@witswits And what about crime from white men with guns who go crazy and shoot up a bunch of kids people at church people at concerts how will that ever get fixed?
I think you made the point that all races can create horrible crimes. You seem to want to only point to white people for some reason. You probably agree with putting the leading opponent of a upcoming election in jail, rather then allowing democracy to work and the citizens vote who they want to lead the Country.
Lets go back to the topic at hand on the cartels sending all races of people into the US. Biden on day one in office reversing so many polices that caused this. Biden can once again tell Mexico that they have to remain in Mexico or he will tariff them like the former leader did. Seems we had control and the massive did not see free everything that is now offered.
I am surprised many of the illegals that are here now, do not go to Mexico and re-enter for a ever better deal now. Free housing, schooling, healthcare and handouts galore. The homeless US citizens or vets on the street do not have it that good.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
@witswits And what about crime from white men with guns who go crazy and shoot up a bunch of kids people at church people at concerts how will that ever get fixed?
I think you made the point that all races can create horrible crimes. You seem to want to only point to white people for some reason. You probably agree with putting the leading opponent of a upcoming election in jail, rather then allowing democracy to work and the citizens vote who they want to lead the Country.
Lets go back to the topic at hand on the cartels sending all races of people into the US. Biden on day one in office reversing so many polices that caused this. Biden can once again tell Mexico that they have to remain in Mexico or he will tariff them like the former leader did. Seems we had control and the massive did not see free everything that is now offered.
I am surprised many of the illegals that are here now, do not go to Mexico and re-enter for a ever better deal now. Free housing, schooling, healthcare and handouts galore. The homeless US citizens or vets on the street do not have it that good.
@Raiders22 How many migrant murders in total have happened since they've been coming over Tye last couple of years?
Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates.
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Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:
@Raiders22 How many migrant murders in total have happened since they've been coming over Tye last couple of years?
Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates.
Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates.
An awful lot wrong with this logic.
Of course, by sheer numbers, the legal citizens outnumber the illegals. Per capita is different as well. Even if it is one crime it is one that would have been prevented if they were not there. Just by being in the country they are by definition criminals by violating that country's laws for entry -- no matter how the country has redefined the act itself.
Crime is simply one of many reasons not to allow illegals in. Even if they commit zero crimes they shouldn't be allowed in illegally. Any crime they then commit is just one of very many reasons to not allow them in.
BUT maybe the more the crimes that they DO commit make the news, it might change enough of the folks on the Left's mind to put a stop to it.
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@thirdperson
Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates.
An awful lot wrong with this logic.
Of course, by sheer numbers, the legal citizens outnumber the illegals. Per capita is different as well. Even if it is one crime it is one that would have been prevented if they were not there. Just by being in the country they are by definition criminals by violating that country's laws for entry -- no matter how the country has redefined the act itself.
Crime is simply one of many reasons not to allow illegals in. Even if they commit zero crimes they shouldn't be allowed in illegally. Any crime they then commit is just one of very many reasons to not allow them in.
BUT maybe the more the crimes that they DO commit make the news, it might change enough of the folks on the Left's mind to put a stop to it.
@thirdperson Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates. An awful lot wrong with this logic. Of course, by sheer numbers, the legal citizens outnumber the illegals. Per capita is different as well. Even if it is one crime it is one that would have been prevented if they were not there. Just by being in the country they are by definition criminals by violating that country's laws for entry -- no matter how the country has redefined the act itself. Crime is simply one of many reasons not to allow illegals in. Even if they commit zero crimes they shouldn't be allowed in illegally. Any crime they then commit is just one of very many reasons to not allow them in. BUT maybe the more the crimes that they DO commit make the news, it might change enough of the folks on the Left's mind to put a stop to it.
Many of the crimes go unreported as well and they will not turn anyone over to I.C.E for deporting. It is the biggest mess and the Biden migrant crime will haunt this Country for many decades. Some of the worst of the worst people imaginable are being released from prisons and insane asylums into the US. This cannot end well for anyone.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@thirdperson Vast majority of homicides are committed by native born Americans. According to Cato institute study, more enforcement of immigration laws won't change crime rates. Deporting all illegal and asylum immigrants wouldn't reduce crime rates. An awful lot wrong with this logic. Of course, by sheer numbers, the legal citizens outnumber the illegals. Per capita is different as well. Even if it is one crime it is one that would have been prevented if they were not there. Just by being in the country they are by definition criminals by violating that country's laws for entry -- no matter how the country has redefined the act itself. Crime is simply one of many reasons not to allow illegals in. Even if they commit zero crimes they shouldn't be allowed in illegally. Any crime they then commit is just one of very many reasons to not allow them in. BUT maybe the more the crimes that they DO commit make the news, it might change enough of the folks on the Left's mind to put a stop to it.
