Well said Mugg
@THEMUGG
Bashing Biden while valid is partisan and narrow minded if you ignore the same or worse from the GOP. I make comments about all sides, I think you are stretching trying to pin me as partisan.
Where I take issue as a mod on here is about the rules of the site, so keep that in mind with your observations about me. If I seem biased about certain members, that has everything to do with the rules of the site and abuses towards other members and pretty much nothing to do with GOP vs DNC. Its pretty easy to see even just a few posts above how certain members make the digs and cant help themselves jumping in to kick when the opportunity is there, that kind of stuff is going to get on my radar but my actions as a linesman are just about the rules.
My comment to you was about being partisan, that if you want to pounce on Biden then pounce on any politician who deserves it, not just the silly party partisan approach.
@THEMUGG
Bashing Biden while valid is partisan and narrow minded if you ignore the same or worse from the GOP. I make comments about all sides, I think you are stretching trying to pin me as partisan.
Where I take issue as a mod on here is about the rules of the site, so keep that in mind with your observations about me. If I seem biased about certain members, that has everything to do with the rules of the site and abuses towards other members and pretty much nothing to do with GOP vs DNC. Its pretty easy to see even just a few posts above how certain members make the digs and cant help themselves jumping in to kick when the opportunity is there, that kind of stuff is going to get on my radar but my actions as a linesman are just about the rules.
My comment to you was about being partisan, that if you want to pounce on Biden then pounce on any politician who deserves it, not just the silly party partisan approach.
Took a few days off this politics section and look what I see, same freaking crap. Mugg, what's wrong with YOU? So freaking partisan! Why can't you be like the rest on here and just tell the truth about Trump.
Well, let's see; Ziegler, who identified himself as a gay Democrat with more than a dozen years serving within the IRS' criminal investigative division, appeared for the first time publicly Wednesday, while Shapley testified last month.
Ziegler told Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., that Hunter Biden, his family members and business associates received over $17 million due to business dealings in China, Ukraine and Romania.
Those deals included multimillion-dollar payments to Biden family-linked companies from 2014 to 2019, including $7.3 million from Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings.
"This brings the total amount of foreign income streams received to approximately $17 million, correct?" Comer asked Ziegler.
"That is correct," Ziegler responded.
"The purpose of documenting the foreign sources is part of a normal international tax investigation," Ziegler said. "We have to figure out where the money is coming from."
Comer; Despite creating many companies after vice president took office, the Biden family used associates companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies in China, Ukraine and Romania after foreign companies sent money to business associates companies," the chairman said. "The Bidens then received incremental payments over time to various different bank accounts. These complicated financial transactions were used deliberately to conceal the source of funds and total amounts. No normal business operates like this."
Took a few days off this politics section and look what I see, same freaking crap. Mugg, what's wrong with YOU? So freaking partisan! Why can't you be like the rest on here and just tell the truth about Trump.
Well, let's see; Ziegler, who identified himself as a gay Democrat with more than a dozen years serving within the IRS' criminal investigative division, appeared for the first time publicly Wednesday, while Shapley testified last month.
Ziegler told Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., that Hunter Biden, his family members and business associates received over $17 million due to business dealings in China, Ukraine and Romania.
Those deals included multimillion-dollar payments to Biden family-linked companies from 2014 to 2019, including $7.3 million from Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings.
"This brings the total amount of foreign income streams received to approximately $17 million, correct?" Comer asked Ziegler.
"That is correct," Ziegler responded.
"The purpose of documenting the foreign sources is part of a normal international tax investigation," Ziegler said. "We have to figure out where the money is coming from."
Comer; Despite creating many companies after vice president took office, the Biden family used associates companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies in China, Ukraine and Romania after foreign companies sent money to business associates companies," the chairman said. "The Bidens then received incremental payments over time to various different bank accounts. These complicated financial transactions were used deliberately to conceal the source of funds and total amounts. No normal business operates like this."
Ok, Hunter's bad so I'll never vote for him.
But you got nothing on Joe. He said I know nothing about my son's business dealings.
Hunter flew on Air Force One with dad to China! Used WhiteHouse staff to help him. The evidence is overwhelming yet you will never see it in USA Today and most all other media outlets.
