Midnite - I rechecked and you did not answer the question. If there are not 5 things Trump has done right, just say so. The sarcasm answer is only sidesteppin. Tx once again - Is that the back n forth sh it I didn't want to get into? HAHA
Snorkel..you can look in the Impeachment thread where you will find it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Midnite - I rechecked and you did not answer the question. If there are not 5 things Trump has done right, just say so. The sarcasm answer is only sidesteppin. Tx once again - Is that the back n forth sh it I didn't want to get into? HAHA
Snorkel..you can look in the Impeachment thread where you will find it.
Headed to the bar - have a good one and please lets not go thru the whole list
You didnt answer the question. If you do not like someone actually following up with your claims then DO NOT MAKE THEM. If you want to pat someone on the back then do more than troll a political blog, cut and paste and expect everyone to just go along with your words.
Just so you know the increase your pal is bragging about is right in line with the increase percentage from the past decade. Translation, he did nothing..nothing outstanding at all. The 73 is discretionary, the rest of the funding was mandatory and congress did this, Trump just signed it.
You cannot try and tell a story which is a lie and then go running off to the bar when someone actually looks up what you are saying and questions it. I think you are better off hanging out on the conservative blog message boards and stay away from this area where I and others will put you to the task when you say things.
Are you ready for me to debunk #2?
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Headed to the bar - have a good one and please lets not go thru the whole list
You didnt answer the question. If you do not like someone actually following up with your claims then DO NOT MAKE THEM. If you want to pat someone on the back then do more than troll a political blog, cut and paste and expect everyone to just go along with your words.
Just so you know the increase your pal is bragging about is right in line with the increase percentage from the past decade. Translation, he did nothing..nothing outstanding at all. The 73 is discretionary, the rest of the funding was mandatory and congress did this, Trump just signed it.
You cannot try and tell a story which is a lie and then go running off to the bar when someone actually looks up what you are saying and questions it. I think you are better off hanging out on the conservative blog message boards and stay away from this area where I and others will put you to the task when you say things.
Hey joe - same question ill ask to all - is there anything you agree with that Trump has done right for our country? Can you give me 5?
Try to be respectful to peeps that simply disagree with you. Isn't disagreeing an American virtue? Look forward to a response
or rant, whichever u choose.
[/Quote lets face it he's done mostly bad things . He’s more personally corrupt than Chester Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that loser revolving door personal in he White House like the lingering smell of reheated Big Macs and a paycheck . This is a man that has promised everything and delivered to the top 2% ..Don't get me wrong AOC has no place in my heart and will be nothing more than a chronic beefier for as long as she last but ...Trump is bad for this country. 5 thing no ...He’s a cheerleader with A lot of P T Barnum study in him
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Snorkel]
Hey joe - same question ill ask to all - is there anything you agree with that Trump has done right for our country? Can you give me 5?
Try to be respectful to peeps that simply disagree with you. Isn't disagreeing an American virtue? Look forward to a response
or rant, whichever u choose.
[/Quote lets face it he's done mostly bad things . He’s more personally corrupt than Chester Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that loser revolving door personal in he White House like the lingering smell of reheated Big Macs and a paycheck . This is a man that has promised everything and delivered to the top 2% ..Don't get me wrong AOC has no place in my heart and will be nothing more than a chronic beefier for as long as she last but ...Trump is bad for this country. 5 thing no ...He’s a cheerleader with A lot of P T Barnum study in him
It's a loaded question that doesn't warrant an answer. Or more so, one can simply answer, "There aren't five." or, "There aren't any." In simply asking, you're assuming there is an answer and that the one being asked is choosing not to acknowledge it.
Frankly, the way some of you go back and forth in this forum is mind blowing. It's amazing that select few of you never seem to tire of it. You've got people like my boy, Slim, or tox, that used to be super active.... and now, not so much. Even I, myself, was very active in the forums at one point, and now not so much. Then you have others who have hashing and rehashing the same things over and over again. Things change but my rarely do. And so these arguments, by proxy, never much change either. Yet here you guys are, every day, saying the same thing over and over again.
