Bye Bye legal recreational marijuana

 they are talking about states that do not interfere with state laws, Federal task force can couple with state task force,

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Media spins, then the lunatic fringe spins some more on the internet, and the end result is a bunch of very unhappy people 

Most people jerkoff to porn, but you def jerk off to TRUMP and his administration. It makes me want to vomit! 

to a locality for suspision of any known drug offenses. was the wording. To enhance Law and Order He invited The chiefs to corridinate a msg. we are here to assist you.


i'm having trouble understanding what the f*ck you are saying here. 


also, i went to a federal law seminar yesterday and of course the topic of trump and sessions came up.  we are already seeing some changes with doj policy.  as you'd expect it all seems pretty f*cking stupid and counterproductive so far but i don't think anyone really knows where it's headed since sessions just got confirmed, but tat guy is a moron and a disaster so no one is all that optimistic.

we all expect to see the feds handling more low level drug cases because, as i've mentioned many times before, that's what we call low hanging fruit.  they are easy cases and are good for stats so the doj can talk about how many more arrests they make and idiots think they are actually doing something about crime rather than throwing money down the black hole we all know as the war on drugs.  however, marijuana cases specifically didn't come up. 

immigration came up of course, and we are seeing a change in policy which appears to be as stupid and counterproductive as you'd expect a sessions policy to be along with trump who knows nothing about how immigration works.  but again, these things are just getting started so they will probably evolve over time.

however, the prevailing theme of the new policies seems to be to waste money and shift limited resources to counterproductive tactics that are good for stats and make good headlines so the idiots think things are getting accomplished when in fact the more important and difficult issues are being ignored.

back to the original topic, i'm not sure where marijuana arrests fit into that picture.  marijuana arrests are perfect for lazy, incompetent police and prosecutors but don't really fit into the trump smokescreen that they are making america safer because all but the dumbest trump supporters know that going after marijuana is stupid and a huge waste of money and resources. but sessions is pretty f*cking dumb and trump doesn't seem to give a garbage about anything but grifting and his rich cronies so they might do it anyway.  i guess we'll see. 

So I am fine if they kick it out, those guys who want it so badly and need it will keep using, just like they did before. 

I think the medicinal value is worth having it controlled and administered, but not to smoke and for sure not recreationally. I think its uses can be extracted and administered without the need to smoke and especially not where there are thousands of variations, that to me is quite telling about those users and their intentions.

I dont like knowing that there is yet another substance out there which our youth can be influenced by and can negatively impact how kids are socially challenged.

So for sure let the extraction value stick, the rest I could do without and I do not see the intrinsic social VALUE in allowing recreational use...notice I did not reference the prison/police angle at all in my analysis..only social value and social cost as to influence.

If you had or have kids, my argument is not weak at all..parents responsibility has nothing to do with my comments. I mentioned in very specific detail what my concerns were, I think you are so mad at the administration that you missed my points.

I only speak about social benefit vs social cost..not taxpayer cost or political cost or religious beliefs, none of that. In fact if you have any ability to analyze you would know I am never about mixing personal or religious opinions with politics, I support the laws as they exist even if I do not agree with some things personally. If I am so against a law that I need to try and make a change and I feel I can, I and everyone should try to do so INSIDE the laws as they exist.

From only a social perspective, I do not see the benefits worth the social cost. Kids are faced with social challenges which have nothing to do with parents and everything to do with peer pressure and choice. If I had my way (which I dont) I would remove all and any addiction influences on kids and teens, the damage it causes and lives it changes are like no other. When kids face pressures from cigs, alkie, pot, vaping, etc etc it stops the ability for them to learn, explore and develop in ways we will never know. Kids that alter their lives due to these influences could have experienced completely different outcomes and developed into much greater social contributors and stronger people.

Social cost vs social benefit...that is the only point I am forwarding. I dont know what anyone could argue against my point, there is nothing to argue.

Oh I think it is possible, there are ways kids can be isolated from these influences..it happens every day. It takes a great effort and a high cost to do so from a time perspective but for sure if the environment is set properly these influences can be reduced to a large degree.

Same goes in the opposite direction, if controls are poor then the influences can be greater.

There are choices that can be made to protect our youth and costs that come with those choices. 

An example for me specifically is where we live there are some super large high schools that are new and have some great benefits...but these same schools have issues with drugs, peer grouping etc etc and that is well known and is a problem. So when the time comes (and unfortunately it is coming sooner than I like) we have decided to take a different path for high school to avoid these influences and rather will take the time and spend the money to attend a school with a smaller campus, college focused and less influenced socially from these issues.

I dont like the "there is no way to" approach, and I also for sure do not agree that wide social acceptance means less peer pressure, in fact to me it means more exposure and more risk. I think we for sure look at things from a different perspective, I do not think there is even close to the commensurate social benefit to outweigh the social cost of wide acceptance of pot.

The topic of police and taxpayers, that isnt really even the point to me. These exist now, we have police we have prisons we have courts..these are not due to pot only or exclusively. 

Also, I will never get past the issue of smoking pot...smoking pot is dangerous on its own, there is no way of side stepping this point, smoking ANYTHING is dangerous and a health concern and rationalizing that vs cigs or cloves or basil or any plant that can e dried makes no sense to me. Smoking is harmful period, plus there is more than enough evidence out there that shows the toxicity of the chemicals in pot multiply the issue (in a similar way to saying that unfiltered vs filtered etc).

So I cant get past the issue of smoking, nothing else really matters about police, taxpayers etc...I cannot and will not personally accept the legalization of smoking pot and the harm it does to the body.

Extract the benefit, use that to help in ways it does, outside that I dont see any reason to allow it at all.