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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 11:33 AM ET #76

    This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:

     

    As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife.

    In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd.

    Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations.

    Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories.

    ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work.

    That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners.

    To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state.

    The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns.

    Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year.

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    This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:

     

    As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife.

    In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd.

    Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations.

    Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories.

    ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work.

    That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners.

    To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state.

    The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns.

    Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 11:34 AM ET #77

    That is a much older article.  There are many newer ones with more recent studies done that explain all of this.

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    That is a much older article.  There are many newer ones with more recent studies done that explain all of this.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 11:37 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year.

    Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year.

    Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds.

    Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil. peace_5

    Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds.

    Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil. peace_5

    Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @StumpTownStu   Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds. Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil.  Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either.

    "Environmentalist" is a wide-net term. There are those who are vehemently opposed to wind turbines being birds are their shtick. There are those who vehemently opposed hydro-electricity because Salmon is their shtick. Or because there are against flooding valleys. There will always be someone. And frankly, we need it all. Solar, wind, hydro, and Alaskan reserves. It just all needs to be handled responsibly, and with proper planning. We can't give companies a free for all because those are OUR lands. It shouldn't be left at the behest of our government to put deals in place that rape the environment, enrich energy companies, and maybe save the people a few cents at the pump.

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    @StumpTownStu   Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds. Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil.  Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either.

    "Environmentalist" is a wide-net term. There are those who are vehemently opposed to wind turbines being birds are their shtick. There are those who vehemently opposed hydro-electricity because Salmon is their shtick. Or because there are against flooding valleys. There will always be someone. And frankly, we need it all. Solar, wind, hydro, and Alaskan reserves. It just all needs to be handled responsibly, and with proper planning. We can't give companies a free for all because those are OUR lands. It shouldn't be left at the behest of our government to put deals in place that rape the environment, enrich energy companies, and maybe save the people a few cents at the pump.

     
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    And while fracking was a huge boom to our domestic production, it is dirty business and it's not sustainable in the long run. All the more reason to increase focus on our Alaskan reserves. And I am an environmentalist.

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    And while fracking was a huge boom to our domestic production, it is dirty business and it's not sustainable in the long run. All the more reason to increase focus on our Alaskan reserves. And I am an environmentalist.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @StumpTownStu   Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds. Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil.  Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either. "Environmentalist" is a wide-net term. There are those who are vehemently opposed to wind turbines being birds are their shtick. There are those who vehemently opposed hydro-electricity because Salmon is their shtick. Or because there are against flooding valleys. There will always be someone. And frankly, we need it all. Solar, wind, hydro, and Alaskan reserves. It just all needs to be handled responsibly, and with proper planning. We can't give companies a free for all because those are OUR lands. It shouldn't be left at the behest of our government to put deals in place that rape the environment, enrich energy companies, and maybe save the people a few cents at the pump.

    Correct.  Many types and a lot of variables involved. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @StumpTownStu   Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This is not the article I was thinking of, but it gets the idea across.  Here is a portion of it talking about how the environmentalists exaggerate all of this for their agenda:   As they have since long before 1980, activists continue to claim that any drilling would destroy the entire ANWR area’s wilderness character and threaten its caribou, polar bears, birds and other wildlife. In all too typical hyperbole, League of Conservation Voters president Gene Karpinski claimed the tax law provision will “turn one of our last remaining wild places into an industrial oilfield.” That’s absurd. Alaska alone has 57 million acres (more than all of Utah) set aside as wilderness, plus tens of millions more wild acres off  limits to drilling in national park, wildlife refuge and similar designations. Nationwide, land several times the size of California is protected in these and other land use categories. ANWR is the size of South Carolina: 19 million acres. Of this, far fewer than 2,000 coastal plain acres would actually be disturbed by drilling, roads and other development work. That’s 0.01% of ANWR; one-twentieth of Washington, DC; 20 of the buildings in which Boeing manufactured its 747 jetliners. To claim this minimal impact will despoil the entire refuge is like saying a few farms and airports scattered along South Carolina’s northern border would kill wildlife and ruin scenery throughout the state. The potentially oil-rich coastal plain is actually flat, treeless tundra, 3,500 miles from Washington, DC – and 50 miles from the beautiful Brooks Range mountains that feature so prominently and deceptively in Sierra Club and other anti-drilling campaigns. Even more telling, the same environmentalists never object to forests of 400-foot-tall wind turbines installed in or next to forests, grasslands, wildlife sanctuaries, migratory bird flyways and other sensitive areas – where they slice and dice eagles, falcons, geese, bats and other magnificent flying creatures day after day, year after year. Environmentalist object to wind turbines all of the time because of birds. Not to the point that they stop promoting it over oil.  Environmentalists and animal right's activists are not necessarily one voice either. "Environmentalist" is a wide-net term. There are those who are vehemently opposed to wind turbines being birds are their shtick. There are those who vehemently opposed hydro-electricity because Salmon is their shtick. Or because there are against flooding valleys. There will always be someone. And frankly, we need it all. Solar, wind, hydro, and Alaskan reserves. It just all needs to be handled responsibly, and with proper planning. We can't give companies a free for all because those are OUR lands. It shouldn't be left at the behest of our government to put deals in place that rape the environment, enrich energy companies, and maybe save the people a few cents at the pump.

    Correct.  Many types and a lot of variables involved. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 12:09 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    And while fracking was a huge boom to our domestic production, it is dirty business and it's not sustainable in the long run. All the more reason to increase focus on our Alaskan reserves. And I am an environmentalist.

    Yes.  I think most reasonable people are environmentalists, especially if you like the outdoors.  Once you hike out into a pristine area you really appreciate it.

    But people have to be realists as well.  ANWR is an area where both can be done.  Not a lot of area nor folks and can be maintained easier, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    And while fracking was a huge boom to our domestic production, it is dirty business and it's not sustainable in the long run. All the more reason to increase focus on our Alaskan reserves. And I am an environmentalist.

    Yes.  I think most reasonable people are environmentalists, especially if you like the outdoors.  Once you hike out into a pristine area you really appreciate it.

    But people have to be realists as well.  ANWR is an area where both can be done.  Not a lot of area nor folks and can be maintained easier, etc.

     
     
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     Yeah.  Not a big fracking guy.  But I get that it may have its place from time to time.  But that is an instance I can get onboard against unless in dire times, and then it would have to be really particular. 

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     Yeah.  Not a big fracking guy.  But I get that it may have its place from time to time.  But that is an instance I can get onboard against unless in dire times, and then it would have to be really particular. 

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