I just think it's funny they act like they cannot find anything good at all to say. None of them want to talk policy when anyone asks them to. They want to start off by asking a question themselves, then going on a rant and calling Trump names -- instead of discussing policy.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
It's a loaded question that doesn't warrant an answer. Or more so, one can simply answer, "There aren't five." or, "There aren't any." In simply asking, you're assuming there is an answer and that the one being asked is choosing not to acknowledge it.
Frankly, the way some of you go back and forth in this forum is mind blowing. It's amazing that select few of you never seem to tire of it. You've got people like my boy, Slim, or tox, that used to be super active.... and now, not so much. Even I, myself, was very active in the forums at one point, and now not so much. Then you have others who have hashing and rehashing the same things over and over again. Things change but my rarely do. And so these arguments, by proxy, never much change either. Yet here you guys are, every day, saying the same thing over and over again.
I just think it's funny they act like they cannot find anything good at all to say. None of them want to talk policy when anyone asks them to. They want to start off by asking a question themselves, then going on a rant and calling Trump names -- instead of discussing policy.
It's a loaded question that doesn't warrant an answer. Or more so, one can simply answer, "There aren't five." or, "There aren't any." In simply asking, you're assuming there is an answer and that the one being asked is choosing not to acknowledge it. Frankly, the way some of you go back and forth in this forum is mind blowing. It's amazing that select few of you never seem to tire of it. You've got people like my boy, Slim, or tox, that used to be super active.... and now, not so much. Even I, myself, was very active in the forums at one point, and now not so much. Then you have others who have hashing and rehashing the same things over and over again. Things change but my rarely do. And so these arguments, by proxy, never much change either. Yet here you guys are, every day, saying the same thing over and over again.
I just think it's funny they act like they cannot find anything good at all to say. None of them want to talk policy when anyone asks them to. They want to start off by asking a question themselves, then going on a rant and calling Trump names -- instead of discussing policy.
Time out Raiders...
I offered to discuss any topic with you & asked that you pick the topic.
You haven't responded. Don't make some bullshit claim that no one will discuss topics.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
It's a loaded question that doesn't warrant an answer. Or more so, one can simply answer, "There aren't five." or, "There aren't any." In simply asking, you're assuming there is an answer and that the one being asked is choosing not to acknowledge it. Frankly, the way some of you go back and forth in this forum is mind blowing. It's amazing that select few of you never seem to tire of it. You've got people like my boy, Slim, or tox, that used to be super active.... and now, not so much. Even I, myself, was very active in the forums at one point, and now not so much. Then you have others who have hashing and rehashing the same things over and over again. Things change but my rarely do. And so these arguments, by proxy, never much change either. Yet here you guys are, every day, saying the same thing over and over again.
I just think it's funny they act like they cannot find anything good at all to say. None of them want to talk policy when anyone asks them to. They want to start off by asking a question themselves, then going on a rant and calling Trump names -- instead of discussing policy.
Time out Raiders...
I offered to discuss any topic with you & asked that you pick the topic.
You haven't responded. Don't make some bullshit claim that no one will discuss topics.
I understand he asked Joe the question. But this is my point -- you made sure to get a question in. Then you DEMAND your question be answered.We all know that you do not like Trump and would never admit that he did anything good.We also understand that you never answer questions anyway.
HA....oh thats cute. I answer questions all day long, but you cannot say that. I asked questions as turn about is fair play. He didnt ask me questions, and if he likes to throw out the request how can he not answer the SAME question himself? He asked for 5 things, I asked for 5 things the same way he did.
What is so difficult?
Its ok I know you cant handle the back and forth with me, you like to play the victim role but have a long long history with me of avoidance. I will answer questions, can you say the same thing? (oh I know thats a question right)
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
You didnt answer the question.