Many of the crimes go unreported as well and they will not turn anyone over to I.C.E for deporting. It is the biggest mess and the Biden migrant crime will haunt this Country for many decades. Some of the worst of the worst people imaginable are being released from prisons and insane asylums into the US. This cannot end well for anyone.
@witswits White people will be a minority within two generations.. People better learn to deal with it. Actually, most of us won't even be around anymore.
Within two generations, you say? Phew! I was wondering who I was gonna bone.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@witswits White people will be a minority within two generations.. People better learn to deal with it. Actually, most of us won't even be around anymore.
Within two generations, you say? Phew! I was wondering who I was gonna bone.
Not sure the Mayorkas impeachment will get too far. Seems everyone wants this fixed except the Biden administration. Many Dems may be forced to get behind Trump soon if they want to stay in office as this is the top issues is many States.,
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Not sure the Mayorkas impeachment will get too far. Seems everyone wants this fixed except the Biden administration. Many Dems may be forced to get behind Trump soon if they want to stay in office as this is the top issues is many States.,
is it really Rightwing , Radical , "MAGA" when you want - Secure Borders - Safe and clean cities - dont bankrupt America with out of control spending - Racism against any race is wrong - no sterilization below the age of consent The Biden Regime created all the issues listed above , Donald John Trump has the way better politics to correct this
Very well said. Hard to imagine most Americans do not want what we had just 4 short years ago and a good direction for the Country.
I like to see when they focus on the American flag for our youth and not just different rainbow flags. Pride in my day was something you had for your Country.
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Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:
is it really Rightwing , Radical , "MAGA" when you want - Secure Borders - Safe and clean cities - dont bankrupt America with out of control spending - Racism against any race is wrong - no sterilization below the age of consent The Biden Regime created all the issues listed above , Donald John Trump has the way better politics to correct this
Very well said. Hard to imagine most Americans do not want what we had just 4 short years ago and a good direction for the Country.
I like to see when they focus on the American flag for our youth and not just different rainbow flags. Pride in my day was something you had for your Country.
Senate is right to immediately dismiss baseless impeachment of Mayorkas. He is charged with failing to comply with immigration laws that previous administrations and supreme court have determined to be impossible to execute with limited resources. No court of law has determined that Mayorkas has violated any law. So congress shouldn't waste time on partisan exercise for republican political gain when there is important work to do.
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Senate is right to immediately dismiss baseless impeachment of Mayorkas. He is charged with failing to comply with immigration laws that previous administrations and supreme court have determined to be impossible to execute with limited resources. No court of law has determined that Mayorkas has violated any law. So congress shouldn't waste time on partisan exercise for republican political gain when there is important work to do.
@thirdperson I somewhat agree as Biden did not protect America from the invasion at the border and should be the one impeached.
Unlike Trump impeachments,l GOP house has failed to find any evidence of high crime by Biden despite starting impeachment inquiry before Mayorkas. House delay shows republicans rather engage in smear campaign in election year instead of accepting bipartisan senate bill to address broken immigration system.
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Quote Originally Posted by witswits:
@thirdperson I somewhat agree as Biden did not protect America from the invasion at the border and should be the one impeached.
Unlike Trump impeachments,l GOP house has failed to find any evidence of high crime by Biden despite starting impeachment inquiry before Mayorkas. House delay shows republicans rather engage in smear campaign in election year instead of accepting bipartisan senate bill to address broken immigration system.
We knew that Chucky would be whining about this, he said that congress should talk it out..... right just like they talked it out those two times for Trump. Speaking of the bipartisan senate bill to address broken immigration system, that garbage is not a bill worth bringing to the floor!! Chuck and Joe want to use a trash bill to argue the republicans won't pass a trash bill. If you opened a home water bill of 5 grand would you just cut a check and pay it? Or would you call and dispute it when its usually $120....
Also how many pages was this "bipartisan bill" and wasn't it delivered at 3 am and due in just a few hours? just look it up at fact check
The $118 Billion bill, called the Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, sought significant changes in border policy. It included money to build more border barriers, to greatly expand detention facilities, and to hire more Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol agents, asylum officers and immigration judges to reduce the years-long backlog in cases to determine asylum eligibility. It sought to expedite the asylum process, essentially ending, in most cases, the so-called “catch and release” policy whereby migrants are released into the U.S. pending asylum hearings. And it would have increased the standard of evidence needed to win asylum status.
