
him.. He took on the crooked media and showed their bias,,,took down the
Bush family Dynasty and challenged the corrupt Clinton machine and
defeated it.
As far as his insults and inflammatory rhetoric,, in
most cases he is only firing back at people who have attacked him first. How
can you respect people that wish to destroy you?..They are enemies.
With
Obama,,, not only did he shame the office of the President, but also
shamed America. Going around the World bowing to other leaders and
telling foreign countries, that the U.S. is a flawed nation and
apologizing for your past . If you want to talk about a President
outright lying to deceive Americans....look no further then his out and
out lies to sell the American people Obamacare . Telling Americans that
90% of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies....in
reality, Obama’s actions increased the deficit 44%.
..and who can forget Obama saying the day after Benghazi happened,not acknowledging that this was an act of terrorism...which it was...that's a lie by omission.
There is a good reason why Obama is called the "Lyin Hawaiian"..
Now,if
we discard any of our past Presidents, because of lack of moral
character..we would be discarding some of our greatest Presidents..and
President Trump is indeed flawed ..so was KIng David,and he was a great
leader even though he had 8 wives. So, yes I'm willing to overlook
some of President Trump short comings ,because he shows a love for
America..and is trying to do what's good for America..and that's what we
gravely need at this point in time.
Here's where I feel you are mistaken. Many people like myself did not vote for
Donald Trump,because it was along the party line ...Trump was not a
Republican Party person in the first place.. he was able to do what very
few in this world could do...He defeated 16 rival candidates to win the
Republican nomination.. beating the GOP elite that lined up against
him.. He took on the crooked media and showed their bias,,,took down the
Bush family Dynasty and challenged the corrupt Clinton machine and
defeated it.
As far as his insults and inflammatory rhetoric,, in
most cases he is only firing back at people who have attacked him first. How
can you respect people that wish to destroy you?..They are enemies.
With
Obama,,, not only did he shame the office of the President, but also
shamed America. Going around the World bowing to other leaders and
telling foreign countries, that the U.S. is a flawed nation and
apologizing for your past . If you want to talk about a President
outright lying to deceive Americans....look no further then his out and
out lies to sell the American people Obamacare . Telling Americans that
90% of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies....in
reality, Obama’s actions increased the deficit 44%.
..and who can forget Obama saying the day after Benghazi happened,not acknowledging that this was an act of terrorism...which it was...that's a lie by omission.
There is a good reason why Obama is called the "Lyin Hawaiian"..
Now,if
we discard any of our past Presidents, because of lack of moral
character..we would be discarding some of our greatest Presidents..and
President Trump is indeed flawed ..so was KIng David,and he was a great
leader even though he had 8 wives. So, yes I'm willing to overlook
some of President Trump short comings ,because he shows a love for
America..and is trying to do what's good for America..and that's what we
gravely need at this point in time.
Despite all that ..."Merry Christmas."
HAPPY KWANZAA SLIM !!
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
WSC,
Here's where I feel you are mistaken. Many people like myself did not vote for
Donald Trump,because it was along the party line ...Trump was not a
Republican Party person in the first place.. he was able to do what very
few in this world could do...He defeated 16 rival candidates to win the
Republican nomination.. beating the GOP elite that lined up against
him.. He took on the crooked media and showed their bias,,,took down the
Bush family Dynasty and challenged the corrupt Clinton machine and
defeated it.
As far as his insults and inflammatory rhetoric,, in
most cases he is only firing back at people who have attacked him first. How
can you respect people that wish to destroy you?..They are enemies.
With
Obama,,, not only did he shame the office of the President, but also
shamed America. Going around the World bowing to other leaders and
telling foreign countries, that the U.S. is a flawed nation and
apologizing for your past . If you want to talk about a President
outright lying to deceive Americans....look no further then his out and
out lies to sell the American people Obamacare . Telling Americans that
90% of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies....in
reality, Obama’s actions increased the deficit 44%.
..and who can forget Obama saying the day after Benghazi happened,not acknowledging that this was an act of terrorism...which it was...that's a lie by omission.
There is a good reason why Obama is called the "Lyin Hawaiian"..
Now,if
we discard any of our past Presidents, because of lack of moral
character..we would be discarding some of our greatest Presidents..and
President Trump is indeed flawed ..so was KIng David,and he was a great
leader even though he had 8 wives. So, yes I'm willing to overlook
some of President Trump short comings ,because he shows a love for
America..and is trying to do what's good for America..and that's what we
gravely need at this point in time.
Thank you wall for giving our perspective good bad or indifferent. For your tolerance with opinions and the natural discourse in dealing with the perceived sensitives issues in Politics.
nature1970
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Thank you wall for giving our perspective good bad or indifferent. For your tolerance with opinions and the natural discourse in dealing with the perceived sensitives issues in Politics.