I understand he asked Joe the question. But this is my point -- you made sure to get a question in. Then you DEMAND your question be answered.We all know that you do not like Trump and would never admit that he did anything good.We also understand that you never answer questions anyway.
HA....oh thats cute. I answer questions all day long, but you cannot say that. I asked questions as turn about is fair play. He didnt ask me questions, and if he likes to throw out the request how can he not answer the SAME question himself? He asked for 5 things, I asked for 5 things the same way he did.
What is so difficult?
Its ok I know you cant handle the back and forth with me, you like to play the victim role but have a long long history with me of avoidance. I will answer questions, can you say the same thing? (oh I know thats a question right)
Yep I can always answer. I wasn't asked anything. But the fellow asked a straightforward question.
It may have been addressed to Joe. But in several other threads questions like this have been asked to all of the Liberals in here. Very rarely can any engage without resorting to name-calling.
You can call it cute -- I call it ridiculous. The irrational, blind hatred of the guy is over the top to me.
Never a victim here -- and trust me, most folks realize you are the one that avoids answering straightforward questions.
If you want to answer -- answer in any of these threads. Don't just cheerlead the rest of the Left. It is very unnecessary.
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Yep I can always answer. I wasn't asked anything. But the fellow asked a straightforward question.
It may have been addressed to Joe. But in several other threads questions like this have been asked to all of the Liberals in here. Very rarely can any engage without resorting to name-calling.
You can call it cute -- I call it ridiculous. The irrational, blind hatred of the guy is over the top to me.
Never a victim here -- and trust me, most folks realize you are the one that avoids answering straightforward questions.
If you want to answer -- answer in any of these threads. Don't just cheerlead the rest of the Left. It is very unnecessary.
Wall - challenge accepted - but- you can't use mine to give your answer. I can give you 50 but ill stick with 5-(1st - I can't control
the squibb that comes out - words all over the place- structure wise) 1 -Secured 73.1 billion in funding for VA to provide quality
medical care for our vets and revolutionizing the VA healthcare system. 2) The unemployment rate has only fell below 4% 5 times
since 1970 - It has been below 4% 8 times this year.3) has got NATO countries to fess up their share - Is that an advantage to all
us taxpayers?.4) Kept us out of Nafta number 2 - the TPP. 5)American coal exports increased by 60% in 2017. 6)Deregulation ,
although we still need some (But not a zillion) making us energy independent for first time ever (out the window if Dems elected.
7 thru ? - Best economy ever, stock market records,annual GDP rates of 3.4,5 million job created,jobless claims at 50-year low,
13 million off food stamps, 284,000 manufacturing jobs most since 1997. made 1 billion available for career education programs,
SBA sent out 500 million availability for small-business opportunities,USMCA, China trade negotiations,Japan,Europe trade deals
coming,steel and aluminum jobs returning due to tariffs, tried to get infrastructure but the Dems voted unanimously NO to 1% cut
across the board ( If I gave you $1000, would you give me $10 back if it was for the good of all?- hell yea - as sholes)first-ever
indictments against Chinese national for fentanyl trafficking. ENUF YET - What he didn't do is drop off 150 billion to the number one
terrorist in the world and believe they going to spend any on more terrorism- He financed terrorism with our money) He takes out Osama
and is praised (which he should) Trump takes out #2 and gets basted. The DNC is the greatest Hypocritical National Party. Now ur turn
or you just want to fact check the above with no response
Well stated 'Snorkel. Nothing like ""Facts"" to dispel the notion that Trump hasn't done anything to help this country. Quite the opposite. This guy is fighting for America and its ecomony more than any other president in my lifetime. He sure is making the effort to make sure others are no longer taking advantage of America (NATO, NAFTA, China, ... )
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Wall - challenge accepted - but- you can't use mine to give your answer. I can give you 50 but ill stick with 5-(1st - I can't control
the squibb that comes out - words all over the place- structure wise) 1 -Secured 73.1 billion in funding for VA to provide quality
medical care for our vets and revolutionizing the VA healthcare system. 2) The unemployment rate has only fell below 4% 5 times
since 1970 - It has been below 4% 8 times this year.3) has got NATO countries to fess up their share - Is that an advantage to all
us taxpayers?.4) Kept us out of Nafta number 2 - the TPP. 5)American coal exports increased by 60% in 2017. 6)Deregulation ,
although we still need some (But not a zillion) making us energy independent for first time ever (out the window if Dems elected.