YOU, and I am refering to many millions of people, are sooo fixated on getting potty mouth pushy Trump that YOU are willing to turn a blind eye to obvious corruption as it is a distraction to YOUR single goal. YOU are willing to F this country up in doing so and those in charge know it! Now as this damaging testimony is heard NEW charges are being drummed up for "Donny" and even Michigan gets in on the act anouncing their charges.
It's like who can play THEIR MUSIC the loudest and drown out the other.
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA
Ok, Hunter's bad so I'll never vote for him.
But you got nothing on Joe. He said I know nothing about my son's business dealings.
Hunter flew on Air Force One with dad to China! Used WhiteHouse staff to help him. The evidence is overwhelming yet you will never see it in USA Today and most all other media outlets.
YOU, and I am refering to many millions of people, are sooo fixated on getting potty mouth pushy Trump that YOU are willing to turn a blind eye to obvious corruption as it is a distraction to YOUR single goal. YOU are willing to F this country up in doing so and those in charge know it! Now as this damaging testimony is heard NEW charges are being drummed up for "Donny" and even Michigan gets in on the act anouncing their charges.
It's like who can play THEIR MUSIC the loudest and drown out the other.
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA
Obvious reason for House witch hunt is to cast doubts on Biden for 2024 election while ignoring Trump's worser misdeeds. Republicans want Hunter to go to jail for tax evasion but not Trump. These hypocrites want the IRS defunded so it couldn't audit the rich. The IRS doesn't lay charges in tax cases. Instead the IRS refers cases to justice department. No evidence justice department interfered with Hunter investigation by Trump appointee Weiss. He send letters disputing allegations of whistleblowers. No evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.
Obvious reason for House witch hunt is to cast doubts on Biden for 2024 election while ignoring Trump's worser misdeeds. Republicans want Hunter to go to jail for tax evasion but not Trump. These hypocrites want the IRS defunded so it couldn't audit the rich. The IRS doesn't lay charges in tax cases. Instead the IRS refers cases to justice department. No evidence justice department interfered with Hunter investigation by Trump appointee Weiss. He send letters disputing allegations of whistleblowers. No evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.
the Oxford English Dictionary does not list 'worser' as a modern English word.
"He send letters" should be He sent.
Would expect this kind of lack of mastery of the english language from a foriegn national or even a group of same, say.......Chinese maybe. Would explain a total lack of real interaction.
And what should Trump go to jail for? Your sentence implies tax evasion yet his taxes are now on full display. Maybe holding classified documents? Yet Biden had several too and he wasn't a president when he took them. And I wonder what Biden's docs were about? We will never know. Maybe Trump trying to "overthrow" an election by holding a protest and saying "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard," ? Nothing there.
--whistleblowers allege the FBI’s investigation forewarned Hunter Biden of any future searches for materials that could be used as evidence.
--Moreover, they say the DOJ twice prevented United States Attorney David Weiss from bringing stronger charges against Hunter Biden, that Attorney General Merrick Garland refused to name a special counsel in the tax investigation — which could have provided a degree of separation between Joe Biden and his Justice Department — and that the IRS recommended charges against Hunter Biden that were not approved by Garland.
--The whistleblower testimonies do mention Joe Biden as the “big guy.”
--They alleged Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf refused to allow investigators to ask about Joe Biden being “the big guy.” Wolf also allegedly cautioned the investigation team from searching Joe Biden’s guest house in Delaware for evidence against Hunter Biden because of “optics.”
--In addition, the whistleblowers allege Hunter Biden demanded in 2017 to be paid by a Chinese Communist Party (CCP)-linked Chinese businessman while Joe Biden was “sitting” next to him in a room, and that investigators wanted to obtain the location data to confirm Joe Biden was in the room. But there is no confidence the FBI obtained that data.
NOW WHY WOULD AN IRS AGENT WHO SAYS HE IS A DEMOCRAT STEP UP AND RISK HIS CAREER AND FACE PUBLIC SCRUTINY TO MAKE THESE CLAIMS? MAYBE BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW WRONG THIS ALL IS? I AM SURE HE WILL BE PUNISHED BY THE LEFT FOR THIS, IT'S WHAT THEY DO!
THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN JOE BIDEN.
the Oxford English Dictionary does not list 'worser' as a modern English word.
"He send letters" should be He sent.
