Barrack Obama Americas greatest President

This man who literally came from the bootstraps, of pulling himself up to go to Harvard and get honors at that storied institution---a black man being elected President of these United States, after another republican jacksass drove the country to the brink of near ruin---GW Bush God almighty people, this dog painting asshole just because you wanted to drink a beer with him?

The greatest president? Woah full stop among the top 10 but the list of giants that held the presidency and truly changed America 

Washington,cementing a strong federal government to secure the land held by conquest Jefferson and lousinanna land purchase Monroe cementing America interests in both and south America,  Woodrow Wilson winning ww2 Roosevelt so many lists of accomplishments could be the greatest.

Yes Obama's administration did lead us out of the bunk house disaster of Aig and the mortgage melt down but the scandals over shadowed that administrstion. 

The worst president

Trump for his failed coop attempt.

he most certainly ranks very high and clearly among the greatest in our lifetime

here is obamas official ranking among modern era presidents according to the recent c-span presidential survey that fubah2 posted a month ago but first reported by thirdperson ::

True!

This bipartisan survey is not a lot different than the Siena College survey I have posted several timeson this forum.  The latests iteration from Siena was from last September.   REPUBLICANS Eisenhower and Reagan were both ranked higher than #17 Obama. Trump ranked #42 out of 44 but that was before he incited an insurrection, the BIG LIE, and now we learn how he secretly tried to overthrow the election results by weaponizing the DOJ.

The independent/bipartisan Presidential Greatness Rankings also came to more or less similar conclusions.

good point       massive lists of well respected presidential historians

Agreed! I'll defer to their far more experienced and far greater levels of post-secondary education and research than mine.  They spend a lifetime specifically in the field of their crafts and are very well respected for it.   Over 400 of them.

31 spots between obama and rump  

This is apparent though not quite as wide a spread in the other two most recent  bipartisan surveys.

Still quite wide separation though!

#44  is missing above    i think that is  a.johnson

Obama is one of the best presidents in US history according to Pew research and You Gov-Economist polls involving thousands of American adults.  Cspan and Siena polls are more objective because of two reasons.  First, presidential academics are better educated about all presidents than most people. Historical accuracy matters to them.

Secondly, presidents are compared to their peers and ranked on many different categories so partisanship doesn't matter here.  For examples, crisis management, performance under circumstances, relations with congress, administrative skill, moral authority, pursuit of equal justice for all, foreign relations, economic management, persuasion, etc.

  Biden is one of few keeping Owebama out of the cellar.