7 thru ? - Best economy ever, stock market records,annual GDP rates of 3.4,5 million job created,jobless claims at 50-year low,
13 million off food stamps, 284,000 manufacturing jobs most since 1997. made 1 billion available for career education programs,
SBA sent out 500 million availability for small-business opportunities,USMCA, China trade negotiations,Japan,Europe trade deals
coming,steel and aluminum jobs returning due to tariffs, tried to get infrastructure but the Dems voted unanimously NO to 1% cut
across the board ( If I gave you $1000, would you give me $10 back if it was for the good of all?- hell yea - as sholes)first-ever
indictments against Chinese national for fentanyl trafficking. ENUF YET - What he didn't do is drop off 150 billion to the number one
terrorist in the world and believe they going to spend any on more terrorism- He financed terrorism with our money) He takes out Osama
and is praised (which he should) Trump takes out #2 and gets basted. The DNC is the greatest Hypocritical National Party. Now ur turn
or you just want to fact check the above with no response
Well stated 'Snorkel. Nothing like ""Facts"" to dispel the notion that Trump hasn't done anything to help this country. Quite the opposite. This guy is fighting for America and its ecomony more than any other president in my lifetime. He sure is making the effort to make sure others are no longer taking advantage of America (NATO, NAFTA, China, ... )
Hey joe - same question ill ask to all - is there anything you agree with that Trump has done right for our country? Can you give me 5? Try to be respectful to peeps that simply disagree with you. Isn't disagreeing an American virtue? Look forward to a response or rant, whichever u choose. [/Quote lets face it he's done mostly bad things . He’s more personally corrupt than Chester Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that loser revolving door personal in he White House like the lingering smell of reheated Big Macs and a paycheck . This is a man that has promised everything and delivered to the top 2% ..Don't get me wrong AOC has no place in my heart and will be nothing more than a chronic beefier for as long as she last but ...Trump is bad for this country. 5 thing no ...He’s a cheerleader with A lot of P T Barnum study in him
Jp, looks like you have mastered the art of copy and paste. Congratulations !!
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Hey joe - same question ill ask to all - is there anything you agree with that Trump has done right for our country? Can you give me 5? Try to be respectful to peeps that simply disagree with you. Isn't disagreeing an American virtue? Look forward to a response or rant, whichever u choose. [/Quote lets face it he's done mostly bad things . He’s more personally corrupt than Chester Arthur, more surrounded by criminals than Ulysses Grant, and more shamelessly duplicitous than Richard Nixon. I believe the only reason we have not seen a national catastrophe costing tens of thousands of lives is due to sheer luck and the incredible incompetence that loser revolving door personal in he White House like the lingering smell of reheated Big Macs and a paycheck . This is a man that has promised everything and delivered to the top 2% ..Don't get me wrong AOC has no place in my heart and will be nothing more than a chronic beefier for as long as she last but ...Trump is bad for this country. 5 thing no ...He’s a cheerleader with A lot of P T Barnum study in him
Jp, looks like you have mastered the art of copy and paste. Congratulations !!
I think the ultimate in hypocrisy is how the left has found a way to criticize Trump in his killing of Solamami. I don't remember the same kind of partisanship when O`Obama killed Osama bin laden. We all agreed it was good to take him out.
But w Trump ?? Hell no !! The left's hatred of Trump exceeds the safety of our Troops stationed overseas !!
