That was kind of my point dipshit. You are using the oldest liberal trick in the book. That is, when you are called on your bullshit, change the subject, rather than defend it. You guys were asking for proof that waterboarding saved lives and then giving the
It is true that there is no way to prove it unless you are willing to accept the word of certain CIA members which you are clearly not going to do unless they support your liberal viewpoint. So it is a bullshit, loaded question. So if you liberals want conservatives to prove their premise, than I'm sure a liberal like you will be able to prove the other angle. So ball's in your court Waiting....
Its difficult debating someone whose second language is English. I will try to make "conherence" out of the incoherent.
1) The CIA operative who claimed that waterboarding saved lives later admitted that he was not even present during many of the interrogations.
2) That same operative has said that waterboarding should be outlawed.
3) If we are going to waterboard a person who has not even been convicted of a crime, shouldn't we be sure it actually works.
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Quote Originally Posted by rocky2278:
That was kind of my point dipshit. You are using the oldest liberal trick in the book. That is, when you are called on your bullshit, change the subject, rather than defend it. You guys were asking for proof that waterboarding saved lives and then giving the
It is true that there is no way to prove it unless you are willing to accept the word of certain CIA members which you are clearly not going to do unless they support your liberal viewpoint. So it is a bullshit, loaded question. So if you liberals want conservatives to prove their premise, than I'm sure a liberal like you will be able to prove the other angle. So ball's in your court Waiting....
Its difficult debating someone whose second language is English. I will try to make "conherence" out of the incoherent.
1) The CIA operative who claimed that waterboarding saved lives later admitted that he was not even present during many of the interrogations.
2) That same operative has said that waterboarding should be outlawed.
3) If we are going to waterboard a person who has not even been convicted of a crime, shouldn't we be sure it actually works.
It is true that there is no way to prove it unless you are willing to accept the word of certain CIA members which you are clearly not going to do unless they support your liberal viewpoint.
Your moronic response which proves my point:
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Its difficult debating someone whose second language is English. I will try to make "conherence" out of the incoherent.
1) The CIA operative who claimed that waterboarding saved lives later admitted that he was not even present during many of the interrogations. one agent who now has your viewpoint. see above highlighted text
2) That same operative has said that waterboarding should be outlawed. see above highlighted text
3) If we are going to waterboard a person who has not even been convicted of a crime, shouldn't we be sure it actually works.
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT!!!
So the ONE CIA agent that has "flipped" and his viewpoint is now in line with your liberal viewpoint is the one that you hold up on a pedestal and take his word as gospel. Meanwhile the other CIA agents that will say that it did work, are Bush/Cheney cronies and their views now are trumped by the ONE that fits your liberal agenda. Tunnel vision? Isn't that a convenient way to look at it?
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Part of my original post:
It is true that there is no way to prove it unless you are willing to accept the word of certain CIA members which you are clearly not going to do unless they support your liberal viewpoint.
Your moronic response which proves my point:
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Its difficult debating someone whose second language is English. I will try to make "conherence" out of the incoherent.
1) The CIA operative who claimed that waterboarding saved lives later admitted that he was not even present during many of the interrogations. one agent who now has your viewpoint. see above highlighted text
2) That same operative has said that waterboarding should be outlawed. see above highlighted text
3) If we are going to waterboard a person who has not even been convicted of a crime, shouldn't we be sure it actually works.
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT!!!
So the ONE CIA agent that has "flipped" and his viewpoint is now in line with your liberal viewpoint is the one that you hold up on a pedestal and take his word as gospel. Meanwhile the other CIA agents that will say that it did work, are Bush/Cheney cronies and their views now are trumped by the ONE that fits your liberal agenda. Tunnel vision? Isn't that a convenient way to look at it?
Once you have read the book (no pictures, sorry) we can continue this discussion.
In the meantime, do you have any evidence that waterboarding works? Any agent who said it did other than Kariakou who retracted those claims (see the book).
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Did you go to English class?
Here is a link to the book written by the operative who you continue to cite for your proposition that waterboarding works.
Once you have read the book (no pictures, sorry) we can continue this discussion.