Would expect this kind of lack of mastery of the english language from a foriegn national or even a group of same, say.......Chinese maybe. Would explain a total lack of real interaction.
And what should Trump go to jail for? Your sentence implies tax evasion yet his taxes are now on full display. Maybe holding classified documents? Yet Biden had several too and he wasn't a president when he took them. And I wonder what Biden's docs were about? We will never know. Maybe Trump trying to "overthrow" an election by holding a protest and saying "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard," ? Nothing there.
--whistleblowers allege the FBI’s investigation forewarned Hunter Biden of any future searches for materials that could be used as evidence.
--Moreover, they say the DOJ twice prevented United States Attorney David Weiss from bringing stronger charges against Hunter Biden, that Attorney General Merrick Garland refused to name a special counsel in the tax investigation — which could have provided a degree of separation between Joe Biden and his Justice Department — and that the IRS recommended charges against Hunter Biden that were not approved by Garland.
--The whistleblower testimonies do mention Joe Biden as the “big guy.”
--They alleged Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf refused to allow investigators to ask about Joe Biden being “the big guy.” Wolf also allegedly cautioned the investigation team from searching Joe Biden’s guest house in Delaware for evidence against Hunter Biden because of “optics.”
--In addition, the whistleblowers allege Hunter Biden demanded in 2017 to be paid by a Chinese Communist Party (CCP)-linked Chinese businessman while Joe Biden was “sitting” next to him in a room, and that investigators wanted to obtain the location data to confirm Joe Biden was in the room. But there is no confidence the FBI obtained that data.
NOW WHY WOULD AN IRS AGENT WHO SAYS HE IS A DEMOCRAT STEP UP AND RISK HIS CAREER AND FACE PUBLIC SCRUTINY TO MAKE THESE CLAIMS? MAYBE BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW WRONG THIS ALL IS? I AM SURE HE WILL BE PUNISHED BY THE LEFT FOR THIS, IT'S WHAT THEY DO!
THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN JOE BIDEN.
Well said thirdperson
Well said thirdperson
This is some third grade ring around the rosy pick your nose and put it on the desk pull the ponytail of the girl sitting in front of you schoolyard bullshit infesting itself in here amongst grown men …..
you should be embarrassed . Get into the discussion and answer each other because you are disrespecting your maker by not using your gifts and your thought processes to their fullest potential …..
how is this type of mediocrity allowed here ?
How are adult males who have lived on this planet a substantial amount of years doing this sort of childish tomfoolery ?
How are problems supposed to be solved ? Not this way that’s for sure . The avoidance of interaction simply propels forward the monster that is living in our midst ….
how are new posters even supposed to be enticed to even want to join in the conversation ?
when there is none ? You are cutting off the possibility of any new growth or thoughts from manifesting themselves . It’s a dead end .
Clear the cache of corrupted files and make room for some new data . good God man this is saying “ weenie “ and “ peenie “ over and over again without the corresponding laughter of kids who don’t know any better to not giggle at it ……
This is some third grade ring around the rosy pick your nose and put it on the desk pull the ponytail of the girl sitting in front of you schoolyard bullshit infesting itself in here amongst grown men …..
you should be embarrassed . Get into the discussion and answer each other because you are disrespecting your maker by not using your gifts and your thought processes to their fullest potential …..
how is this type of mediocrity allowed here ?
How are adult males who have lived on this planet a substantial amount of years doing this sort of childish tomfoolery ?
How are problems supposed to be solved ? Not this way that’s for sure . The avoidance of interaction simply propels forward the monster that is living in our midst ….
how are new posters even supposed to be enticed to even want to join in the conversation ?
when there is none ? You are cutting off the possibility of any new growth or thoughts from manifesting themselves . It’s a dead end .
Clear the cache of corrupted files and make room for some new data . good God man this is saying “ weenie “ and “ peenie “ over and over again without the corresponding laughter of kids who don’t know any better to not giggle at it ……
@spockgato
You are Monty Python searching for something that does not exist. People who are motivated to discuss politics most of the time are the most closed minded, partisan biased people out there. It takes a big effort to enter the politics arena and deal with the brutal realities that people are extremely resistant to ideas outside of their biases and are unwilling to see other perspectives and listen to reasonable discussion.