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I think the ultimate in hypocrisy is how the left has found a way to criticize Trump in his killing of Solamami. I don't remember the same kind of partisanship when O`Obama killed Osama bin laden. We all agreed it was good to take him out.
But w Trump ?? Hell no !! The left's hatred of Trump exceeds the safety of our Troops stationed overseas !!
Oh I can criticize Trumps erroneous decision to take out that leader. He did not follow the proper channels to make the decision and take the action. There was no immediate or previous evidence or threat from this guy to take that action. How was he allowed to make this choice based on clear and verifiable evidence?
Please dont give me the he was going to bomb 5 embassies or that the one was attacked, there was no evidence or proof of any of the bullsh!t claims Trump tried to create to validate this decision. At least with OBL there was SOME thin and remote reasons...but even that wasnt necessary to keep the country or anyone safe.
I do not engage nor should we engage with the "Bush did this so Obama should be allowed to do that" or "Obama had OBL killed so Trump is ok to do what he wants". This validation method is partisan and pathetic and has nothing to do with the point. The LEFT isnt challenging this decision, PEOPLE are challenging the decision. I am not the LEFT I am not the RIGHT...I am a person who makes a valid question and it is my legal right as a citizen to do so. Spare this right versus left horse crap, it divides and separates us as people and as a human race. :
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Oh I can criticize Trumps erroneous decision to take out that leader. He did not follow the proper channels to make the decision and take the action. There was no immediate or previous evidence or threat from this guy to take that action. How was he allowed to make this choice based on clear and verifiable evidence?
Please dont give me the he was going to bomb 5 embassies or that the one was attacked, there was no evidence or proof of any of the bullsh!t claims Trump tried to create to validate this decision. At least with OBL there was SOME thin and remote reasons...but even that wasnt necessary to keep the country or anyone safe.
I do not engage nor should we engage with the "Bush did this so Obama should be allowed to do that" or "Obama had OBL killed so Trump is ok to do what he wants". This validation method is partisan and pathetic and has nothing to do with the point. The LEFT isnt challenging this decision, PEOPLE are challenging the decision. I am not the LEFT I am not the RIGHT...I am a person who makes a valid question and it is my legal right as a citizen to do so. Spare this right versus left horse crap, it divides and separates us as people and as a human race. :
Oh I can criticize Trumps erroneous decision to take out that leader. He did not follow the proper channels to make the decision and take the action. There was no immediate or previous evidence or threat from this guy to take that action. How was he allowed to make this choice based on clear and verifiable evidence?
Please dont give me the he was going to bomb 5 embassies or that the one was attacked, there was no evidence or proof of any of the bullsh!t claims Trump tried to create to validate this decision. At least with OBL there was SOME thin and remote reasons...but even that wasnt necessary to keep the country or anyone safe.
I do not engage nor should we engage with the "Bush did this so Obama should be allowed to do that" or "Obama had OBL killed so Trump is ok to do what he wants". This validation method is partisan and pathetic and has nothing to do with the point. The LEFT isnt challenging this decision, PEOPLE are challenging the decision. I am not the LEFT I am not the RIGHT...I am a person who makes a valid question and it is my legal right as a citizen to do so. Spare this right versus left horse crap, it divides and separates us as people and as a human race. :
Challenge accepted. Since I already brought up a good comparison to our decision against Osama bin Laden, was he planning an imminent attack against America ??? Think about that one... The point is they both had already caused enough harm to countless American lives..That should be enough. What is the garbage you spew about proper channels to make the decision ?? Gimme a break !!
In summary, I think the WH administration could've handled this one better. Regardless of the imminent threat to occur (which is difficult to prove), we could've simply focused on the harm and death he has already caused to hundreds of U.S. soldier, hundreds of coalition soldiers, Logical people can conclude that he would have likely tried to kill additional soldiers, regardless how ""imminent" it would be
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Oh I can criticize Trumps erroneous decision to take out that leader. He did not follow the proper channels to make the decision and take the action. There was no immediate or previous evidence or threat from this guy to take that action. How was he allowed to make this choice based on clear and verifiable evidence?