In the meantime, do you have any evidence that waterboarding works? Any agent who said it did other than Kariakou who retracted those claims (see the book).
I have made no claims on here that waterboarding works. Show me where I have said waterboarding works. . Then show me where I have cited an operative and said that based on this operative that waterboarding works. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions because I got your liberal panties in a bunch. Go back and read what I have written. That should be easy for you to do, even with those liberal blinders.
I am questioning the question that was being asked. I stated there is no way to prove either way that waterboarding works or not so asking for a link to prove that it does is a BS question. Then you decided to jump on me with more bullshit which only further proves my point about you. That is you are only willing to have an open mind with CIA operatives who's opinion and viewpoint line up exactly with your liberal viewpoint. Thanks for making that so easy.
So to answer your question. NO I have no evidence that will say that 100% waterboarding works, just as you will not be able to 100% prove that it has save ZERO lives. And to argue this point further with an internet forum troll, loser with not much of a life is pointless. So I will let you rant and rave more if it makes you feel better that you have an open mind. Clearly you do not.
Sorry I can't play on here with you all day, but I have a life.
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I have made no claims on here that waterboarding works. Show me where I have said waterboarding works. . Then show me where I have cited an operative and said that based on this operative that waterboarding works. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions because I got your liberal panties in a bunch. Go back and read what I have written. That should be easy for you to do, even with those liberal blinders.
I am questioning the question that was being asked. I stated there is no way to prove either way that waterboarding works or not so asking for a link to prove that it does is a BS question. Then you decided to jump on me with more bullshit which only further proves my point about you. That is you are only willing to have an open mind with CIA operatives who's opinion and viewpoint line up exactly with your liberal viewpoint. Thanks for making that so easy.
So to answer your question. NO I have no evidence that will say that 100% waterboarding works, just as you will not be able to 100% prove that it has save ZERO lives. And to argue this point further with an internet forum troll, loser with not much of a life is pointless. So I will let you rant and rave more if it makes you feel better that you have an open mind. Clearly you do not.
Sorry I can't play on here with you all day, but I have a life.
I have made no claims on here that waterboarding works. Show me where I have said waterboarding works. . Then show me where I have cited an operative and said that based on this operative that waterboarding works. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions because I got your liberal panties in a bunch. Go back and read what I have written. That should be easy for you to do, even with those liberal blinders.
I am questioning the question that was being asked. I stated there is no way to prove either way that waterboarding works or not so asking for a link to prove that it does is a BS question. Then you decided to jump on me with more bullshit which only further proves my point about you. That is you are only willing to have an open mind with CIA operatives who's opinion and viewpoint line up exactly with your liberal viewpoint. Thanks for making that so easy.
So to answer your question. NO I have no evidence that will say that 100% waterboarding works, just as you will not be able to 100% prove that it has save ZERO lives. And to argue this point further with an internet forum troll, loser with not much of a life is pointless. So I will let you rant and rave more if it makes you feel better that you have an open mind. Clearly you do not.
Sorry I can't play on here with you all day, but I have a life.
Translation:
I cannot win this debate so I am going to put my tail between my legs and move on.
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Quote Originally Posted by rocky2278:
I have made no claims on here that waterboarding works. Show me where I have said waterboarding works. . Then show me where I have cited an operative and said that based on this operative that waterboarding works. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions because I got your liberal panties in a bunch. Go back and read what I have written. That should be easy for you to do, even with those liberal blinders.
I am questioning the question that was being asked. I stated there is no way to prove either way that waterboarding works or not so asking for a link to prove that it does is a BS question. Then you decided to jump on me with more bullshit which only further proves my point about you. That is you are only willing to have an open mind with CIA operatives who's opinion and viewpoint line up exactly with your liberal viewpoint. Thanks for making that so easy.
So to answer your question. NO I have no evidence that will say that 100% waterboarding works, just as you will not be able to 100% prove that it has save ZERO lives. And to argue this point further with an internet forum troll, loser with not much of a life is pointless. So I will let you rant and rave more if it makes you feel better that you have an open mind. Clearly you do not.
Sorry I can't play on here with you all day, but I have a life.
Translation:
I cannot win this debate so I am going to put my tail between my legs and move on.
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