This forum is the perfect example of political closed mindedness and is a microcosm of our nature as humans, people here are not wanting to have discussion where differences are expressed, people listen and are actually motivated to learn and find out new perspectives and consider something that might be completely different than they have ever thought or felt. Most people here are bots on both sides, just throwing down garbage to try and put another side down or build up their political position, not really adding any value or making for good conversation. Most here are looking for any angle to take a shot at someone else because they have so little self confidence and feel that need to attack because someone else thinks differently, someone else challenges or questions their beliefs and opinions, someone else might actually put some doubt in their minds with solid reasoning which MIGHT mean they are making decisions for the WRONG reasons, for reasons of bias, partisanship, anger, frustration, reactive reasoning.
You might as well spin some poetry that nobody understands, it would get you further than to try and talk about common ground and changing the way people think and interact.
@spockgato
You are Monty Python searching for something that does not exist. People who are motivated to discuss politics most of the time are the most closed minded, partisan biased people out there. It takes a big effort to enter the politics arena and deal with the brutal realities that people are extremely resistant to ideas outside of their biases and are unwilling to see other perspectives and listen to reasonable discussion.
This forum is the perfect example of political closed mindedness and is a microcosm of our nature as humans, people here are not wanting to have discussion where differences are expressed, people listen and are actually motivated to learn and find out new perspectives and consider something that might be completely different than they have ever thought or felt. Most people here are bots on both sides, just throwing down garbage to try and put another side down or build up their political position, not really adding any value or making for good conversation. Most here are looking for any angle to take a shot at someone else because they have so little self confidence and feel that need to attack because someone else thinks differently, someone else challenges or questions their beliefs and opinions, someone else might actually put some doubt in their minds with solid reasoning which MIGHT mean they are making decisions for the WRONG reasons, for reasons of bias, partisanship, anger, frustration, reactive reasoning.
You might as well spin some poetry that nobody understands, it would get you further than to try and talk about common ground and changing the way people think and interact.
Simple solemn promises sitting idle languishing on the melancholy with marginal as the effort and chagrins as the paradox ….
pitying you for pitting two victims doomed with arbitrary who play with farcical till the misery shatters stabbing and doesn’t stop till it’s mopped up by the honesty in the Palm and the Hand of God …..
ne’er-do-wells and slobs , prepared to sacrifice their vision …..in order to spite their tongues , might as well run in front of the thunder bustling from a gun , attempting to catch them bullets , and their lust to decay , in your teeth like a parlor trick but if you miss dig a grave …..
cuz I’m in a form that’s rarely thought of , if it’s even ever been known , still breathing living with the loss of trust for everything I’m a ghost , in a zone , so tedious and taxing it takes my every minute , and my every ounce of strength , to pounce on it’s prowess without bowing down to it as I drown out it’s death , power , genuflect , I’ve been crossed but fuck the double , cuz I’m down to my single and it’s still just a cell , cuz this is hell is my rebuttal …….
Simple solemn promises sitting idle languishing on the melancholy with marginal as the effort and chagrins as the paradox ….
pitying you for pitting two victims doomed with arbitrary who play with farcical till the misery shatters stabbing and doesn’t stop till it’s mopped up by the honesty in the Palm and the Hand of God …..
ne’er-do-wells and slobs , prepared to sacrifice their vision …..in order to spite their tongues , might as well run in front of the thunder bustling from a gun , attempting to catch them bullets , and their lust to decay , in your teeth like a parlor trick but if you miss dig a grave …..
cuz I’m in a form that’s rarely thought of , if it’s even ever been known , still breathing living with the loss of trust for everything I’m a ghost , in a zone , so tedious and taxing it takes my every minute , and my every ounce of strength , to pounce on it’s prowess without bowing down to it as I drown out it’s death , power , genuflect , I’ve been crossed but fuck the double , cuz I’m down to my single and it’s still just a cell , cuz this is hell is my rebuttal …….
The only common ground for all of us here is to put that slimy bastard in jail. PERIOD
The only common ground for all of us here is to put that slimy bastard in jail. PERIOD
@nostradumbass
Right on cue a partisan angry poster has to add his one cent to the discussion. You wont find my defense of Biden anywhere on its own, but treason is more common than just Biden, so if you are about to blow your brain gasket over him please do the same for Trump, for any politician because that is the point.