The bill also would have supplied more funding to interdict fentanyl and human trafficking, and it included $60 billion in aid for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel.
This all sounds like Sunday brunch with Mimosa's, right? Then why put a number in the terms?
The bill stated that temporary border emergency authority would be automatically activated by the Department of Homeland Security secretary if there is an average of 5,000 or more migrant encounters a day over seven consecutive days — or if there are 8,500 or more such encounters on any single day. In December, according to the latest data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — there was an average of more than 8,000 encounters a day of migrants who crossed the border illegally between points of entry.
So, then we will be splitting hairs and actual numbers, who's in charge of the count? Vegas? or the guy that is/was/is still? in charge of the border.
words like '5k or more' and 'discretionary activation' is why this bill won't pass. Be smarter than the tube!
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We knew that Chucky would be whining about this, he said that congress should talk it out..... right just like they talked it out those two times for Trump. Speaking of the bipartisan senate bill to address broken immigration system, that garbage is not a bill worth bringing to the floor!! Chuck and Joe want to use a trash bill to argue the republicans won't pass a trash bill. If you opened a home water bill of 5 grand would you just cut a check and pay it? Or would you call and dispute it when its usually $120....
Also how many pages was this "bipartisan bill" and wasn't it delivered at 3 am and due in just a few hours? just look it up at fact check
The $118 Billion bill, called the Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, sought significant changes in border policy. It included money to build more border barriers, to greatly expand detention facilities, and to hire more Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol agents, asylum officers and immigration judges to reduce the years-long backlog in cases to determine asylum eligibility. It sought to expedite the asylum process, essentially ending, in most cases, the so-called “catch and release” policy whereby migrants are released into the U.S. pending asylum hearings. And it would have increased the standard of evidence needed to win asylum status.
The bill also would have supplied more funding to interdict fentanyl and human trafficking, and it included $60 billion in aid for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel.
This all sounds like Sunday brunch with Mimosa's, right? Then why put a number in the terms?
The bill stated that temporary border emergency authority would be automatically activated by the Department of Homeland Security secretary if there is an average of 5,000 or more migrant encounters a day over seven consecutive days — or if there are 8,500 or more such encounters on any single day. In December, according to the latest data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — there was an average of more than 8,000 encounters a day of migrants who crossed the border illegally between points of entry.
So, then we will be splitting hairs and actual numbers, who's in charge of the count? Vegas? or the guy that is/was/is still? in charge of the border.
words like '5k or more' and 'discretionary activation' is why this bill won't pass. Be smarter than the tube!
Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed.
The "inflation reduction act" and "green new deal" crap is exactly that, CRAP! They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
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@soup-can
Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed.
The "inflation reduction act" and "green new deal" crap is exactly that, CRAP! They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
@soup-can Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed. The "inflation reduction act" and "green new deal" crap is exactly that, CRAP! They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
You make too much sense.
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Quote Originally Posted by witswits:
@soup-can Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed. The "inflation reduction act" and "green new deal" crap is exactly that, CRAP! They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
Who would vote for "up to 5,000 illegals a day allowed to cross ANY border"? This is insanity and why would they think it was acceptable to push a amnesty bill in the dark of night.
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@UNIMAN
Who would vote for "up to 5,000 illegals a day allowed to cross ANY border"? This is insanity and why would they think it was acceptable to push a amnesty bill in the dark of night.
@soup-can Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed. They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
Under proposed bill, homeland security department is given power to shutdown border if border encounters exceed 5000 daily. Under current law, border cannot be shutdown without a emergency such as a pandemic. Courts have ruled immigration isn't an invasion. Border patrol stop most migrants. But there is not supposed to be zero immigration.
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Quote Originally Posted by witswits:
@soup-can Could not said it better. The immigration bill allowing 5,000 illegal aliens in daily is amnesty and nothing more. Why is any illegal allowed in? We have laws stating this is not allowed. They must think Americans are really stupid to try and sneak a amnesty bill past us in the dark of night on a day's notice.
Under proposed bill, homeland security department is given power to shutdown border if border encounters exceed 5000 daily. Under current law, border cannot be shutdown without a emergency such as a pandemic. Courts have ruled immigration isn't an invasion. Border patrol stop most migrants. But there is not supposed to be zero immigration.
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