Please dont give me the he was going to bomb 5 embassies or that the one was attacked, there was no evidence or proof of any of the bullsh!t claims Trump tried to create to validate this decision. At least with OBL there was SOME thin and remote reasons...but even that wasnt necessary to keep the country or anyone safe.
I do not engage nor should we engage with the "Bush did this so Obama should be allowed to do that" or "Obama had OBL killed so Trump is ok to do what he wants". This validation method is partisan and pathetic and has nothing to do with the point. The LEFT isnt challenging this decision, PEOPLE are challenging the decision. I am not the LEFT I am not the RIGHT...I am a person who makes a valid question and it is my legal right as a citizen to do so. Spare this right versus left horse crap, it divides and separates us as people and as a human race. :
Challenge accepted. Since I already brought up a good comparison to our decision against Osama bin Laden, was he planning an imminent attack against America ??? Think about that one... The point is they both had already caused enough harm to countless American lives..That should be enough. What is the garbage you spew about proper channels to make the decision ?? Gimme a break !!
In summary, I think the WH administration could've handled this one better. Regardless of the imminent threat to occur (which is difficult to prove), we could've simply focused on the harm and death he has already caused to hundreds of U.S. soldier, hundreds of coalition soldiers, Logical people can conclude that he would have likely tried to kill additional soldiers, regardless how ""imminent" it would be
No there are channels to go through in making most military decisions...
I said in my reply that OBL had some very thin reasonings, not a super solid decision either and that not everything is Obama vs Trump or Obama vs Bush or DEM vs Repub, you seem unable to get past this obstacle to have intelligent unbiased conversation.
What was the PROVABLE reasons Trump decided to do this and why this guy exactly? What was the imminent direct threat to our country that warranted his death? There are many worse threats who are more serious than this guy...and one of them is a pal of Trumps, go figure. North Korea is much more of a threat to this country and our allies than a general in the Iran military...but when has Trump ever stopped sucking up to him and taken action? I am unable to find a clear, verifiable and direct reason for this decision and it has nothing to do with my political opinions in general...and if you are a good boy who will follow the GOP trail no matter where it goes, well thats your choice. It is not my way of thinking or replying and I think most of your group here fails miserably at this concept.
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No there are channels to go through in making most military decisions...
I said in my reply that OBL had some very thin reasonings, not a super solid decision either and that not everything is Obama vs Trump or Obama vs Bush or DEM vs Repub, you seem unable to get past this obstacle to have intelligent unbiased conversation.
What was the PROVABLE reasons Trump decided to do this and why this guy exactly? What was the imminent direct threat to our country that warranted his death? There are many worse threats who are more serious than this guy...and one of them is a pal of Trumps, go figure. North Korea is much more of a threat to this country and our allies than a general in the Iran military...but when has Trump ever stopped sucking up to him and taken action? I am unable to find a clear, verifiable and direct reason for this decision and it has nothing to do with my political opinions in general...and if you are a good boy who will follow the GOP trail no matter where it goes, well thats your choice. It is not my way of thinking or replying and I think most of your group here fails miserably at this concept.
1) Snorkel May have been home schooled or 2) He was snoozing for that history class or 3) the Dumbing of America was a huge success ! Yes he was a GOP President who luckily died of Kidney failure before he do more harm! If only lightning would strike twice! Lmao sorry
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Snorkel...Chester Arthur was our 21st president.
Way before our time brother..
1) Snorkel May have been home schooled or 2) He was snoozing for that history class or 3) the Dumbing of America was a huge success ! Yes he was a GOP President who luckily died of Kidney failure before he do more harm! If only lightning would strike twice! Lmao sorry
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