Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Of course that is the argument used (and will in this thread many times I am sure) but there are lines drawn in any civilized society and I guess I am of the opinion that pot deserves to be inside the boundaries that keeps it away from recreational users.
I think the medicinal value is worth having it controlled and administered, but not to smoke and for sure not recreationally. I think its uses can be extracted and administered without the need to smoke and especially not where there are thousands of variations, that to me is quite telling about those users and their intentions.
I dont like knowing that there is yet another substance out there which our youth can be influenced by and can negatively impact how kids are socially challenged.
So for sure let the extraction value stick, the rest I could do without and I do not see the intrinsic social VALUE in allowing recreational use...notice I did not reference the prison/police angle at all in my analysis..only social value and social cost as to influence.
I don't think the "boundaries that keep it away from recreational users" are working as you wrote previously, since those that to to use will still use as also stated previously in your quotes.
Furthermore, the "lines drawn in any civilized society" do not need to be drawn based a person of your opinion deciding what I am allowed to put in my body in the privacy of my own home.
You also wrote you would ban alcohol and tobacco, I suppose guns are also on your list? You believe the triggers squeeze themselves?
Glad to see you acknowledge the medicinal benefit, but if you are agreeing it is beneficial to society in a medical capacity, then why would you want to keep those benefits illegal?
"That to me, is quite telling about those users and their intentions", as you also wrote above, sounds very judgmental for someone who has supposedly never even tried the herb.
Unfortunately, according to many of your statements on the topic up to this point, I am quite certain your garbage never stinks. "Legalize it, don't criticize it", as the great Peter Tosh once sang truly.
Of course there are "thousands of variations" and illegal dealers when it is not taxed and regulated market.
Not sure about your whole "knowing there is yet another substance out there which our youth can be influenced by" statement comes from. Cannibus Has been around for a very long time if you know the history, and thiugh it had been illegal for a long time as well, as yourself admit, continues to be part of society despite unsuccessful efforts to criminalize it's use.
If you were to use the prison/police angle what would it consist of? The fact that the prisons are full of non-violent drug users and police could use time spent pursuing and arresting these who for the greater percentage are otherwise upstanding, tax paying citizens who were contributing to society in a positive way.
It doesn't take long to Internet search all the stories of individual's and their families lives who have been wrongly incarcerated and for ever scarred due to current legislation.
The total social cost to society for criminalizing the marijuana plant and it's use well beyond what legalization would bring. In fact, going from spending tax money to enforce the law to taxing the market to support society for a benefit to society obviously adds value as well.