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
When Trump was running for president , he stated that the stock market was in a bubble that should make investors wary.
“They worked all their lives to save and now what happens is they’re being forced into an inflated stock market and at some point they’ll get wiped out,” Mr. Trump told The Hill in October 2015 regarding American workers.
“Remember the word bubble? You heard it here first. I don’t want to sound rude, but I hope if it explodes, it’s going to be now, rather than two months into another administration,” Mr. Trump said in December 2015.
“The only thing that looks good is the stock market, but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that’s going to come crashing down,” Mr. Trump said. “We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble.”
Donald Trump's comment during First Presidential Debate
on Aug 3 2017 ( about 6 months and 2 weeks after Trump was inaugurated)
Business is looking better than ever with business enthusiasm at record levels. Stock Market at an all-time high. That doesn't just happen!
Killer_B believes that Trump has done more in 11 months than Obama has done in 8 years.
Yeah I agree killer_B, Trump has played golf more often than Obama so far.
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Bought the biz in 2014... Previous to that it always had 6 employees.
And what great contribution do you have to society?
I'd like to see an argument made against Trump's statistical improvements, but you have nothing. You just don't like him. It's like pi$$Ing in your pants, you're the only one that feels it.
Dems are such snowflakes, I wanted Obama to succeed but please tell us his great legacy after 8 years of being POTUS? ISIS? Iran? Obamacare? Doubling the national debt? Overthrowing governments that kept the animals in their country in check - Libya & Egypt.
Oh, I know he inherited a horrible economy and spent $10T to save us, and then what? His record is pathetic, but you won't admit that just like you won't admit Trumps successes. Grow up already.
When Trump was running for president , he stated that the stock market was in a bubble that should make investors wary.
“They worked all their lives to save and now what happens is they’re being forced into an inflated stock market and at some point they’ll get wiped out,” Mr. Trump told The Hill in October 2015 regarding American workers.
“Remember the word bubble? You heard it here first. I don’t want to sound rude, but I hope if it explodes, it’s going to be now, rather than two months into another administration,” Mr. Trump said in December 2015.
“The only thing that looks good is the stock market, but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that’s going to come crashing down,” Mr. Trump said. “We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble.”
Donald Trump's comment during First Presidential Debate
on Aug 3 2017 ( about 6 months and 2 weeks after Trump was inaugurated)
Business is looking better than ever with business enthusiasm at record levels. Stock Market at an all-time high. That doesn't just happen!
My insults on Trump are due to his low quality of character and lack of leadership. His outright lies and deception to those who actually bit the line he tossed out there and how flippant and disrespectful he is and always has been. The guy is a moral loser and an embarrasment to the office and this country. My comments have nothing to do with you as a person and if you really can ignore what a disgusting joke he is then you really are not voting for the candidate, merely for the party and that is really bad news.
Obama held more respect for the office and others than Trump ever will and even if you disagree with his political decisions and positions if nothing else he never shamed the office remotely close to what Trump has done in less than a year.
I respect people here who can admit the low character jerk Trump is but say they voted for him because of his party and that they disliked Clinton...that I dont care about but when people try and ignore and build up such a low life and ignore his horrid treatment of others..well that is acting just as bad as he does and that I do not care for.
I dont find disrespecting people to be entertainment, I dont find jokes at how Trump belittles women and so many people around him, how he throws his elitist life in the face of others and makes a mockery of this country. There is very little in the way of positive character from him and that is the only measurement I am interested in with regards to him.
Archive Material POST....From WALL himself...
I TOTALLY..Respectfully DISAGREE...
The Crusha...
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
SS,
My insults on Trump are due to his low quality of character and lack of leadership. His outright lies and deception to those who actually bit the line he tossed out there and how flippant and disrespectful he is and always has been. The guy is a moral loser and an embarrasment to the office and this country. My comments have nothing to do with you as a person and if you really can ignore what a disgusting joke he is then you really are not voting for the candidate, merely for the party and that is really bad news.
Obama held more respect for the office and others than Trump ever will and even if you disagree with his political decisions and positions if nothing else he never shamed the office remotely close to what Trump has done in less than a year.
I respect people here who can admit the low character jerk Trump is but say they voted for him because of his party and that they disliked Clinton...that I dont care about but when people try and ignore and build up such a low life and ignore his horrid treatment of others..well that is acting just as bad as he does and that I do not care for.
I dont find disrespecting people to be entertainment, I dont find jokes at how Trump belittles women and so many people around him, how he throws his elitist life in the face of others and makes a mockery of this country. There is very little in the way of positive character from him and that is the only measurement I am interested in with regards to him.
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So you went from 6 employees to 7 . that's successful
The Crusha...
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