You are the problem being combative, angry, biased, partisan and are not making any conversation or contribution at all.
@nostradumbass
Right on cue a partisan angry poster has to add his one cent to the discussion. You wont find my defense of Biden anywhere on its own, but treason is more common than just Biden, so if you are about to blow your brain gasket over him please do the same for Trump, for any politician because that is the point.
You are the problem being combative, angry, biased, partisan and are not making any conversation or contribution at all.
@nostradumbass
It's OK, treason is common now, so no big deal.
And if those are angry words you spewed, there must be a lot of hemorrahging going on in this political forum.
Am sure the FBI gives Trump a pass all the time just like Joe and Hilliary.
Setting up multiple LLC's, moving money around, providing no services, shaking down Chinese and Ukrainian bussinesmen, telling them to pay up cause Joe is in the room and angry, happens all the time. No big deal, all politicians do it. YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE OTHERS, NOT JUST JOE!
@nostradumbass
It's OK, treason is common now, so no big deal.
And if those are angry words you spewed, there must be a lot of hemorrahging going on in this political forum.
Am sure the FBI gives Trump a pass all the time just like Joe and Hilliary.
Setting up multiple LLC's, moving money around, providing no services, shaking down Chinese and Ukrainian bussinesmen, telling them to pay up cause Joe is in the room and angry, happens all the time. No big deal, all politicians do it. YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THOSE OTHERS, NOT JUST JOE!
anyway I am not partisan by any means, all politicians are crap and we'd probably all act like them if a lobbyist stuffed our pockets with money. ironically the problem with politics isn't partisan, it's wall street! no pun.
anyway I am not partisan by any means, all politicians are crap and we'd probably all act like them if a lobbyist stuffed our pockets with money. ironically the problem with politics isn't partisan, it's wall street! no pun.
therefore we need to remove all politicians interests in the stock market, if they don't oblige and are caught red handed like THE BIG GUY then those f-stains need to rot in hell. PERIOD
And BTW I am not really sure how Trump fits into this discussion but it is so typical for a PARTISAN.
therefore we need to remove all politicians interests in the stock market, if they don't oblige and are caught red handed like THE BIG GUY then those f-stains need to rot in hell. PERIOD
And BTW I am not really sure how Trump fits into this discussion but it is so typical for a PARTISAN.
@UNIMAN
They just keep lying and it's ok when you're protected by every branch of government because once any one of these lies are exposed, IT'S A HOUSE OF CARDS.
@UNIMAN
They just keep lying and it's ok when you're protected by every branch of government because once any one of these lies are exposed, IT'S A HOUSE OF CARDS.
@wallstreetcappers
Sorry dude but I don't think i was partisan in any way shape or form. but maybe u can point out what I said that leads you to believe that? there really is a legitimate FBI document that has Joe in checkmate.
I am sure he will get off but this one is really bad and someone needs to be the example because this shit is out of control!
@wallstreetcappers
Sorry dude but I don't think i was partisan in any way shape or form. but maybe u can point out what I said that leads you to believe that? there really is a legitimate FBI document that has Joe in checkmate.
I am sure he will get off but this one is really bad and someone needs to be the example because this shit is out of control!
I realize you and plenty others hate Trump because of all the propaganda from the elites but there is a reason why they want him silenced and Joe is one, of many, of those beneficiaries. And this revelation is just the tip of the iceberg.
I realize you and plenty others hate Trump because of all the propaganda from the elites but there is a reason why they want him silenced and Joe is one, of many, of those beneficiaries. And this revelation is just the tip of the iceberg.
So far, no proof of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. Johnson and other republicans acknowledge they couldn't confirm whether unverified FBI document claiming Ukraine bribes is true according to Associated press. For years, claims have been scrutinized by Trump justice department, Trump appointed attorney and impeachment trial of Trump. They have already been found to lack credibility. White house say republicans are playing shameless, dishonest politics and refuse to let truth get in the way of smearing Biden.
So far, no proof of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. Johnson and other republicans acknowledge they couldn't confirm whether unverified FBI document claiming Ukraine bribes is true according to Associated press. For years, claims have been scrutinized by Trump justice department, Trump appointed attorney and impeachment trial of Trump. They have already been found to lack credibility. White house say republicans are playing shameless, dishonest politics and refuse to let truth get in the way of smearing Biden.
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